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Old 02-16-13, 03:44 PM
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Hike & Bike campsite Thread/Wiki/Database?

I've noticed when reading some trip journals that many people miss nearby bargain rates at campgrounds, or even pay full price when the campground attendant fails to let them know about available HB sites. I know of the sites around San Diego County, and many of the ones in the Sierra, but have not found any one source to pool all of our knowledge. Maybe we can start a thread covering them, and then a web page could scrape the thread and set up a Maps page (don't know how to do this myself...) I have a few examples below, and also could do entries for California sites such as

Castle Crags
Burney Falls
Donner Memorial
DL Bliss
Calaveras Big Trees
Tuolumne Meadows
Yosemite Valley
Sliverwood Lake
Idyllwild Campground
Palomar Mountain
Lake Perris
Lake Morena
Palm Cyn, Anza Borrego State Park

Name: San Elijo State Beach
Phone: (760) 753-5091
Website: https://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=662
Location: Central coastal San Diego County, California, USA
Lat/Long: 33 deg. 01' 15" N, 117 deg. 17' 02" W
Location Notes: On the coast highway roughly 30 km (20 mi) N of San Diego.
Elevation: about 25 m (80 ft)
Cost per night: $6 (2012)
Stay longer than one night?: Not officially, maybe during off season...
Open: year-round
Water: Spigots throughout camp, tap water is fairly nasty tasting, though. Purified
water machines across highway.
Facilities: Lighted flush toilets with sinks and pay showers close by. Small store in camp.
Very nice outdoor taco shop in campground. Picnic table & fire ring in site.
Electrical outlets: In restrooms with showers.
Wifi: free at Bull Taco shop, no outlets, though. Starbucks across highway.
Bike shops: several nearby along coast hwy.
Setting: Suburban beach. Some lawn in part of site, rest is concrete-like bare dirt.
Little shade.
Occupancy Limit: 8
Check-in: after 4 pm, out by 9 am. Strictly enforced.
Hammock-friendly: No.
Supplies: Some in camp store, upscale market across hwy. Taco shop is excellent alternative
to cooking, though!
Stove fuel availabilty: Stores may have propane, better bring your own alcohol.
Food lockers: No
Varmints: Squirrels and crows will raid any visible goodies by day.
Humans may steal anything not bolted down.
Activities: Typical SoCal beach activities.
Notes: The last surviving beach HB site in San Diego County.
Located on bluff above beach. Very busy during summer. Site will get noise
from nearby highway and trains. Campround may move HB site at random, fall 2012
was in site 128, next to a very noisy children's Surf Camp.

Name: Green Valley Falls Campground, Cuyamaca Rancho State Park (Arroyo Seco Day Use Area)
Phone: (760) 765-3020
Website: https://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=667
Location: central San Diego County, California, USA
Lat/Long: 32 deg. 54' 24" N, 116 deg. 35' W
Location Notes: In the Peninsular Mountain ranges, about 60 km (40 mi) east of San Diego,
on State Hwy 79.
Elevation: 1200 m (3950 feet)
Cost per night: $5 (2012)
Stay longer than one night?: Probably, but see notes.
Open: Currently summer only.
Water: Spigots in the day use (hike and bike area) Excellent mountain spring water.
Facilities: Lighted flush toilets with sinks in day use area. Coin operated hot showers a short
walk away in equestrian loop. Avoid the crummy modern low-flow showers in the rest of the camp.
Ice and wood available (NO wood gathering) Many non-movable picnic tables.
Wifi: AT&T (pay) at campground entrance.
Bike Shops: none nearby, closest are N in Julian and SW in Alpine.
Electrical outlets: In restrooms with showers.
Setting: Rural. Open woodland with large oak and pine trees. Ground gently slopes
with scattered flat spots. Covered with leaf duff for the most part.
Occupancy Limit: You could probably put fifty tents here...
Hammock-friendly: Park regulations prohibit putting anything on vegetation that
would harm it. You could argue that straps won't harm the bark,
or try rigging a hammock between two tables, or a signpost, or
set up out of sight in the brushy hill behind the picnic area.
Supplies: 8 km (5 mi) S. in Descano, down a 160 m (500 ft) hill: General Store (Perkin's corner).
13 km (8 mi) very hilly miles N. at Cuyamaca Lake (limited store)
Stove fuel availabilty: Stores may have propane, better bring your own alcohol.
Food lockers: No
Varmints: Squirrels, jays, crows, and ravens will raid any visible goodies by day.
Possibly raccoons by night. Lots of small annoying flies in warmer weather.
Activities: Hiking, wading, and basking at falls.
Notes: This camp is near to both the Southern Tier and an alternative Sierra-Cascades ACA route. A very nice campground. Nearest car campers are several hundred meters away. The falls, maybe 5 minutes walk away, have the nearby stream cascade over giant polished granite boulders. This valley location collects cool air on clear nights and can be much colder than the nearby Paso Picacho site, which is 300 meters higher. You are asked not to set up your tent in the picnic area until dusk, and have it down before 9 AM. You can hang around earlier, just not have the tent up. If you wrangle a stay of more than one day, you'll still need to take the tent down during the day.


