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Old 07-03-13, 04:48 PM
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After market handle bar mount for Ortlieb handlebar bags?

I remember seeing an after market handle bar mount for Ortlieb handlebar bags. But Now that I am searching for it I cannot find it. Anyone know where I would find such a thing or who manufactures it?
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Rixon and Kaul I believe - I think my one is:
https://www.wiggle.co.uk/rixen-kaul-k...lebar-bracket/
with an extension:
https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/rixen-and...828-prod21943/
and accessory adapter:
ebay.com.au/itm/Rixen-Kaul-Multi-Clip-PLUS-light-and-computer-mount-/190799091989


They do a lockable version:
https://www.chainreactioncycles.com/M...?ModelID=47423
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Yeah thanks. I saw that other thread on this same mount, which prompted my memory, but when I went to check it out it never mentioned Ortlieb so I got confused. Thought I had the wrong bracket.
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These show the "cockpit" of my Moulton APB and the Rixon and Kaul adaptor to hold my Ortlieb Ultimate 5 (I think is the model number)

Yeah I think I can remember some confusion on my part due to their not mentioning which handlebar bag it was for.

For my Ogre, I had trouble because of my handlebars (Titec J-bar) and had to get a Thorn accessory bar https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/thorn-acc...deg-prod11040/ to attach my barbag below and in front of my handlebars.
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Is this

https://www.amazon.com/KLICKfix-Handl...rixen+%26+kaul

The same thing? Might not work for me. I have the Classic. My bag slides into the bracket. It looks to me like this bracket slides into the bracket on the bag. True?
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Hi Spinnaker,
Its around noon my time here.
When I get home I'll look at both my bikes and the handlebar bag and see if i can get some pics for you.
The link does appear to be what I use on my Moulton.
My Ogre has the original Ortlieb version and my Ultimate 5 fits fine on both.
What any difference might be I'm not sure but hopefully my having a look and adding some pics will help.
Let me know what views you might find the most helpful and I'll try to get my camera to take them.
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I really like the Jandd: https://www.jandd.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=FTORB

It does cost a bit more (you also need the parts that attach to the bag) but it is rock solid and detachable.
If you have bars larger than 26mm, some modification is required with a file or Dremel tool.
I have glued the mount for my cyclecomputer to the top of the mount. Worked great and looks good too.
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Ive been looking for an additional mount, hard to find one in stock here. The Ortlieb sites do mention compatibility with Rixon and Kaul, but do be aware that the new Ultimate 6 bags that replace the 5, have a diff mount now. It is clearly marked 6 vs the 5, what the diff is I dont know, but do be aware.

I have yet to set a Klick fix Rixon and Kaul in person to see if my 5 bag works with it, so am hesitant to purchase one online, but for myself, I need to get an additional mount in the next week so will prob order an Ortlieb one that will arrive in the next few days. Cost diff is not much and that way I know it will work.
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Originally Posted by Ronno6
I really like the Jandd: https://www.jandd.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=FTORB

It does cost a bit more (you also need the parts that attach to the bag) but it is rock solid and detachable.
If you have bars larger than 26mm, some modification is required with a file or Dremel tool.
I have glued the mount for my cyclecomputer to the top of the mount. Worked great and looks good too.
Is this compatible with the original Ortlieb? I don't like the fact that you need to twist to remove. Things are already a bit tight between my drops, not sure if there would be space to twist the bag.
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Have Both, Ortlieb bar-bags hangs from the KF bar bag mount. catch engages as well.
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Originally Posted by fietsbob
Have Both, Ortlieb bar-bags hangs from the KF bar bag mount. catch engages as well.
When you say "both" do you mean you have the Ortlieb Classic?
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Originally Posted by spinnaker
Is this compatible with the original Ortlieb? I don't like the fact that you need to twist to remove. Things are already a bit tight between my drops, not sure if there would be space to twist the bag.
I do not know for sure if it will work with the Ortlieb bag, but I can't see why it would not.
There is NO twist rquired to remove the bag from the mount; just depress the locking tang at the top center, and the bag lifts straight up and off.
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Originally Posted by Ronno6
I do not know for sure if it will work with the Ortlieb bag, but I can't see why it would not.
There is NO twist rquired to remove the bag from the mount; just depress the locking tang at the top center, and the bag lifts straight up and off.
This is what the website says

To remove the bag, push forward on the center tongue while rotating the bag 1/4 turn to either side and pull lightly back on the pack. Detailed mounting instructions located inside each bag.

