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Old 06-29-13, 02:54 PM
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Theft - Boulder, CO

Hello all,

A few days ago my girlfriend and I had all of our touring gear stolen from our campsite while we were away. The only things the thieves did not get were our touring bikes and 1 pannier we were using as a day bag at the time. This happened near Boulder, CO in Roosevelt National Forest. If anyone in the Front Range area of Colorado sees red and white ortileb bags for sale please let me know.

Stolen items include:
goal zero solar panels
goal zero speakers
ozark trails down sleeping bags x2 (teal/black)
custom hammocks x 2 (one pink, one green)
custom hammock bugnets x2
3 ortlieb classic backrollers (2 red, 1 white)
2 ortlieb classic frontrollers (2 red)
MSR pocket rocket knockoff stove in an orange box
5 gallon sunshower bag
custom 10x14' Tyvek tarp
100' of accessory cord
titanium spork
columbia waterproof jacket
sawyer squeeze water filter
misc personal items, camping items, food, etc

**ninja edit** the bikes are fine, only the gear was looted. Trip is over, flying back to FL I've had the call of shame, the ride of shame, but never the fly of shame.
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Was this your version of covert camping? (camping where you're not supposed to) Doesn't look like a developed campground and I can't imagine thieves being nice enough to take everything except the bikes (probably the most valuable things in your camp). I assume you've checked with the rangers... Rangers in the Sierras anyway are known for clearing unauthorized camps, even when there is no-one there. I imagine if this was the case they only left the bikes so that you could get out.

Sorry anyway. That sucks big time.
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Originally Posted by urbanescapee
Was this your version of covert camping? (camping where you're not supposed to) Doesn't look like a developed campground and I can't imagine thieves being nice enough to take everything except the bikes (probably the most valuable things in your camp). I assume you've checked with the rangers... Rangers in the Sierras anyway are known for clearing unauthorized camps, even when there is no-one there. I imagine if this was the case they only left the bikes so that you could get out.

Sorry anyway. That sucks big time.

I agree . Something does not sound right here. Why would a thief waste time with most of that stuff? I can see maybe the stove and bags, maybe a few other things but the rest is not worth the time and risk to being caught. If it was the rangers then another good reason to camp in authorized campsites.
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I'm reading this as: They had camped and were away from the camp day cycling with one Ortlieb when the thieves struck. Probably loaded everything into a vehicle.

Tough.
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At least they didn't get your bikes.. Sucks though hope you get your stuff back.
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Originally Posted by Caretaker
I'm reading this as: They had camped and were away from the camp day cycling with one Ortlieb when the thieves struck. Probably loaded everything into a vehicle.

Tough.

I see. I read it as they left the bikes and we're out hiking with a pannier as a daypack... Also could have been mistaken for a homeless camp? Especially not having a proper tent...
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Originally Posted by Caretaker
I'm reading this as: They had camped and were away from the camp day cycling with one Ortlieb when the thieves struck. Probably loaded everything into a vehicle.

Tough.
Why would a thief bother with things like cord and a tarp? No, more likely rangers came and cleaned up the site.
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Wow what a snarky group! First of all with few exceptions Roosevelt National forest is open to primitive camping. While I don't condone or encourage primitive/covert camping I don't see the point in breaking the guy's balls either. As for what people will steal, a 1/4 gram of meth is about $20-25 .Even a couple bucks for 100' of cord gets a meth head closer to a his next high.

As for shame, the only shame is how the OP is being treated in this thread.
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Originally Posted by velonomad
Wow what a snarky group! First of all with few exceptions Roosevelt National forest is open to primitive camping. While I don't condone or encourage primitive/covert camping I don't see the point in breaking the guy's balls either. As for what people will steal, a 1/4 gram of meth is about $20-25 .Even a couple bucks for 100' of cord gets a meth head closer to a his next high.

As for shame, the only shame is how the OP is being treated in this thread.
Agreed. I was lucky to get a chance to console OP earlier on ******. The whole thing sucks, the details he didn't post here basically sum up to him being a legitimate victim.