Name: Paso Picacho Campground, Cuyamaca Rancho State Park (Inside the day use loop)
Phone: (760) 765-3020
Website: Website: https://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=667
Location: central San Diego County, California, USA
Lat/Long: 32 deg. 57' 40" N, 116 deg. 34' 50" W
Location Notes: In the Peninsular Mountain ranges, about 60 km (40 mi) east of San Diego,
on State Hwy 79.
Elevation: 1500 m (4950 feet)
Cost per night: $5 (2012)
Stay longer than one night?: Probably, but see notes.
Open: Currently year-round.
Water: Spigots in camp.
Facilities: Flush toilets with sinks in day use area which are lit at night (loop ones may be closed).
Coin operated hot showers a short walk away in main campground. Many non-movable picnic tables.
No wood gathering, wood and ice available in camp.
Electrical outlets: In restrooms with showers.
Wifi: AT&T (pay) at campground entrance.
Bike Shops: none nearby, closest are N in Julian and SW in Alpine.
Setting: Rural. Open woodland with large pine trees and some boulders. Gently sloping site
with scattered flat spots. Covered with leaf duff for the most part.
Occupancy Limit: You could probably put fifty tents here...
Hammock-friendly: Park regulations prohibit putting anything on vegetation that
would harm it. You could argue that straps won't harm the bark,
or try rigging a hammock between two tables, or a signpost, or
set up out of sight in the brushy, bouldery hummock inside the loop.
Supplies: 16 km (10 mi) S. in Descano, down a 450 m (1500 ft) hill: General Store (Perkin's corner).
5 km (2.5 mi) miles N. at Cuyamaca Lake (limited store and restaurant)
Stove fuel availabilty: Stores may have gas canisters, better bring your own alcohol.
Food lockers: No
Varmints: Squirrels, jays, crows, and ravens will raid any visible goodies by day.
Possibly raccoons by night. Lots of small annoying flies in warmer weather.
Activities: Hiking, mountain biking, fishing at nearby lake (no swimming allowed).
Notes: A very nice campground. Nearest car campers are hundreds of meters away. There's a scenic trail to the top of Stonewall Peak which starts at the camp entrance and climbs 1000' in 2 miles. This saddle-top campground drains cool air away clear nights and can be much warmer than the nearby Green Valley falls site, which is 300 meters lower. You are asked not to set up your tent in the picnic area until dusk, and have it down before 9 AM. You can hang around earlier, just not have the tent up. If you wrangle a stay of more than one day, you'll still need to take the tent down during the day.

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Now that Oswald West SP is closed to all camping, I believe that every state park on the Oregon Coast with camping has hiker/biker sites.
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For California State Parks you can go to their website at:
https://www.parks.ca.gov/parkindex/

Choose to sort by Activity/Facility and then check the box next to Hike or Bike Campsites under overnight facilities.

