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Old 07-30-13, 12:36 PM
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Crosscountry planning early stages

Starting to plan a cross country jaunt and want to start in Seaside OR. We're planning to take Amtrak from home (Omaha NE) to Portland OR with our bikes as checked baggage. Saw that Amtrak has a bus connector from Portland to Seaside, but also noted that it has no checked baggage.

Does anyone know if the connector truly is "no checked baggage?" Do they perchance have a bike rack on the front (I'm probably dreaming here?) Barring those two options, does anyone know of a shuttle service to get us from point A to point B?
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Old 07-30-13, 02:31 PM
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No problem --

NorthWest Point bus service leaves from the Portland Amtrak station to Seaside.
Must prepurchase bike baggage space.

Link:
https://www.northwest-point.com/schedule.aspx

Morning and evening departures.
But funding may impact future service.
Check well before leaving.
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Originally Posted by jamawani
No problem --

NorthWest Point bus service leaves from the Portland Amtrak station to Seaside.
Must prepurchase bike baggage space.
jamawani is correct. We have used the Amtrak bus from Portland to Astoria, and Astoria to Portland with our bikes.
I believe it is the same bus that goes to Seaside.

You will probably have to box your bikes as checked baggage. Just leave them in the boxes when you arrive in Portland and move them to the bus area using one of the handy carts.
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In California, the Amtrak connector buses will take bikes in the baggage compartment as unchecked baggage, and don't even insist that they be boxed. I would box them anyway for the bike's protection, plus you don't want chain schmutz on other passengers' baggage.
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Our recently retired CFO is in the middle of the country right now... well the last post i got was N'Dakota about 6 days ago... he and his brother are doing it... he has a road bike and a recumbent.......
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Yea NW Point is not an Amtrak bus, but it stops there and picks up .. Runs big Prevost coaches,
with wi fi and large cargo bays underneath. $18. OW. 2X a day,

Our LBS in Astoria gets many bikes owned by Cross country riders shipped in , and either assembled for ,

or stored till arrival, and given a corner of the shop for DIY..
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This is great timing for this question, as I have been wondering the same for the last couple days. Different location, same issue. To get from New Orleans to St. Louis by Amtrak involves a bus ride from Carbondale IL, and there is no baggage service on the bus. Its about 140 some miles to St Louis, was thinking about just riding it, providing I could get my bike off at the Carbondale station. No one I have talked to on the Phone seems to know. Better to ask here I thought than open a new thread.

I do find it interesting that you can get to the St Louis station from New Orleans if you are willing to go to Chicago first. Thought about doing that, but a 25 hour train trip sounds like more hassle than an extra 140+/- mile ride, except that it will be on crummy roads.
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Originally Posted by shipwreck
Its about 140 some miles to St Louis, was thinking about just riding it, providing I could get my bike off at the Carbondale station. No one I have talked to on the Phone seems to know. Better to ask here I thought than open a new thread.
You can only take a bike on Amtrak between stations with checked baggage service. Carbondale, IL has checked baggage service:

https://www.amtrak.com/servlet/Conten..._Page&code=CDL
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Originally Posted by Doug64
jamawani is correct. We have used the Amtrak bus from Portland to Astoria, and Astoria to Portland with our bikes. I believe it is the same bus that goes to Seaside. You will probably have to box your bikes as checked baggage. Just leave them in the boxes when you arrive in Portland and move them to the bus area using one of the handy carts.
Yep, the NW Point that goes to Astoria passes through Seaside (and Cannon Beach) first. They take unboxed bikes, but if your bike is already boxed it may be just easier to load it into the cargo hold that way.
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Bus stops on 9th st in Astoria, bike shop is on 11th, so dragging the box a block, 10th to 11th,
will get you some support in re assembly , if you wish it.

There is no place to discard the carton where the bus stops.
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Originally Posted by LongKayak
Starting to plan a cross country jaunt and want to start in Seaside OR. We're planning to take Amtrak from home (Omaha NE) to Portland OR with our bikes as checked baggage. Saw that Amtrak has a bus connector from Portland to Seaside, but also noted that it has no checked baggage.