****** brought up an interesting point. Just because you may think your practices are superior to someone else's doesn't make it ok to berate people every time there's a new theft thread. Let's blame the scumbags who robbed them and then ask what we can do to help.

Courtesy before lectures, people.
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It's a fear everyone legitimately has. It is raised in this forum frequently. chefisaac started a thread that discussed this quite recently.

Machka had her all-time favourite bike stolen from a campground in a small town where nothing like that was supposed to happen. She was devastated. I am sure the OP is, too, because the theft wrecked a great holiday...

From experience, a theft in these circumstances is something that is very, very difficult to get over because one's trust in other people has almost entirely evaporated.
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Been there. My first and only (and favorite, and best...) touring bike, Bikeasaurus Rex, was stolen.

By doing what OP is doing, spreading the word, I got it back. He and I have gone 5,000 miles together.
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Hi CrazyLemurBoy,
really sorry to hear about your ruined holiday.
That sort of thing happens here in Australia too, so your not alone.
New Zealand as well, I've heard tales of campers being targeted by thieves and even people in campervans being attacked in the night and robbed.
Dont let it stop you touring.
Use it as an excuse to buy some flash new gear that you'd normally deny yoursef due to the cost.
A bit of retail therapy can be a great thing to get you over the poor behavior of others.
I do a lot of stealth camping but now I tend to pack every thing up and carry it away on the bike when I leave camp.
Glad you weren't there when it happened or those losers might have done something worse.
Here in Australia I put a lot more effort, when camping wild, avoiding people rather than the multitude of poisonous snakes and spiders and scorpions.
I make a point of making my tents, bivybags and tarps green to try to help make them harder to spot amongst the trees/scrub.
Do remember to put up a post boasting of all your new flash gear and logic of your purchase choices.
I always like to hear why one brand gets chosen over another and often learn something new from others perspective.
Chin up and happy spinning.
Dont let the illegitimates get you down.

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Originally Posted by rifraf
Dont let the illegitimates get you down.
Or as my ex-mother-in-law used to say:

Nil bastardo carborundum.

I didn't know you were in Australia, too, rifraf.
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So sorry, CrazyLemurBoy, that really sucks. I never felt comfortable leaving my stuff around at the campside and going off exploring. This reinforces my paranoia, really too bad. :-(
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So sorry, CrazyLemurBoy, that really sucks. I never felt comfortable leaving my stuff around at the campside and going off exploring. This reinforces my paranoia, really too bad. :-(
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Originally Posted by Rowan
Or as my ex-mother-in-law used to say:

Nil bastardo carborundum.

I didn't know you were in Australia, too, rifraf.
Hi Rowen,
Been here approx three years this time around.
Was in NZ for appox 7 before that.
Back in Australia for 3.5
NZ for 3
UK for approx 4 before that including some time in Ireland.
I get around.
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lemurboy, did you fly already? If you are still in boulder, shoot me a PM i have a lot of touring stuff you could borrow if you want to keep riding.

sorry about the theft, that blows.
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Originally Posted by valygrl
lemurboy, did you fly already? If you are still in boulder, shoot me a PM i have a lot of touring stuff you could borrow if you want to keep riding.

sorry about the theft, that blows.

You are awesome!
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lemurboy, did you fly already? If you are still in boulder, shoot me a PM i have a lot of touring stuff you could borrow if you want to keep riding.

sorry about the theft, that blows.
You're amazing, valygrl! <3
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Hello all,

I just want to say thank you for everyone's sympathy, it sucks when a vacation gets ruined.

The rangers certainly did not grab our gear, we made certain to contact all the proper authority figures to verify our gear was not moved by them. In this particular forest there is disbursed camping anywhere 100 feet from the trail or water sources, which we obeyed. Foolishly I left the gear packed up in a ditch while we were out day riding in Boulder, thinking it would remain unseen. We have done this many times without consequence, but it seems this time we paid the price. It was very easy for them to grab all my gear as it was loaded into the panniers.

valygrl, we are in Fort Collins currently crashing at a friends. Our flight doesn't leave until July 11. I will send you a PM shortly!

