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Old 02-23-13, 08:46 AM
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What are you running for wheelsets?

I am thinking of buying a new set of wheels for the touring bike.What is everyone running on their touring bikes for medium to heavy touring? I am looking at these.... http://www.dtswiss.com/Components/Rims-Road/TK-540-disc . I was thinking I would use XT Hub like I saw when drooling over a Lynsky Backroads bike.
Here they are built up http://www.lynskeyperformance.com/st...s/touring.html . I can buy these local so no hassle with the shipping costs.

IMO they look like a good set of wheels.
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TK540 is OK, but expensive. I built my last wheelset for less than the cost of 2 TK540 rims - XT/WS SG/Alex TD17. $500 from Lynskey is too much.
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Konasutra, With the advent of 29ers there are more and more wheels that are tour worthy, those would be fine, IMHO. They're about a mm wider than my CR18s, which if you're going to use a +35 mm tire size would be better.

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This weekend when I can find some time, I've got a pair of Mavic A719 rims 36h, Shimano 105 hubs and some DT spokes to lace up, which I'll use on my 700c touring bike.
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On our tandem, we run Velocity Deep V rims, 520g. I don't think there's a better touring rim. They're available for about $60 online. My local wheelbuilder charges $20 plus spokes and nipples. I see one can buy an XT hubset for $135.
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700c- front 32 spoke Wheelsmith butted Mavic 719 SON hub
Rear 36 spoke DT straight Mavic 319 Shimano LX hub Handspun built wheel
Rear. 36 spoke Wheelsmith butted Synergy offset XT hub

26"- front 36 spoke Wheelsmith butted Rhynolite rim Shimano Exage hub
Front 36 spoke Wheelsmith butted SON hub
rear. 36 spoke DT straight Rhynolite rim Deore hub
Rear 32 spoke Wheelsmith butted Mavic 719 XT hub
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Old 02-23-13, 12:12 PM
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Koga WTR, 26" Mavic EX 721 32 hole , Schmidt and Rohloff hubs .


My other , derailleur rig, 700c 1st, DIY hand built set Mavic Mod 4,

many years later , sold those , and built around Bullseye Tandem Hubs, Sun Rhyno [not light]

both sets 40 hole F, 48 hole rear. ran freewheels so spare spokes were in the wheel ,
only had to replace 1 Rt R spoke on the road

the Bi Fri Tour/travel bike 32 hole CR18 Sun rims 406 size. R'off and SON hubs

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Old 02-23-13, 12:16 PM
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As the new XT, went to aluminum axles ,as I read, , better to go with a step down price to a steel axle.

Even their tandem hub can be modified to go in 135 wide frmes , they ship as 145, you change axles.

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of course the alternative is pragmatic, get a wheel even machine built , hand finished, common 36 hole get a few spare spokes

and if you hit something and damage the rim, you wont be waiting a week for a custom rebuild, in the busy season.

the parts you started out with may be abandoned* in the shop where you buy the replacement ,
another built ready to go wheel, bought there, to continue , the same day..

* or cut out of the wheel and mailed home.

most people have modest component bikes crossing the country, Im on the Coast.

LBS ships Bikes back to eastern starting places.

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Old 02-23-13, 12:55 PM
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We have 4 sets of touring wheels all set up pretty much the same way.
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Velocity Dyad 36 spoke rims, Wheelsmith double butted spokes, and set up on Ultegra, 105, LX and XT hubs.

I had a pair of wheels for a short time built with Dyad rims, DT hubs and spokes. They were nice wheels but I had trouble getting enough pressure with the DT quick release to hold the rear wheel firmly when a lot of torque was applied. That is when I had the set on the 105 hubs built up, and returned the DT's. I also prefer easily serviceable free ball hubs over DT's sealed bearings.

You might look at Universal cycle's custom wheel builder site. Even with shipping you can probably come well under the $500 mark for a set of good quality wheels. All our wheels, except the DT's, were built there.

http://www.universalcycles.com/wheelkit.php

I plugged in the components you are thinking about using. Universal Cycles do build nice wheels. Even with shipping it is about $60 cheaper.

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Old 02-23-13, 01:01 PM
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Absolutely nothing wrong with the wheelset you referenced. They may be more than some people are willing to pay, but the parts cost breakdown is close to the total cost.

Was running a set of Mavic A719's laced to older XT 7-speed hubs but am going for a change of strategy this year. Just relaced those rims to some Shimano Hone disc compatibles hubs and will be using that wheelset on a hybrid when not on the touring frame. The wheelset can be used with disc or rim brakes.

Will be lacing up a second set shortly with DT Swiss TK540's and Halo Spin Doctor hubs. Same strategy - they can be used on two different frames. The other deviation I've taken is using a Shimano Hone rear derailleur. That requires an axle swap on some hubs but is bolt on for the Hone hubs. The advantage is that the Hone will handle transport in a bike bag much better( it's pretty much bomb proof anyway), but the wheel can still be used with any hanger mount derailleur you want regardless.

Haven't tried 26" wheelsets for touring yet and would be interested in posts from anyone that has.

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Old 02-23-13, 01:22 PM
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I'm just finishing building up a LHT that I have been slowly assembling piece by piece through generous LBS discounts since December. The grand total for everything but racks, fenders & wheels has come out to about 1k$US even.

A diamondback hybrid was locked to a hydrant sign on my block for the last 5 years and basically turned to rust. one night i took the wheels off and overhauled them. they actually cleaned up pretty nice.

