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All-City Space Horse (gravel light-touring rig) build thread!

Old 04-24-13, 06:29 PM
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All-City Space Horse (gravel light-touring rig) build thread!

The frame finally arrived today after getting held up by weather in Illinois, along with a number of the other parts I've been waiting on. Unfortunately still waiting on another shipment from ProBikeKit with a majority of the drivetrain, but I was at least able to mock up the bar and saddle height to check basic fit.

55cm All-City Space Horse
Velocity A23 / Shimano 105 32h wheelset (black)
Continental TourContact tires (claimed to be 28x1.6, calipers said 38mm) / Clement LAS 700x33c tires
TRP RevoX cantilever brakes (KoolStop dual compound pads added)
Shimano SLX 11-34 10sp cassette
Shimano Deore rear derailleur (with jtek shiftmate)
Campagnolo Veloce CT 50-34 crank
Campagnolo Veloce FD
Campagnolo Veloce 10sp shifters
Ritchey stem & bars
WTB Rocket V Pro saddle (impluse clearance buy at Performance while picking up tubes)


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Cool build.

I just rode one of these a couple of weeks ago for the first time.

About 30 miles on local farm roads!

I really liked the reasonably smooth ride over unpredictable wavy class five roads.

Yours looks like a winner.

Are you going to use Veloce Ergos?
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When I bought my Salsa Casseroll, my LBS had that and a Pacer as my other options in ride quality/versatility. Nice bike! I ended up with the Cass but could have easily been swayed into the Spacehorse. Great build quality and you won't see it around every street corner. Steel is awesome! Enjoy the cush!
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Are you going to use Veloce Ergos?
Yes, in fact I am. along with a Veloce 50/34 compact crank and front derailleur.
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Originally Posted by cuda2k
Yes, in fact I am. along with a Veloce 50/34 compact crank and front derailleur.
Yes, many of us have concluded the same thing you have then.

Great performance and bulletproof drive train.

Not to mention great pricing on the complete package.

Very nice build!

If I didn't just buy Fender1's La Cruz, I'd likely do a similar build as yours.
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Should be getting the Space Horse back from the shop today with the headset installed and steerer cut. Think it's time for me to invest in the tools to do that... I keep saying "I don't buy so many bikes that I need those", but always seems I do. In any case, all of the other parts have arrived save one, slightly important bit, the jtek shiftmate. Seems there was a mishap at their shop recently and are backed-up on orders. Well, guess I prefer that than them shipping a bad part of some sort. Photos of the progressing build to come probably later this evening.
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A friend of mine has a Space Horse, and it is a really nice bike. The quality of construction and paint are great. He is using it for commuting and leisurely rides on trails. My only issue is the sizing is rather limited. I would fall between the 55 and 58 sizes, and neither would fit me well.
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Originally Posted by tarwheel
A friend of mine has a Space Horse, and it is a really nice bike. The quality of construction and paint are great. He is using it for commuting and leisurely rides on trails. My only issue is the sizing is rather limited. I would fall between the 55 and 58 sizes, and neither would fit me well.

DITTO..... Love the style (Minus that fork) but the size steered me away..
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The fork does have an odd bend in it, but it's alright. I got lucky with the sizing, I actually need the shortish top tube of the 55, just makes for a stack of spacers. The 55 really is closer to a 56 in a lot of other brands from what I was comparing between on the numbers. Top tube length is what prevented me from going with the CrossCheck or DoubleCross.

Got the frame back, guys at Bicycles Plus in Allen did good as usual. Then I got home and realized that the crankset I bought didn't come with the cups include - DOH! Last several campy groups I've bought have been as complete groups, so missed that slight detail. So, Amazon Prime to the rescue again, should have those by Saturday. Still won't have the jtek by then, so it's all good. Figure I can get the bars (after I decide which of the 3 pairs I have here I want to use) and levers on in the mean time.
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Was all set to get the crank installed, before I realized I'd failed to order the cups. Crank lightly set in the BB shell for photos.


Just enough silver, but quite a bit of black bits as well going into this build.



Update 5/3 - instead of a new post (kind of pointless not to create a new post since this is at the top anyways... but whatever...)

Couldn't stand the high-rise stem any longer. Pulled the Ritchey 4-axis "44" that I had and mounted it up. The beefier squarish stem looks much more at home on this bike than it ever did on the Kirk Frameworks. Reach should be slightly shorter than my road bikes by about 1.5cm, drop is still quite a bit less than the roadies as well. Haven't stuck this on the trainer yet and climbed on as I really won't be able to get a feel for the fit till the cranks are on...