But come to think of it, I might give my bag a small twist to get it off of the original mount a little easier.

How does this mound to the bar? The bracket in the picture looks incomplete.
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Never mind mounting inductions here

https://www.jandd.com/Technotes/technotes_QRB.asp
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have an ultimate '3' RC* bar bag , and one clip, I have 2 KF bar Bag mounts..
the bag can use all 3 ..

but the KF bags dont work on the Ortlieb Bar Bag Mount.

I use the KF wire supports , & have 1 plate mount used by many bag makers in EU.

* It has a roll and snap closure ..
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Originally Posted by spinnaker
This is what the website says

To remove the bag, push forward on the center tongue while rotating the bag 1/4 turn to either side and pull lightly back on the pack. Detailed mounting instructions located inside each bag.
I never received instructions with mine, having purchased it second hand......I seldom read them anyways...... ;-)
I pretty much just push the tang and lift off. Maybe the twist is performed instinctively.
Now you have me wondering.....
But, it IS one darn secure mounting system-requiring no straps or wires of any sort.
The bag itself does require some sort on internal structure in order to give the bag portion of the mound something to be screwed to.
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Originally Posted by Ronno6
I pretty much just push the tang and lift off. Maybe the twist is performed instinctively.
Now you have me wondering.....
Yeah same here. I will bet if we really watched what we did, it might be a bit of a twist but a 1/4 turn sounds extreme.

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But, it IS one darn secure mounting system-requiring no straps or wires of any sort.
The bag itself does require some sort on internal structure in order to give the bag portion of the mound something to be screwed to.
So now you have me confused. Is there a part that screws in to the bag itself?
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Originally Posted by fietsbob
have an ultimate '3' RC* bar bag , and one clip, I have 2 KF bar Bag mounts..
the bag can use all 3 ..

but the KF bags dont work on the Ortlieb Bar Bag Mount.

I use the KF wire supports , & have 1 plate mount used by many bag makers in EU.

* It has a roll and snap closure ..
This is really confusing. You say you have the Ultimate with the KF mount then you say the KF mount does not work with Ortlieb.

Which is it?
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Originally Posted by spinnaker

So now you have me confused. Is there a part that screws in to the bag itself?
Yessir.As I indicated in post #7 , you also need the parts that attach to the bag.
That is listed at the bottom of the mount description as: Bag Mounting Plate and hardware $7.95
The mount sttaches to the bike, the Bag Mounting Plate and hardware to the bag itself.
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KF works with Both theirs & O, Ortlieb only works with their stuff.

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Originally Posted by fietsbob
KF works with Both theirs & O, Ortlieb only works with their stuff.
OK thanks got it. Is there a piece that bolts to the bag itself like Ron's mount?
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Originally Posted by Ronno6
Yessir.As I indicated in post #7 , you also need the parts that attach to the bag.
That is listed at the bottom of the mount description as: Bag Mounting Plate and hardware $7.95
The mount sttaches to the bike, the Bag Mounting Plate and hardware to the bag itself.
Thanks, sometime I am reading challenged.

How hard was it to mount the plate? Does it require drilling holes in the bag?
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the Plate has a hole in 4 corners . bag needs an inside stiffener ..

if you pre drill the stiffener before putting it inside the bag , you could use a
pointed awl to poke through the fabric of the bag .. to insert the bolts..

If nylon fabric, Hot nail will melt around the hole .. so it won't let fabric weave fray..

might make the assembly easier..
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Originally Posted by spinnaker

How hard was it to mount the plate? Does it require drilling holes in the bag?
The bag I purchased is a Jandd Mountain IV, and the mounting plate was already attached.
There are 4 screws which attach the plate to the bag.They are maybe 8-32 in size
with a washer and nylock nut for each on the inside. You would need to provide the holes, but
the mounting plate would serve as a handy guide.
The Jandd bag has a poly stiffener on the inside to hold shape, and the screws pass thru that plate.
I am not familiar with the construction of the Ortlieb bag, hence my caveat in the original mention.
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Originally Posted by fietsbob
the Plate has a hole in 4 corners . bag needs an inside stiffener ..

if you pre drill the stiffener before putting it inside the bag , you could use a
pointed awl to poke through the fabric of the bag .. to insert the bolts..

If nylon fabric, Hot nail will melt around the hole .. so it won't let fabric weave fray..

might make the assembly easier..
So does the mount come with the plate? Or does the plate need to be ordered separately like the Jandd?
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