Does anyone know if the connector truly is "no checked baggage?" Do they perchance have a bike rack on the front (I'm probably dreaming here?) Barring those two options, does anyone know of a shuttle service to get us from point A to point B?
I'm watching this thread with baited breath, as I'm planning to make the same trip out west in a little over a month. I live just a little west of you, near Kearney and plan to do most of the western half of the Trans Am. Just looking at the options in getting myself, gear and bike out to the west coast.
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Originally Posted by gif4445
I'm watching this thread with baited breath, as I'm planning to make the same trip out west in a little over a month. I live just a little west of you, near Kearney and plan to do most of the western half of the Trans Am. Just looking at the options in getting myself, gear and bike out to the west coast.
Good luck on the ride! Are you planning to journal it here or on blog somewhere? I'd be interested in reading your experiences.
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Originally Posted by gif4445
I'm watching this thread with baited breath, as I'm planning to make the same trip out west in a little over a month. I live just a little west of you, near Kearney and plan to do most of the western half of the Trans Am. Just looking at the options in getting myself, gear and bike out to the west coast.
Pack cold weather gear. For example, the average low in Wisdom, MT in September is around 28. Yellowstone will be about the same, if not colder. Highs should be nice, though.
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Originally Posted by LongKayak
Good luck on the ride! Are you planning to journal it here or on blog somewhere? I'd be interested in reading your experiences.
I will Journal this on CGOAB. I have journaled the last two September rides, to the Black Hills/Sand Hills https://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/..._id=11208&v=GF , and my first fling to Breckenridge https://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/..._id=10146&v=81 . Just got a call from my nephew that he is interested in taking me out to Astoria OR. Has some business on the way back. So looks like this is moving forward finally!
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
Pack cold weather gear. For example, the average low in Wisdom, MT in September is around 28. Yellowstone will be about the same, if not colder. Highs should be nice, though.
The temps will make for some shorter days I believe. I plan to credit card camp the route. Need to do some further research, as I know there are a couple places along the way that will make this a challenge.
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Originally Posted by gif4445
I plan to credit card camp the route.
Contradiction in terms. I did a couple of days on the TA (Missoula to just east of Big Hole Pass) a few years ago and the section between Missoula and Fairplay, CO many years ago. There is indoor lodging in in Hamilton, Darby (campground that also has cabins), Wisdom, Jackson, Dillon, Twin Bridges, Ennis and W. Yellowstone and inside the park. Might be more along that stretch, too.

In general, some of the places are relatively small. You might want to call ahead at least a few days in advance once you have a better idea of your schedule. And while Yellowstone will be less crowded than in the summer, I would at least call to ascertain the likely need for reservations there and in and around the Teetons.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
Contradiction in terms. I did a couple of days on the TA (Missoula to just east of Big Hole Pass) a few years ago and the section between Missoula and Fairplay, CO many years ago. There is indoor lodging in in Hamilton, Darby (campground that also has cabins), Wisdom, Jackson, Dillon, Twin Bridges, Ennis and W. Yellowstone and inside the park. Might be more along that stretch, too.

In general, some of the places are relatively small. You might want to call ahead at least a few days in advance once you have a better idea of your schedule. And while Yellowstone will be less crowded than in the summer, I would at least call to ascertain the likely need for reservations there and in and around the Teetons.
I plan to purchase the ACA maps. Do you, or anyone for that matter, know how good the info is regarding the lodging options?
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Originally Posted by gif4445
I plan to purchase the ACA maps. Do you, or anyone for that matter, know how good the info is regarding the lodging options?
It's very good in terms of listing the options, but the information does not give you any details about the places (i.e., size). The maps also contain phone numbers. Make sure you print the addenda from their web site. The maps themselves are not updated every year. Some places come and go. Names and phone numbers change. The addenda show changes reported by riders. E.g., "The No-Tell Motel in Hicksville, AL is now closed."
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