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Its more a touring bike than a cross racer. but most posters are JRA, on their bikes anyhow..
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It looks nice.
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Yeah, probably won't be racing this one, or any other of my various bikes, I scar too badly to risk hitting the deck any more than just riding along brings with it. Really dislike the look of that stem, but need to get the cranks and pedals on before I can test the fit. And of course I go what I thought would be the cups from Amazon today... and they sent me BB30 cups. So, back to square one on that. Going to be another week till I can get all the pieces put together.
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Cantilevers, regardless of price point or features, are always a pain in the ass to setup. Probably going to take a few test rides to really dial in, but think I finally got these in the ballpark. Also, the Surly rear cable stop with adjuster is also an actual pain in the fingers to adjust - not sure if it's the ferrule I used or the bend in the housing leading up to it but damn!
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Really nice build. Sort of reminds me of a bike I've seen. Oh yeah, my Salsa Casseroll.
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Geometry is in the same ballpark, but some differences, the Space Horse probably is a bit more 'tourer' than CX in some areas, and certainly not quite a road frame with big clearances either. Really looking forward to getting this out on the road, hopefully by this time next week, still debating picking up some Clement X'plor MSO 700x40's to mount up for the gravel heavy gravel roads.
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Cutting the steerer would have come last, in my book.. , but too late now, its cut.
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After some consideration, this build really is more of a touring rig than a cyclocross setup, so moving it over to the Touring forum.

Update, the Jtek shiftmate is finally on its way, however during my research, realized that the XT Shadow RD that I'd bought wouldn't work with the standard jtek shiftmate, and instead of gambling on how long it would take for a jtek straight body to get shipped, I instead just ordered a Deore SGS derailleur to use. Figure I'll stash the XT part for a future build if I decide to build a flat bar gravel touring rig down the road for the real rough stuff.

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Cutting the steerer would have come last, in my book.. , but too late now, its cut.
Once the headset was on, only about 1cm of steerer tube was cut off, though that was more or less the 1cm that I'd requested be added to the stack but alas miscommunication at the bike shop. They're good guys and figure there was equal parts blame and they did me right in the end. Think the minimal drop will be just about right for me.
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I love this bike. Keep us posted with updates as you get it built. My friend's bike is the same size as yours with similar components and tires, but it's orange.

I recently sold the Casseroll frame that I posted photos of above, but my LBS is building up a Ritchey Breakaway Cross frame with the parts I took off the Salsa. I sold my mountain bike a couple of years ago and have been wanting another bike that I could ride off-road, so the Ritchey should fit the bill -- as provide me another option for commuting and touring.
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tarwheel - I SOOOOO wanted the orange color!! I usually have a thing for blue bikes (the Kirk is blue, the bike I sold to fund this one is blue, nearly painted my Serotta blue, and I've owned/sold/painted a couple of other blue bikes...) - but that burnt orange just did it for me. The light blue is nice, but the want for orange already has me considering a Handsome Cycles XOXO.

The Ritchey Breakaway's are sweet too, rode with a guy over the weekend with one of the road frames in Ti.

I stopped riding pretty much anything resembling off-road a number of years ago when I moved away from my closest mtb trail. But think the suburban road ride every weekend thing is has really kinda burned me out, striking out for roads less traveled (or even paved) is the name of the game with this build. Strongly considering selling my Schwinn Crosscut when this one is finished and building something in the 26" wheel persuasion instead (see the comment about the XOXO) for when I want a flat bar. //end threadjack of my own thread.
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I really like the A.C. Space Horse. Very good-looking bike and it seems so versatile, too! I learned about it just recently when someone mentioned it in the 41. Oddly enough, we ordered a custom rando/credit card touring bike earlier this year and ended up with a paint scheme that resembles so much the Space Horse. Really wanted chrome tips on the fork and rear dropouts (like old school bikes), but the builder told us how difficult/expensive is to do chroming nowadays, let alone how bad it is for the environment.

This bike features 26" wheels for easy travel and finding replacements wheel parts anywhere in the world (esp. since we live in Mexico.)


Looking forward to seeing more of yours when completely finished.
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I will post a photo of my Ritchey Breakaway Cross when it's built. It is the orange-and-gray version, kind of funky but I like it. I also sold my mtn bike a few years ago but wanted something to ride on unpaved roads and trails. Rode the New River Trail last summer on my touring bike as well as parts of the C&O Canal. Would like to ride the entire C&O Canal and GAP trails later this summer or fall, and the Ritchey Cross should be perfect for that. This photo is someone else's bike, but mine is the same size and color and will look very similar when built.
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Originally Posted by tarwheel
I will post a photo of my Ritchey Breakaway Cross when it's built. It is the orange-and-gray version, kind of funky but I like it. I also sold my mtn bike a few years ago but wanted something to ride on unpaved roads and trails. Rode the New River Trail last summer on my touring bike as well as parts of the C&O Canal. Would like to ride the entire C&O Canal and GAP trails later this summer or fall, and the Ritchey Cross should be perfect for that. This photo is someone else's bike, but mine is the same size and color and will look very similar when built.
And here's the perfectly matching helmet: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Orange-Gray-...-/400343852266

PS: I don't know why the seller labeled it "Childrens Kids", because the size is definitely adult M/L.
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Hmmm ... Nice helmet and I actually need a new one. I've got a Bell Citi helmet that I've used for commuting a while, and they are nice helmets with a tab on the back for a taillight.
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Originally Posted by tarwheel
Really nice build. Sort of reminds me of a bike I've seen. Oh yeah, my Salsa Casseroll.
Another Casserol owner here. That Space Horse looks pretty sweet. My Casseroll looks pretty similar except mine came with a small front rack.
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