Currently that gives the following parks:
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[TR="bgcolor: #E0E0E0"]
[TD]Angel Island State Park[/TD]
[TD]San Francisco Bay Area[/TD]
[TD]Marin[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Austin Creek State Recreation Area[/TD]
[TD]North Coast[/TD]
[TD]Sonoma[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #E0E0E0"]
[TD]Benbow Lake State Recreation Area[/TD]
[TD]North Coast[/TD]
[TD]Humboldt[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Big Basin Redwoods State Park[/TD]
[TD]San Francisco Bay Area[/TD]
[TD]Santa Cruz[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #E0E0E0"]
[TD]Bothe-Napa Valley State Park[/TD]
[TD]North Coast[/TD]
[TD]Napa[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Brannan Island State Recreation Area[/TD]
[TD]Central Valley[/TD]
[TD]Sacramento[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #E0E0E0"]
[TD]Carpinteria State Beach[/TD]
[TD]Central Coast[/TD]
[TD]Santa Barbara[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Castle Crags State Park[/TD]
[TD]Shasta Cascade[/TD]
[TD]Shasta[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #E0E0E0"]
[TD]Castle Rock State Park[/TD]
[TD]San Francisco Bay Area[/TD]
[TD]Santa Cruz[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Caswell Memorial State Park[/TD]
[TD]Central Valley[/TD]
[TD]San Joaquin[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #E0E0E0"]
[TD]China Camp State Park[/TD]
[TD]San Francisco Bay Area[/TD]
[TD]Marin[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Clear Lake State Park[/TD]
[TD]North Coast[/TD]
[TD]Lake[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #E0E0E0"]
[TD]Colusa-Sacramento River State Recreation Area[/TD]
[TD]Central Valley[/TD]
[TD]Colusa[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Cuyamaca Rancho State Park[/TD]
[TD]San Diego County[/TD]
[TD]San Diego[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #E0E0E0"]
[TD]D. L. Bliss State Park[/TD]
[TD]High Sierra[/TD]
[TD]El Dorado[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Del Norte Coast Redwoods State Park[/TD]
[TD]North Coast[/TD]
[TD]Del Norte[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #E0E0E0"]
[TD]Doheny State Beach[/TD]
[TD]Orange County[/TD]
[TD]Orange[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]El Capitán State Beach[/TD]
[TD]Central Coast[/TD]
[TD]Santa Barbara[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #E0E0E0"]
[TD]Grizzly Creek Redwoods State Park[/TD]
[TD]North Coast[/TD]
[TD]Humboldt[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Half Moon Bay State Beach[/TD]
[TD]San Francisco Bay Area[/TD]
[TD]San Mateo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #E0E0E0"]
[TD]Hearst San Simeon State Park[/TD]
[TD]Central Coast[/TD]
[TD]San Luis Obispo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Hendy Woods State Park[/TD]
[TD]North Coast[/TD]
[TD]Mendocino[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #E0E0E0"]
[TD]Henry Cowell Redwoods State Park[/TD]
[TD]San Francisco Bay Area[/TD]
[TD]Santa Cruz[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Henry W. Coe State Park[/TD]
[TD]Central Coast[/TD]
[TD]Santa Clara[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #E0E0E0"]
[TD]Humboldt Redwoods State Park[/TD]
[TD]North Coast[/TD]
[TD]Humboldt[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Jedediah Smith Redwoods State Park[/TD]
[TD]North Coast[/TD]
[TD]Del Norte[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #E0E0E0"]
[TD]Lake Perris State Recreation Area[/TD]
[TD]Inland Empire[/TD]
[TD]Riverside[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Leo Carrillo State Park[/TD]
[TD]Los Angeles County[/TD]
[TD]Los Angeles[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #E0E0E0"]
[TD]MacKerricher State Park[/TD]
[TD]North Coast[/TD]
[TD]Mendocino[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Manchester State Park[/TD]
[TD]North Coast[/TD]
[TD]Mendocino[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #E0E0E0"]
[TD]McGrath State Beach[/TD]
[TD]Central Coast[/TD]
[TD]Ventura[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Millerton Lake State Recreation Area[/TD]
[TD]Central Valley[/TD]
[TD]Fresno[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #E0E0E0"]
[TD]Morro Bay State Park[/TD]
[TD]Central Coast[/TD]
[TD]San Luis Obispo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Mount San Jacinto State Park[/TD]
[TD]Inland Empire[/TD]
[TD]Riverside[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #E0E0E0"]
[TD]Mount Tamalpais State Park[/TD]
[TD]San Francisco Bay Area[/TD]
[TD]Marin[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]New Brighton State Beach[/TD]
[TD]San Francisco Bay Area[/TD]
[TD]Santa Cruz[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #E0E0E0"]
[TD]Palomar Mountain State Park[/TD]
[TD]San Diego County[/TD]
[TD]San Diego[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Patrick's Point State Park[/TD]
[TD]North Coast[/TD]
[TD]Humboldt[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #E0E0E0"]
[TD]Pfeiffer Big Sur State Park[/TD]
[TD]Central Coast[/TD]
[TD]Monterey[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Point Mugu State Park[/TD]
[TD]Central Coast[/TD]
[TD]Ventura[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #E0E0E0"]
[TD]Portola Redwoods State Park[/TD]
[TD]San Francisco Bay Area[/TD]
[TD]San Mateo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Prairie Creek Redwoods State Park[/TD]
[TD]North Coast[/TD]
[TD]Humboldt[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #E0E0E0"]
[TD]Refugio State Beach[/TD]
[TD]Central Coast[/TD]
[TD]Santa Barbara[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Richardson Grove State Park[/TD]
[TD]North Coast[/TD]
[TD]Humboldt[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #E0E0E0"]
[TD]Russian Gulch State Park[/TD]
[TD]North Coast[/TD]
[TD]Mendocino[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Salt Point State Park[/TD]
[TD]North Coast[/TD]
[TD]Sonoma[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #E0E0E0"]
[TD]Salton Sea State Recreation Area[/TD]
[TD]Deserts[/TD]
[TD]Riverside[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Samuel P. Taylor State Park[/TD]
[TD]San Francisco Bay Area[/TD]
[TD]Marin[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #E0E0E0"]
[TD]San Elijo State Beach[/TD]
[TD]San Diego County[/TD]
[TD]San Diego[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Silverwood Lake State Recreation Area[/TD]
[TD]Inland Empire[/TD]
[TD]San Bernardino[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #E0E0E0"]
[TD]Sinkyone Wilderness State Park[/TD]
[TD]North Coast[/TD]
[TD]Mendocino[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Sonoma Coast State Park[/TD]
[TD]North Coast[/TD]
[TD]Sonoma[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #E0E0E0"]
[TD]Standish-Hickey State Recreation Area[/TD]
[TD]North Coast[/TD]
[TD]Mendocino[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Sunset State Beach[/TD]
[TD]San Francisco Bay Area[/TD]
[TD]Santa Cruz[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #E0E0E0"]
[TD]Topanga State Park[/TD]
[TD]Los Angeles County[/TD]
[TD]Los Angeles[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Turlock Lake State Recreation Area[/TD]
[TD]Central Valley[/TD]
[TD]Stanislaus[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #E0E0E0"]
[TD]Van Damme State Park[/TD]
[TD]North Coast[/TD]
[TD]Mendocino[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
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Yes, but I'd like to rate them, too. Doheny State Beach is miserable compared to many other sites, for example, and where's Anza-Borrego, Calaveras Big Trees, and the Idyllwild HB sites? (Just a few that I know of offhand) There are also some county-run, National Park Service, Forest Service, and private campgrounds that give sizable discounts to cyclists, but it's very hard to find any information about that on the web, so it would be great to have some first-hand accounts.

