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Old 03-16-13, 12:58 PM
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camera for touring.

can anyone recommend a really top class camera thats as cheap as chips .
taking photos on my phone is next to useless and my compact fugi is not much better.
ok i know nothing about cameras or even how to take that perfect photo but i just want a camera that will do me on my cycling jaunts around the country lanes of ireland.

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What's your budget? Cheap as chips doesn't say much.
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The Panasonic LX-7 is not cheap, but it is cheap for a top compact. It currently is $348 in the US, and has gone below $300 at times. It has an outstanding lens with excellent wide angle coverage (24mm), and it's unusually fast (f/1.4 on the wide end, and f/2.3 on the long end) which means it is good in many low light situations, and that allows you to avoid the need for flash (flash eats up batteries and tends to give a flat, harsh look). It has a good sensor with less noise than many point and shoots. Movie mode goes all the way up to 1920 x 1080. I own this and the earlier LX-3, and the LX-3 has taken a lot of abuse over nearly 5 years of use, so I'd expect similar durability from the LX-7.
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Day late, $ short as they say but it was a fine deal

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thanks lads no idea my budget its not to much at the moment though. so you lads reckon i would need to spend $300 or there abouts to get a good one.
maybe i should start looking at the secondhand market.
thanks anyway much appreciated.
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Originally Posted by Erick L View Post
What's your budget? Cheap as chips doesn't say much.
This.

I usually have my G12 in it's container stuck to the front of my handlebars. You can get them pretty cheap off craigslist these days, usually around 1-200USD. If you're really not able to (or don't want to) use the full manual settings I found that it's auto modes work well enough.

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I used a Nikon Coolpix S3100 point-and-shoot on our RTW tour, and the photo quality was pretty good. It cost me somewhere in the neighbourhood of $150.

Round the World Tour Photos: https://www.flickr.com/photos/machka-...7632796492886/

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Old 03-16-13, 04:08 PM
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Canon Powershot, used

Originally Posted by antokelly View Post
thanks lads no idea my budget its not to much at the moment though. so you lads reckon i would need to spend $300 or there abouts to get a good one.
maybe i should start looking at the secondhand market.
thanks anyway much appreciated.
Hi,

Definitely go secondhand for a good deal. You shouldn't have to spend more than about $80.

I went with a used Canon Powershot, because they have models in that price range, they are powered by AA batteries (so you don't have to worry about camping with electricity) and SD cards (so you don't have to worry about weird formats - I'm looking at you, SONY).

Alternatively, I have a GoPro. It's not cheap - about $300, but it's indestructible, and you can mount it in a lot of places.

Here you go to get started on a model:
https://www.google.ca/search?q=site%...amera%22+aa+sd
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...anon+powershot
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Originally Posted by antokelly View Post
can anyone recommend a really top class camera thats as cheap as chips .
taking photos on my phone is next to useless and my compact fugi is not much better.
ok i know nothing about cameras or even how to take that perfect photo but i just want a camera that will do me on my cycling jaunts around the country lanes of ireland.

cheers.
"Top class" and "cheap as chips" don't usually sit too well together.

A lot will depend on just what you're willing to spend and what you want to do with the pictures. If you just want to put them on the screen or share them on twitface you don't need high resolution. If you want to print them at a decent size (11x17 or bigger) you'll want something more serious and therefore more expensive.
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I've been using my Fujifilm XP50 for a year now.
Sizzling summer in China, freezing temps in Philadelphia,
dropped it inside a kayak w/ saltwater in Puerto Rico;
been happy with it's performance so far. Also, I had it
in my sweaty jersey pocket during a few centuries last
year.
https://www.amazon.com/Fujifilm-FineP.../dp/B006T7QTNK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFj80L5e3no
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Originally Posted by willhslade View Post

Alternatively, I have a GoPro. It's not cheap - about $300, but it's indestructible, and you can mount it in a lot of places.

Here you go to get started on a model:
https://www.google.ca/search?q=site%...amera%22+aa+sd
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...anon+powershot
I second the gopro, great shots, easy to use. Love mine to death
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Old 03-16-13, 09:07 PM
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Not sure what the problem is with what you're using. My flip phone cam and my Fugi Finepix AX($75)both do just fine for 4x6 prints and CG journal pics. The Fugi is up to 14 megs, but I shoot at much lower resolution for most scenes. Might be a wall hanger in 1 of 100-200 pics. The rest are just memory shots. I use the Fugi, high res, for a potential wall hanger, and have 3 prize wining photos out of it.

There is not a spit of difference in the optical quality, one compact to another. Mostly in the razmataz which is largely irrelevant to the average shooter.