32h rims, nameless hubs and a 7-speed cassette with knobby 700cx35 tires... not perfect, but until it is time to do some loaded touring this is my wheelset.
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Old 02-23-13, 01:26 PM
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The stock bontrager wheel-set that comes with the trek 520, I will replace them when the brake rim gets too thin.
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Old 02-23-13, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Burton View Post

Haven't tried 26" wheelsets for touring yet and would be interested in posts from anyone that has.
My 26" touring wheelset is comprised of Mavic XC 717 32h rims, Shimano XT hubs, DT butted spokes. I wasn't happy last season when I developed a small crack at one of the eyelets after relatively few miles but hopefully that was a fluke and won't become a reoccurring theme.
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Old 02-23-13, 01:41 PM
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commuting/touring bike has Mavic A719 rims laced to Shim XT 36 hole hub with DT spokes, built and tensioned with care by hand - 20000 km on them and going strong.
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Old 02-23-13, 01:48 PM
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hand made from Thorn sun rhyno rims black.
DT spokes 36 of them
m770 xt hubs / schwalble supream tyres.
also a front dynamo shimano hub on mavic rim for night riding.

as true as the day they were put together excellent wheels.
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I just built up a set of 36h Sun Rhyno Lite 26" rims laces to Tiagra 4600 hubs with Sapim Race DB spokes and Wheelsmith brass nipples. All in with shipping it cost me less than $200, but I did my own assembly. This went on a '85 Stumpjumper with 130mm spacing in the rear, hence the road hubs.

You really don't need to spend a fortune to get a quality, reliable wheelset.
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Originally Posted by striknein View Post
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You really don't need to spend a fortune to get a quality, reliable wheelset.
Zactly
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Variety of hubs, most are the older Deore LX. Rims are either Sun or Weinman. Rhyno Lites, CR-18 and ZAC 50. I use 36 spoke wheels front and rear. Spokes are usually Sapim, some Wheelsmith. Best thing is the fact they are hand built, properly tensioned and stress relieved. I have one set of wheels that went transcontinental back in 1977 on a set of Wolber 58 rims, that are still running true after some 15,000 miles and 28 years of use. They have been hanging in the shed since 2005.

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Originally Posted by striknein View Post
I just built up a set of 36h Sun Rhyno Lite 26" rims laces to Tiagra 4600 hubs with Sapim Race DB spokes and Wheelsmith brass nipples. All in with shipping it cost me less than $200, but I did my own assembly. This went on a '85 Stumpjumper with 130mm spacing in the rear, hence the road hubs.

You really don't need to spend a fortune to get a quality, reliable wheelset.
I keep saying this - that $200 sticker price is only accurate if you consider your time is worth nothing. Point is - it you could be earning $60/hr doing something else instead - that's a different story. And I'm sure that if you had your own machine shop hou could make your own hubs too and 'save' another $50 or so. And maybe if someone GAVE you a set of rims - you could do the whole thing for less than $20. None of which is realistic.
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Originally Posted by wahoonc View Post
Variety of hubs, most are the older Deore LX. Rims are either Sun or Weinman. Rhyno Lites, CR-18 and ZAC 50. I use 36 spoke wheels front and rear. Spokes are usually Sapim, some Wheelsmith. Best thing is the fact they are hand built, properly tensioned and stress relieved. I have one set of wheels that went transcontinental back in 1977 on a set of Wolber 58 rims, that are still running true after some 15,000 miles and 28 years of use. They have been hanging in the shed since 2005.

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Originally Posted by robow View Post
My 26" touring wheelset is comprised of Mavic XC 717 32h rims, Shimano XT hubs, DT butted spokes. I wasn't happy last season when I developed a small crack at one of the eyelets after relatively few miles but hopefully that was a fluke and won't become a reoccurring theme.
How many miles and who built the wheels? Sounds like a warranty issue - have you asked?
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I keep saying this - that $200 sticker price is only accurate if you consider your time is worth nothing. Point is - it you could be earning $60/hr doing something else instead - that's a different story. And I'm sure that if you had your own machine shop hou could make your own hubs too and 'save' another $50 or so. And maybe if someone GAVE you a set of rims - you could do the whole thing for less than $20. None of which is realistic.
Do you charge yourself by the hour when you ride as well? Maybe the money could be better spent hiring a driver... or do you tour on the back of a stokerless tandem?
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How many miles and who built the wheels? Sounds like a warranty issue - have you asked?
My thoughts exactly.

I'm running Mavic XM819 with DB spokes and Chris King disc hubs on my touring bike. I've had these wheels since 2005 on my MTB before switching them to my touring bike last year. These rims have seen major x-country and downhill trails. Never had even a broken spoke and the rims are still looking great. You pay a little bit of penalty on weight, but that's all.
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Do you charge yourself by the hour when you ride as well? Maybe the money could be better spent hiring a driver... or do you tour on the back of a stokerless tandem?
Since you asked - I don't have a cushy 9-5 job with weekends off, paid vacations and sick days. Had plenty of those and quit the last one cause I need to at least respect the people I'm making money for.

So at this point any time I take actually does cost me cold hard cash which means I limit the amount of time I spend on a bike for recreational reasons, take vacation when things slow down (which hasn't been happening over the past year) and try to balance the rest of my activities.

So maybe you can't relate cause you have too much free time on your hands, but my available time is limited and I'd rather spend it wirh the wife or skiing or riding rather than building wheelsets. Cashflow isn't a problem for me - time is. If for you the problem is that you have more available time than money, I can understand doing things yourself, but the idea that anyone's time is 'free' is a big mistake. Its another day out of your life that you'll never see again.

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You should be careful when making assumptions about people whom you don't know. Let's instead agree that people buy, build, or ride bikes for different reasons, and people value their time and efforts in many different ways.
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