Cyclists can stay for one night at the backpacker's camp at North Pines in Yosemite Valley, and I'm sure that's noted on the ACA maps, but without those one has to hunt through many journals to find much information about that.
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This is a great idea, though keeping it up to date will require someone committed to checking out the sites every once in a while. Nothing worse than pulling up to a campground after a olng hard ride to discover they closed the hiker/biker site months before and there are no open sites to rent.

I would be happy to add a hiker/biker subcategory in the camping category at biketouringtips.com where such information could be put but that would be on an indexed campsite by campsite basis, not all on a single page(s).

Let me know if you'd be willing to do this and I'll help anyway I can.
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Originally Posted by raybo
This is a great idea, though keeping it up to date will require someone committed to checking out the sites every once in a while. Nothing worse than pulling up to a campground after a olng hard ride to discover they closed the hiker/biker site months before and there are no open sites to rent.

I would be happy to add a hiker/biker subcategory in the camping category at biketouringtips.com where such information could be put but that would be on an indexed campsite by campsite basis, not all on a single page(s).

Let me know if you'd be willing to do this and I'll help anyway I can.
Well, I'm only going to know about the campsites I have listed in my first post. I'd be happy to try and keep sites I know about up-to-date. I'd love to have the time to research first hand all the HB sites I can find all over the world, but my idea was to have a template that others that have been to a campsite can fill out, based on the examples I gave. That hopefully can keep them current

I hear you about having up-to-date information. During a blazing heat wave we had in September here in San Diego, I rode down to San Elijo State Beach from El Cajon. Temperatures were about 105 F all the way right down to the beach. Another camper there had ridden all the way that day through LA and had planned to stay at the defunct South Carlsbad HB site. The ranger there had told him that San Elijo was "only" another seven miles and asked "You've already ridden a hundred miles, what's another seven?" He was not a happy camper! (At first. After some ice-cold drinks from the in-camp taco shop, he was in a much mellower mood.)
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There is an app for both the iPhone and Android devices called Allstays Camp & Tent that has all campgrounds that allow tent camping in the US. It it's not a free app, but reasonable cost. It lists state parks, city parks, commercial parks, etc....You can also filter the maps to show where Walmarts, Bass Pro Shops, and other outfitters are located so you can find supplies while on route. Nice thing about the app is that it does not require WiFi to get the info off your phone or tablet.

Also, as far as states go, Virginia passed a law last year that states that any self supported cyclist that is on tour, must be given a spot to camp without reservations at any of the state parks with camping facilities. This should make for a reasonable assurance that if you are peddling into a Virginia State Park, you will not be turned away.

I like the idea about the database on the web site, and may be a good idea for this site. I have often thought a similar idea should be used to incorporate route options for identification purposes. Much like trying to find a campsite, there is a lot of discussion about a good route selection to a particular landmark, town or destination. With all the users on this forum, if someone in England was trying to find a route from point A to point B in the US, they could submit their request to the group and get a detailed report back from someone that is local to their area of interest with a good route, possibly good campsites or other accommodations. I would call this section of the site - "Route Scouts".

Finally, all this information would be saved for a future search in some type of database

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I have added a hiker/biker sub-category to the Camping section of biketouringtips.com . I have added the above 3 descriptions and a link to the hiker/biker table, as well. You can see them here.

Unfortunately, the information at my site is only searchable by country, state, and place (campground name, in the above case). The idea of connecting it to routes or other general location is a good one but beyond what my site is designed to do.
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I will be adding some more writeups for HB sites I've been too. I notice some more that are missing from the official list, such as Grover Hot Springs State Park near Markleeville. That's a beautiful place to stay, about three and a half miles off the Sierra-Cascade route and eight off the Western Express, plus it has hot springs!

It would be nice if other states adopted the Virginia Law. All they'd have to do it let a cyclist camp overnight in the picnic area if the regular sites are all taken. However, on the California coast, transients have abused the system to the point where most sites south of LA are shut down.
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I started to compile campsites via Google maps for myself: https://tinyurl.com/IowaCamping
Obviously it started out being an Iowa map (although not complete yet) but additional areas got added as I researched for potential tours. I really like the map layout to visualize routes and plan from it. Not friendly for collaboration though.
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I have a few more writeups:

Name: Perris Lake State Recreation Area
Phone: (951) 940-5600
Website: https://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=651
Location: Riverside County, California, USA
Lat/Long: 33 deg. 52' 22" N, 117 deg. 10' 41" W
Location Notes: In the "Inland Empire", 18 km (11 mi) SE of Riverside, CA.
Elevation: 510 m (1671 feet)
Cost per night: $4 (2012)
Stay longer than one night?: Probably...
Open: Year-round, usually very warm in summer. Closed on Tuesdays and Wednesdays until April 4, 2013.
Facilities: Dedicated site, next to horshoe pits and, unfortunately, RV dump station. Some native grass,
dead in dry season. A few trees, table, and a porta-potty at site. Flush
toilets and free hot showers a short walk away in main camp. Enormous day-use area with
grassy lawns at lakeshore would have made a much more attractive H&B site...
Electrical outlets: In restrooms with showers.
Wifi: AT&T (pay) at campground entrance.
Bike Shops: in Perris nearby
Setting: Rural. Large lake surrounded by rocky, barren hills.
Occupancy Limit: 8
Hammock-friendly: Not really. Trees, sign posts are too far apart.
Supplies: Very limited store at marina. Nearby Perris has full supplies.
Stove fuel availability: Perris.
Food lockers: No
Varmints: Didn't see any in my stay, except for ubiquitous LBAs (little black ants)
Activities: Swimming at lake, hiking. One of the few lakes in deep SoCal to allow swimming.
Notes: Very warm and windy when I've stayed here in the summer. Perhaps ideal in the cooler months.
Maybe an alternate to riding through LA on the hectic coast route is to take Metrolink to
Riverside, camp here, then head south through the Inland Empire to Temecula, Rainbow, then Hwy 76 to
Oceanside. There's an odd weather phenomenon that can occur in the hot summer monsoon flow here:
when moist upper-level, warm ,unstable air flows up from Mexico, sea breeze streams flow from LA and
also up from the south from the Temecula area, collide near Perris, causes uplift, and can
trigger severe thunderstorms, even weak tornadoes in the afternoons. The rest of the summer storms
in SoCal stay over mountain crests and desert regions.



Name: Silverwood Lake State Recreation Area
Phone: (760) 389-2281
Website: https://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=650
Location: Cajon Pass Area, California
Lat/Long: 34 deg. 17' 02" N, 117 deg. 20' 41" W
Location Notes: In a valley roughly 30 air km (20 mi) N of San Bernardino.
Elevation: 510 m (3460 feet)
Cost per night: $5 (2012)
Stay longer than one night?: probably, this site gets little use.
Open: year-round
Water: Spigots throughout camp.
Facilities: Lighted flush toilets with sinks and pay showers close by. Small store at
beach in day use area.
Picnic table & fire ring in site.
Electrical outlets: In restrooms with showers.
Wifi: AT&T near camp administration building.
Bike shops: Back S in San Bernardino, N in Hesperia.
Setting: Mountain/High Desert lake. Site is on hill about 30 m above lake.
Sand and gravel tent site surrounded by chaparral. Not much shade.
There's some separation from "normal" campers, and a paved bike path
leads down to the day use area.
Occupancy Limit: 8 per site, 2 sites.
Check-in: after 4 pm, out by 9 am.
Hammock-friendly: Maybe, but don't damage the vegetation.
Supplies: Some in limited camp store.
Stove fuel availability: Store may have propane, better bring your own alcohol.
Food lockers: No
Varmints: Squirrels, jays, and crows will raid any visible goodies by day.
Nearby brush may hide rattlesnakes.
Activities: Lake swimming, fishing, hiking, exploring bike paths around lake.
Notes: Lake has conifer forest on south side, desert brush on north side.
Located on ACA Sierra-Cascades route, and a preferred bike alternate
route over Cajon Pass. Usually very warm in summer, great for lake
recreation.

Name: Palomar Mountain State Park
Phone: (760) 389-2281
Website: https://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=637
Location: North central San Diego county, California
Lat/Long: 33 deg. 20' 33" N, 116 deg. 52' 36" W
Elevation: 1470 m (4850 feet)
Location Notes: In Doane Valley atop Palomar Mtn. 75 air km (46 mi) N of
downtown San Diego.
Cost per night: $5 (2012)
Stay longer than one night?: probably, this site gets extremely little use.
Open: closed in winter
Water: Spigots throughout camp.
Facilities: Lighted flush toilets with sinks and pay showers nearby. Small cafe
back at Palomar Junction. Picnic table & fire ring in site.
Electrical outlets: In restrooms with showers.
Wifi: AT&T near camp administration building.
Bike shops: Back S in Escondido.
Setting: Thick conifer forest. Site is on hill about 20 m above main camp.
Pine needle duff covers tent site, maybe debris all over table, too.
Occupancy Limit: 8
Check-in: after 4 pm, out by 90 am.
Hammock-friendly: Maybe, but don't damage the vegetation.
Supplies: Best to bring everything up the hill.
Stove fuel availability: Bring your own.
Food lockers: No
Varmints: Squirrels, jays, and crows will raid any visible goodies by day.
Nearby brush may hide rattlesnakes.
Activities: fishing in pond, hiking, passing out after giant climb to camp.
Notes: The observatory is not nearby, but would make a nice day ride if you
stay two nights. This campground is a detour off the Sierra-Cascades
ACA route, an "island in the sky."
It may be possible for dirt-worthy bikers to head over to
the Observatory and make their way down jeep trails to Hwy 79 on the
north side of the mountain block.