You gonna have to up the anti a lot for pro level, mostly related to lens quality and sensor size. You might can do this within your budget by going used and old. Nothing wrong with that, long as you know what you're buying.

Oh, and composition. The eye of the beholder is first and foremost. Study the top rated photos on CG for a quick tutorial in composition.

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Old 03-16-13, 10:33 PM
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I'm using a Canon A-570 just for bike rides. It has Image Stablization, uses AA batteries, and has a standard USB port.
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Film still takes marvelous pictures... and digital Sheeple , abandoning them made them Cheap.
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Film still takes marvelous pictures... and digital Sheeple , abandoning them made them Cheap.
Film consumption also costs a lot more over time, and potentially takes up more space. Add the fact that you can't just review things as they're shot and pick and choose as easily, and digital cameras kinda kill film (for the most part) for someone who's touring.

Last time I checked, there's cheap older digital stuff around on craigslist etc. and memory does seem to be getting cheaper as time goes on.

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My Canon A630 is among the finest point and shoot cameras ever made and will also set up manually, battery life is excellent, and the picture quality is good enough for professional work... it has sometimes been confused as being a film camera by virtue of the picture quality. It uses 4 AA batteries and Sd cards for storage so nothing proprietary there.

I also have an 8.2 MP Kodak that I can slip in my pocket that takes very decent pictures (nice lenses) but is nothing close to the level of the Canon which rarely needs any image correction... the Kodak also depends on a charger but has really excellent battery life.

Kodak... under perfect lighting conditions.



The Canon... just pointing and shooting on auto (with no correction) in the moment.





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Film still takes marvelous pictures... and digital Sheeple , abandoning them made them Cheap.
Yes... film is great but digital has made some tremendous advances.
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Originally Posted by Machka View Post
I used a Nikon Coolpix S3100 point-and-shoot on our RTW tour, and the photo quality was pretty good. It cost me somewhere in the neighbourhood of $150.

Round the World Tour Photos: https://www.flickr.com/photos/machka-...7632796492886/

These were taken with my Nikon Coolpix S3100 ... and they each won a little photo competition (as have several others). Not bad for a very small digital point-and-shoot ...





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Wow Machka/Sixty-fiver, those are indeed prize winners, verifying the points I was trying to make, and the cliche about a pic being worth........

It's 90% composistion, 10% equipment. And luck on a bicycle tour of being in the right place at the right time.
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machks you have a great eye
everyone else thanks a million like the idea of picking up one for little money.
not that i'm a skinflint just broke
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Tough or water-resistant cameras are a good choice for touring in Ireland.
I have the Canon A620, a few megapixels short of a 630. It is a solid, sound design but this style of camera is hard to find. The premium compact models from canon, panasonic, olympus are probably over your budget. There are no real useful advances in compact cameras beyond about 10mp so look for an older model, maybe in the window of a small local dealer. I picked mine up on sale at a general electrical goods store.
I like lenses to be wide-angle in preference to high power telephoto; wideangle is much more useful.
Consider the memory card compatibility. You cannot use SDHC card in older SD slots.
Battery availability: there are lots of proprietry shaped lithiums. Get a more common style or AA size.
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Battery availability: there are lots of proprietry shaped lithiums. Get a more common style or AA size.
One thing to keep in mind though, is that 3rd party batteries can be just as good for a fraction of the price, so it's really not that big a deal.

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Wow Machka/Sixty-fiver, those are indeed prize winners, verifying the points I was trying to make, and the cliche about a pic being worth........

It's 90% composition, 10% equipment. And luck on a bicycle tour of being in the right place at the right time.
I was reading a review on the A630 that was written by a professional photographer who said he used this camera as much as his pro level film camera because the quality of the lenses and because the digital sensor was so good. I rarely have to do anything but re-size images and my photo software cannot find anything to correct when I am firing the camera in auto mode.

The A630 is an 8MP camera but the MP rating on a camera is only part of the package, better lenses and sensors make or break a camera. UNlike lesser point and shoot cameras it also has very good manual settings for high speed and night shooting.

It is great when you find yourself walking through the devastation that was and is Mt. St. Helens and find places like this...

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These were taken with my Nikon Coolpix S3100 ... and they each won a little photo competition (as have several others). Not bad for a very small digital point-and-shoot ...
Awesome shots.

My friend is an accomplished photographer and uses a very nice Fuji digital in addition to film... his work is wonderful.
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I've been pretty happy with the Canon G12. It does a good job with macro pictures.





I also appreciate the optical eye level viewfinder and fast lens for low light street scenes.

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