Thank you everyone for your kind words, I know now that my theft deterrent methods were subpar. This experience has taught us a valuable lesson and I hope that my mistake can become wisdom for others.
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I hope you can salvage your vacation, and hopefully insurance will help replace some of your stuff.
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Originally Posted by CrazyLemurBoy
Hello all,

I just want to say thank you for everyone's sympathy, it sucks when a vacation gets ruined.

The rangers certainly did not grab our gear, we made certain to contact all the proper authority figures to verify our gear was not moved by them. In this particular forest there is disbursed camping anywhere 100 feet from the trail or water sources, which we obeyed. Foolishly I left the gear packed up in a ditch while we were out day riding in Boulder, thinking it would remain unseen. We have done this many times without consequence, but it seems this time we paid the price. It was very easy for them to grab all my gear as it was loaded into the panniers.

valygrl, we are in Fort Collins currently crashing at a friends. Our flight doesn't leave until July 11. I will send you a PM shortly!

Thank you everyone for your kind words, I know now that my theft deterrent methods were subpar. This experience has taught us a valuable lesson and I hope that my mistake can become wisdom for others.
That makes a lot more sense how everything was stolen. In your attempt to conceal from theft, you made it easy on the thieves to make off with every scrap. But given the type of campsite that you show in the pictures, you did exactly what I was going to suggest to do. No tents or anything makes it pretty easy to just pack everything up for the day and hide it.

I did not mean to disparage you in any way, just given your original post and the pictures, it did not make sense that someone would have grabbed all of that and just picked the easy stuff. But in one big easy to take bundle, it was easier to grab everything instead of going through it at the site.

Was anyone else camping nearby that could have grabbed it? Unless you did a horrible job of hiding the gear it is hard to believe someone just stumbled upon it. I'll bet you were being watched by someone.

I just don't understand why people can't respect the property of others. And there are worse stories than this like stealing the food hung in a tree by tourers and hikers. It is one thing to grab someone's gear but to grab their food out in the middle of nowhere, should get you life in prison.

Whoever grabbed you gear should get at least 20 years.

I would like to think it was innocent, that someone stumbled upon it and thought it was forgotten gear. But note likely. In the unusual circumstance this was the case, was your contact info on any of it?

This whole event makes me rethink my weekend plans. I was going to camp outside a small town, leaving my gear at the site to go into town for a bite to eat. I need to think about that plan now. For me it would be no big deal as it would be a 35 mile ride down a bike trail in the dark would be the worst of it.
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Real sad to read of your misfortune because of lowlifes. Unfortunately, there are scumbags and thieves everywhere, and they're not just individuals looking for anything to sell quickly to buy more drugs. I personally never leave my bike and equipment out of my sight unless I can securely lock it up or with someone. I have asked proprietors of stores, service garages, and police stations if I can leave my stuff with them for a few hours. Most are more than willing to help. I'm sure that Ranger Stations, Fire Departments, and Municipal buildings would also help if asked.
I had one potentially nasty incident while cycling along the Cascade Divide on the Alaskan Hwy. While I was boiling water in my tent set up at the timber edge of the wide road allowance, I heard a vehicle stop on the gravel shoulder. I waited a couple of minutes but didn't hear them drive off, so I looked outside in time to see 2 men sneaking toward my bike parked by the tent. This was many, many miles from any buildings or inhabitants so I would have been left stranded had they got my bike loaded with half my gear.
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Originally Posted by Big Lew
I had one potentially nasty incident while cycling along the Cascade Divide on the Alaskan Hwy. While I was boiling water in my tent set up at the timber edge of the wide road allowance, I heard a vehicle stop on the gravel shoulder. I waited a couple of minutes but didn't hear them drive off, so I looked outside in time to see 2 men sneaking toward my bike parked by the tent. This was many, many miles from any buildings or inhabitants so I would have been left stranded had they got my bike loaded with half my gear.
So what ended up happening?

They used to hang horse thieves. In this kind of situation a similar punishment would have been well warranted.
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