Name: Jacumba Hot Springs free camping (get permission at Jacumba Lodge)
Phone: (619) 766-9960
Website: https://thejacumbalounge.com/
Location: Far southeastern San Diego County, California,
directly on Southern Tier ACA route.
Lat/Long: 32 deg. 37' 01" N, 116 deg. 11' 25" W
Elevation: 860 m (2829 feet)
Location Notes: High desert valley, 75 air km (46 mi) N of
downtown San Diego. Can be windy and exposed.
Cost per night: Free, but spend some $ in town, please.
Stay longer than one night?: sure, they need business!
Open: all year
Water: At Lounge, Library, or park.
Facilities: Hot springs tub nearby, flush toilets at park or Jacumba Lounge.
Electrical outlets: Lounge, library when open
Wifi: Free in Lounge or nearby library.
Bike shops: Back W in Alpine, E in El Centro.
Setting: Camp free with permission in community park.
Occupancy Limit: Hundreds, probably.
Check-in: anytime
Hammock-friendly: Maybe, but don't damage the vegetation.
Supplies: Small market in town.
Stove fuel availability: Bring your own.
Food lockers: No
Varmints: Squirrels, jays, and crows will raid any visible goodies by day.
Activities: Hot spring soaking, rockhounding, hiking.
Notes: Interesting writeup by a couple of tourists that stayed here:
https://www.pinchflatfortune.com/from...ring-cyclists/


I'll have to research the San Diego County Park system, too. Apparently at least a few are back to offering discount rates to cyclists, according to pinchflatfortune.com; they had $2 sites about a decade ago, but stopped the program abruptly. Dos Picos and William Heise parks were great, and on what I consider a superior alternate to the official Southern Tier route. We also stayed at Agua Caliente Hot Springs for $2 each back in the day.
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I have entered the new listings into the archive.
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The maps page on my blog has a map of free/cheap campsites in different regions of the US. Some of it's wrong and out of date and I can't really work on it much because I'm working off an android tablet(No google maps editing), but it does mark all the hiker-biker sites down the coast. In California, you can also camp for free in a few of the backpacker primitive sites in the Redwood national forest. The rangers just stipulate that you have to walk your bike in. Endert's beach near crescent city is one of them. It's a mean trudge up the hill, but a very pretty spot.
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OK, I've written up a few more, some that I've been to in inland California:

Name: Lake Morena County Park
Phone: (619) 579-4101
Website: https://www.sdcounty.ca.gov/parks/Cam...ke_morena.html
Location: South Central San Diego County, California,
off the old 94 Southern Tier ACA route, and very near their
Sierra-Cascades route .
Lat/Long: 32 deg. 41' 08" N, 116 deg. 31' 01" W
Elevation: 920 m (3000 feet)
Location Notes: Mountain valley, 105 km (65 mi) W of downtown San Diego. Ground
may be baked hard, or there may be some grass and leaf cover. The
sites are in a far corner of the somewhat crowded campground.
Cost per night: $5 per person per night
Stay longer than one night?: Depends on demand.
Open: all year
Water: Spigots nearby.
Facilities: Flush toilets and free hot showers in camp.
Electrical outlets: Restrooms
Wifi: Unknown.
Bike shops: Back W in Alpine or San Diego, E in El Centro.
Setting: Open, flat land with some large oak trees.
Occupancy Limit: Two sites, maybe eight in each.
Check-in: anytime
Hammock-friendly: Maybe, but don't damage the vegetation.
Supplies: Small market in Lake Morena Village right next to camp.
Stove fuel availability: Bring your own.
Food lockers: No
Varmints: Squirrels, jays, and crows will raid any visible goodies by day.
Park also has racoons at night.
Activities: Fishing, hiking.
Notes: The Pacific Crest trail passes through the campground, and the sites,
while allowing cyclists, were put in for those backpackers. Very few
cyclists pass this way, but it's fun to swap tales with the hikers.


Name: Palm Canyon Campground, Anza Borrego State Park
Phone: (760) 767-5311
Website: https://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=638
Location: Northeastern San Diego County, California,
on an alternative to the ACA Southern Tier route.
Lat/Long: 33 deg. 16' 05" N, 116 deg. 24' 54" W
Elevation: 250 m (820 feet)
Location Notes: Desert lowland, 160 road km (100 mi) NE of downtown San Diego. Ground
consists of desert sand/gravel. Other standard tent sites nearby. Jagged
rocky mountains surround the site.
Cost per night: $8 per person per night
Stay longer than one night?: Very likely.
Open: all year
Water: Spigots nearby.
Facilities: Flush toilets and pay hot showers in camp.
Electrical outlets: Restrooms. I'll let what's unusual about them come as a
surprise.
Wifi: AT&T near entrance. Also at public library: 571 Palm Cyn Dr, Borrego Springs
(619) 424-0475
Bike shops: Dan's Hike And Bike 648 Palm Canyon Dr , Borrego Springs
(619) 767-3872
Setting: Open, flat land. Three tables with shade ramada over them.
Occupancy Limit: Two sites, maybe eight in each.
Check-in: after 2 PM
Hammock-friendly: Maybe rig one up in the ramada.
Supplies: Markets in Borrego Springs.
Stove fuel availability: Maybe at Dan's. Alcohol at hardware store in town.
Food lockers: No
Varmints: Not many, maybe ravens by day, coyotes at night.
Activities: hiking.
Notes: Open all year, but summer is not recommended for good reason.


