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Wheels Of Steel 11-27-12 06:13 PM

Security: How much is too much?
 
What's the minimum for a touring setup? Skewers and seatpost bolt? Headset? Options abound.

http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/pitlock.asp

Steve0000 11-27-12 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by Wheels Of Steel (Post 14990937)
What's the minimum for a touring setup? Skewers and seatpost bolt? Headset? Options abound.

http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/pitlock.asp

Good grief. Such security measures have never entered my thinking. I use a cable lock and try to lock it in full view of people or close to my tent at night.

TiBikeGuy 11-27-12 07:55 PM

It always happens, when you are in the middle of nowhere, or when it is late at night and you need to remove the wheels, but you can't find the tool to open it. Either you did not bring it along or you forgot where you left it after you last used it.

VT_Speed_TR 11-27-12 07:57 PM

A carry a ultra light weight cable lock. Most likely someone could pull it apart with their hands and a little determined effort. Its sole purpose is to stop someone from hopping on and riding off. The real thiefs have the tools and knowledge to get past any lock.

TiBikeGuy 11-27-12 08:06 PM

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...lockedbike.jpg

Too much security ... when the locks costs more than the bike itself

saddlesores 11-28-12 12:32 AM

just make it less convenient to walk off with.

bolt-on wheels w/standard hex bolts instead of QR. [my co-worker had a QR stolen
last month. he never noticed, until i asked him what's wrong with this picture.]

seatpost clamp with hex bolt. how often do you need to change the height anyway?

minimize removable stuff (take with when away) like computers and headlights and
clip-on pumps.

carry a decent cable lock for when you want to hike around angkor wat.





of course, if you're really paranoid, you could always weld shut your chain's
quick-release link..........:twitchy:

xilios 11-28-12 01:30 AM

We carry two 1.8meter medium weight cable locks just to make the thief work a bit for the bikes. At night we put the bikes next to the tent and I hook up a 120db purse alarm from the vastibule to a spoke with fishing line in case they try to carry off both bikes in the middle of the night. It's cheap and works great, I've woken up the camping a couple of mornings when I forgot about it:D
Nowdays thieves use lightweight and portable battery powered cutting tools to go through just about any hardened steel lock, chain or cable on the market.

http://www.bike-journeys.com/2008%20...tos/w2d1p1.jpg

djyak 11-28-12 02:47 AM


Originally Posted by saddlesores (Post 14991979)
just make it less convenient to walk off with.

bolt-on wheels w/standard hex bolts instead of QR. [my co-worker had a QR stolen
last month. he never noticed, until i asked him what's wrong with this picture.]

seatpost clamp with hex bolt. how often do you need to change the height anyway?

minimize removable stuff (take with when away) like computers and headlights and
clip-on pumps.

carry a decent cable lock for when you want to hike around angkor wat.





of course, if you're really paranoid, you could always weld shut your chain's
quick-release link..........:twitchy:

That about covers things for me. Here in Stuttgart, Germany, if you park the bike and take the train, most things that can come off the bike come with me. As for the rest of the bike, I use two different types of locks just to discourage someone. I've never had problems while on tours, just in the city.

indyfabz 11-28-12 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by Steve0000 (Post 14991262)
Good grief. Such security measures have never entered my thinking. I use a cable lock and try to lock it in full view of people or close to my tent at night.

+1. Sometimes I don't lock my bike at all. It all depends on the situation.

Thulsadoom 11-28-12 10:40 AM

Paint your bike flat black. Remove all useless stickers and shiny stuff. A few days on the road and your stuff will be mud streaked and road grimy. No one wants to steal that.

fietsbob 11-28-12 11:40 AM

Using parts at hardware stores I made a 10' long thin cable to attach bike to trees and picnic tables.
loops go over the other lock thru the frame and wheel.

B. Carfree 11-28-12 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by xilios (Post 14992065)
We carry two 1.8meter medium weight cable locks just to make the thief work a bit for the bikes. At night we put the bikes next to the tent and I hook up a 120db purse alarm from the vastibule to a spoke with fishing line in case they try to carry off both bikes in the middle of the night. It's cheap and works great, I've woken up the camping a couple of mornings when I forgot about it:D
Nowdays thieves use lightweight and portable battery powered cutting tools to go through just about any hardened steel lock, chain or cable on the market.

http://www.bike-journeys.com/2008%20...tos/w2d1p1.jpg

If I did that I would never get a night's sleep in our coastline campgrounds. The raccoons are always playing with my bike, mostly because I store my candy in a top tube bag during the day and the scent lingers.

fietsbob 11-28-12 02:52 PM

don't visit Bear country, then.

andrewclaus 11-29-12 06:54 AM

In addition to the cheesy five dollar ultralight combination cable lock, I carry a velcro strap to lock down a brake lever. This makes a decent sort of kickstand, preventing the bike from rolling off your support, and will seriously slow down a thief on foot. I know because I've forgotten to take it off several times. Good idea above about black paint over everything. Some liberally applied scratches work, too. When I tour, people try to give me stuff, not take it away from me.

bikenh 11-29-12 02:45 PM

On my bike trip to the midwest this summer I took a standard chain lock with me...I never used it once. Then again I never lock my bike up around home either. If they want to steal it they will steal no matter how well you have it locked up. Heck I've already had someone at the local Wal-Mart go through my daypack I had laying by my bike one day when I went into Wal-Mart. It had a laptop computer in the pack...it was still in the pack when I got back out to the bike. They went through everything and took nothing. They wanted the money I had with me in my pocket, not the stuff I had in my pack or on my bike...heck they didn't even want the bike.

Aushiker 11-30-12 07:13 AM

I use a Pitlock as mentioned as I have a SON 28 dynamo ... not keen on loosing my front wheel :)

I also have on my Surly Long Haul Trucker a Abus Amparo 4850 CL Framelock. I find it very handy. I can quickly lock the bike outside a shop ... just makes it harder to walk off with it and in conjunction with a cable it becomes my overnight security system. Worked so far, but it is a bit heavy.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-6...0/IMG_3139.JPG

Andrew


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