Name: Castle Crags State Park
Phone: (530) 235-2684
Website: https://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=454
Location: Shasta County, North Central California, about 85 road km (55 mi)
N of Redding, 30 km (20 mi) S of Mount Shasta City
Lat/Long: 41 deg. 09' 11" N, 122 deg. 18' 43" W
Elevation: 660 m (2170 feet)
Location Notes: Major resupply point for PCT hikers, so many may be
encountered here.
Just a few flat spots suitable for tents.
Cost per night: $5 per person per night
Stay longer than one night?: Depends on demand.
Open: all year
Water: Spigots nearby, excellent pure mountain water.
Facilities: Flush toilets and pay hot showers in camp.
Electrical outlets: Restrooms.
Wifi: AT&T near entrance.
Bike shops: Dunsmuir: The Third Wheel, 5824 Dunsmuir Ave
Several in Redding
Setting: Dense evergreen forest, set on a slope above canyon bottom.
Occupancy Limit: Unknown, may not be a limit, but space is limited.
Check-in: after 2 PM
Hammock-friendly: Yes, depending on zeal of rangers.
Supplies: Small market just outside of campground, or N in Dunsmuir.
Stove fuel availability: Some canisters at market. Alcohol in Dunsmuir
or Redding.
Food lockers: Yes, bear proof. Lots of stuff left by hikers, usually
firewood, too.
Varmints: Squirrels, birds, racoons. Does not seem to have bear issues.
Activities: hiking, relaxing in pools in Castle Creek, fishing.
Notes: Open all year, but severe winter storms will close the park. Polished
granite domes and spires rise 1800 m (6000 ft) above the campground.
Requires some riding on I5 shoulders to get here.
Far enough way from Interstate to reduce it to a background rumble.


Name: McArthur-Burney Falls Memorial State Park
Phone: (530) 335-2777
Website: https://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=455
Location: Shasta County, North Central California, about 80 air km (48 mi)
NE of Redding, 30 km (20 mi) S of Mount Shasta City.
On Hwy 89, directly on ACA Sierra-Cascades route.
Lat/Long: 41 deg. 01' 03" N, 121 deg. 38' 42" W
Elevation: 900 m (3000 feet)
Location Notes: Major resupply point for PCT hikers, so many may be
encountered here. Dedicated site several hundred meters along
a dusty trail away from camp. Trail has frequent foot and
bike traffic during the day.
Cost per night: $5 per person per night
Stay longer than one night?: Depends on demand.
Open: all year
Water: Spigots in main camp, several hundred meters away.
Facilities: Flush toilets and pay hot showers in main camp.
Electrical outlets: Restrooms.
Wifi: AT&T near entrance.
Bike shops: Possibly in Burney
Setting: Open spindly evergreen forest, set on a flat above the waterfall gorge.
Occupancy Limit: Unknown, may not be a limit.
Check-in: after 4 PM
Hammock-friendly: Yes, depending on zeal of rangers.
Supplies: Small market/snack bar in campground, otherwise in Burney..
Stove fuel availability: Burney.
Food lockers: Yes, bear proof. Lots of stuff left by PCT hikers, usually
firewood, too.
Varmints: Squirrels, birds, racoons. Does not seem to have major bear issues.
Activities: hiking, swimming in Lake Britton, fishing.
Notes: The falls are right in the campground, and are fascinating. Also
the water in the falls is not much above freezing year round. A beach
on Lake Britton, with much warmer water, is about 1 km from the
campsite.


Name: Donner Memorial State Park
Phone: (530) 335-2777
Website: https://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=503
Location: Just E of Truckee, Northern California.
About 1.5 km (one mi.) E of Hwy 89, 160 km (100 mi) E of Sacramento,
on ACA Sierra-Cascades route.
Lat/Long: 39 deg. 19' 14" N, 120 deg. 13' 55" W
Elevation: 1820 m (6000 ft)
Location Notes: Two dedicated sites in the middle of a standard campground.
Lots of room for small tents, near (but not too near) restrooms
with showers. Large pine trees provide shade. Donner Creek
runs very close to sites, and the lake is a short walk away in
this mountain valley.
Cost per night: $7 per person per night (2012)
Stay longer than one night?: Depends on demand.
Open: warm season
Water: Spigots nearby.
Facilities: Flush toilets and pay hot showers in main camp.
Electrical outlets: Restrooms.
Wifi: AT&T near entrance. Coffee shops in Truckee.
Bike shops: Truckee
Setting: Campground is on terminal moraine that dams Donner Lake.
Lots of boulders, trees.
Occupancy Limit: Probably 16, never seen more than three here.
Check-in: after 4 PM
Hammock-friendly: Yes, depending on zeal of rangers.
Supplies: Supermarkets, sporting goods, etc, in Truckee.
Stove fuel availability: Truckee.
Food lockers: Yes, bear proof.
Varmints: Squirrels, birds, racoons. Maybe bears.
Activities: hiking, swimming in Donner Lake, fishing.
Notes: Very nice sites. The museum about the Donner tragedy can be depressing.
Truckee's a fun little town, though.
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I've added these to the archive.

Steve: It would be a lot easier if you entered these directly into the archive yourself. No one will see these once this thread gets buried in the nether regions of bikeforums.net and I have to cut and paste them into my site. It seems like a lot of extra work to me.
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I've added these to the archive.

Steve: It would be a lot easier if you entered these directly into the archive yourself. No one will see these once this thread gets buried in the nether regions of bikeforums.net and I have to cut and paste them into my site. It seems like a lot of extra work to me.
Yes, that seems like a lot better idea. Will do so.

I wonder what happened to this guy at Leo Carillo? Apparently the ranger attempted to charge him $45 for a HB site. I wonder if it was full up or closed, and he was just offered a regular site.

https://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/p...id=318417&v=1S
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There are lots of bears at Castle Crags and McAuthur-Burney

Just want to mention that Castle Crags has lots of black bears so be careful with food there. McAuthur-Burney also but probably not as many. I live in the city of Mount Shasta and know from personal experience that bears walk through the city every night. I have seen bears crossing the highway by Castle Crags. They are typically not aggressive to people but will try to get any smelly food you have.

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Name: Castle Crags State Park
Phone: (530) 235-2684
Website: Castle Crags SP
Location: Shasta County, North Central California, about 85 road km (55 mi)
N of Redding, 30 km (20 mi) S of Mount Shasta City
Lat/Long: 41 deg. 09' 11" N, 122 deg. 18' 43" W
Elevation: 660 m (2170 feet)
Location Notes: Major resupply point for PCT hikers, so many may be
encountered here.
Just a few flat spots suitable for tents.
Cost per night: $5 per person per night
Stay longer than one night?: Depends on demand.
Open: all year
Water: Spigots nearby, excellent pure mountain water.
Facilities: Flush toilets and pay hot showers in camp.
Electrical outlets: Restrooms.
Wifi: AT&T near entrance.
Bike shops: Dunsmuir: The Third Wheel, 5824 Dunsmuir Ave
Several in Redding
Setting: Dense evergreen forest, set on a slope above canyon bottom.
Occupancy Limit: Unknown, may not be a limit, but space is limited.
Check-in: after 2 PM
Hammock-friendly: Yes, depending on zeal of rangers.
Supplies: Small market just outside of campground, or N in Dunsmuir.
Stove fuel availability: Some canisters at market. Alcohol in Dunsmuir
or Redding.
Food lockers: Yes, bear proof. Lots of stuff left by hikers, usually
firewood, too.
Varmints: Squirrels, birds, racoons. Does not seem to have bear issues.
Activities: hiking, relaxing in pools in Castle Creek, fishing.
Notes: Open all year, but severe winter storms will close the park. Polished
granite domes and spires rise 1800 m (6000 ft) above the campground.
Requires some riding on I5 shoulders to get here.
Far enough way from Interstate to reduce it to a background rumble.


Name: McArthur-Burney Falls Memorial State Park
Phone: (530) 335-2777
Website: McArthur-Burney Falls Memorial SP
Location: Shasta County, North Central California, about 80 air km (48 mi)
NE of Redding, 30 km (20 mi) S of Mount Shasta City.
On Hwy 89, directly on ACA Sierra-Cascades route.
Lat/Long: 41 deg. 01' 03" N, 121 deg. 38' 42" W
Elevation: 900 m (3000 feet)
Location Notes: Major resupply point for PCT hikers, so many may be
encountered here. Dedicated site several hundred meters along
a dusty trail away from camp. Trail has frequent foot and
bike traffic during the day.
Cost per night: $5 per person per night
Stay longer than one night?: Depends on demand.
Open: all year
Water: Spigots in main camp, several hundred meters away.
Facilities: Flush toilets and pay hot showers in main camp.
Electrical outlets: Restrooms.
Wifi: AT&T near entrance.
Bike shops: Possibly in Burney
Setting: Open spindly evergreen forest, set on a flat above the waterfall gorge.
Occupancy Limit: Unknown, may not be a limit.
Check-in: after 4 PM
Hammock-friendly: Yes, depending on zeal of rangers.
Supplies: Small market/snack bar in campground, otherwise in Burney..
Stove fuel availability: Burney.
Food lockers: Yes, bear proof. Lots of stuff left by PCT hikers, usually
firewood, too.
Varmints: Squirrels, birds, racoons. Does not seem to have major bear issues.
Activities: hiking, swimming in Lake Britton, fishing.
Notes: The falls are right in the campground, and are fascinating. Also
the water in the falls is not much above freezing year round. A beach
on Lake Britton, with much warmer water, is about 1 km from the
campsite.

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