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Old 08-06-13, 07:21 AM
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Mirrors and Long Haul Trucker

Though any touring bike with drop handle bars and barend shifters would be great.
How do you attach a mirror? Also what brand?
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I put a Mountain Mirrycle on a single arm right under the brake with a light clamp. I still put it there even though I don't use bar-end shifters because I get a better view. Unlike the picture, it's clamped under the bar tape.
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My Cannondale T1 is equipped with drop bars and bar cons. I don't use a mirror on my bike because I subscibe to the theory that what you don't know or see can't hurt you. It seems to have worked so far. I'd be looking at a helmet mounted setup if I was in the market for a mirror. I have a number of friends who have gone that route with some success. Apparently there is a bit of a learning curve associated with a helmet mounted mirror but that soon passes. Best. Al
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I gave up looking for a mirror for my drop bars years ago, decided to go for a helmet mirror.

On my helmets that have a visor, I use a Third Eye model that clamps onto the visor. They call it the hard shell model, that name reflects that helmets many years ago often had a hard shell that the clamp went on. Works great. But, this might not work as well in countries where you drive (or ride) on the left side of the road, the mirror only fits on the left side of the helmet.
https://www.3rd-eye.com/

On my helmet that has no visor, I use a Sunlite one that has an adhesive fitting stuck to the helmet. The mirror then attaches to that part that stays on the helmet.
https://www.amazon.com/Sunlite-Sport-.../dp/B002MKDMZQ

Of the two, I prefer the Third Eye, it vibrates less than the Sunlite. Both allow removal from the helmet for when I get on an airplane and pack my helmet in my bag.

By mounting the mirrors on my helmet, I do not have to look down to look in my mirror, it is quicker to glance in the mirror this way than if I had to look down at my handlebars.

The disadvantage is when I have a sunset or sunrise behind me and the sun is in the mirror, then I have to move my head to one side slightly to get the sun out of my eyes.
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I use an older Rhode Gear mirror and love it.


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Try the "German Ultralite Mirror" they are really light and will fit just about anyplace you want to use it.

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Originally Posted by valygrl

+1

I just went through the same exercise finding a mirror for my daughter's LHT with bar end shifters. The Blackburn road mirror seems to fit well and is easy to install. it fits on the left brake hood and is secured with velvro. We leave on a short family tour Thursday, so I can actually tell you how she liked it in a couple of weeks. I also put a D & D Oberlauda mirror on our other daughter's bike. It also seems like a nice setup and works well with any kind of shifter or bars. It can be mounted just about any where. I think this is going to be a nice setup.
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I have that old Rhode Gear mirror and have not been able to find them anymore for my wife's bike. I hope it never breaks.

I'm trying this one right now and it's holding up but I'm pretty sure it won't last as long as the Rhode Gear and I'll have to steal it back from my wife. Thanks to others above for the links--I have a feeling I'll be buying another one soon.
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When my Rhode Gear bike mirrors broke after many useful years I replaced them with the German made Busch& Muller Cycle Star mirrors. Lots of mounting options and arm length for different needs.
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If you're the DIY type, you can mount a Mirrycle MTB mirror just about anywhere. I consider this model the best of all the mirrors I've tried.

Helmet and glass stem mirrors were a major irritant for a number of reasons to me, but many really seem to like them.
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Originally Posted by Erick L
I put a Mountain Mirrycle on a single arm right under the brake with a light clamp. I still put it there even though I don't use bar-end shifters because I get a better view. Unlike the picture, it's clamped under the bar tape.
Erick's suggestion is excellent, and has worked very well for me. Here is my incarnation of Erick's method: https://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/p...093&size=large

The Mirrycle mirror is by far the best I've used, and you can even buy replacement mirrors at a reasonable cost (around $5).
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Originally Posted by andrewclaus
I have that old Rhode Gear mirror and have not been able to find them anymore for my wife's bike. I hope it never breaks.

I'm trying this one right now and it's holding up but I'm pretty sure it won't last as long as the Rhode Gear and I'll have to steal it back from my wife. Thanks to others above for the links--I have a feeling I'll be buying another one soon.
We have used the Mirrycle mirror on 4 of our bikes. We have STI shifters, and they fit really nice on the shifter. They have been pretty durable. I did break the actual glass part of the mirror, but replacement parts were easy to get and inexpensive. I think my wife is using one of the original mirrors on her bike, which just turned over 8,000 miles. I'm not sure what her older bike, the one the mirror came off of, had but it was probably about the same. Most of that was actual touring. I do take the mirrors off when boxing the bikes for shipping, even on Amtrak. As you know, it only takes a couple of minutes to mount and remove the mirror on STI lervers.

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Don't get me wrong. Mirrors could save your butt. Just remember if someone is about to hit you...they are about to hit you...they didn't hit you so it's not a hit and run if you throw yourself into the ditch to keep them from hitting you. They have to hit you for it to be considered as a hit and run. Police won't do a thing unless you are actually hit by the vehicle. Talk to the police they will tell that. Last year a guy in Michigan threw himself into the ditch after he saw a vehicle was about to hit him in his mirror. The guy basically ended up in a body cast and he is responsible for paying the medical bills as he was never hit by the vehicle in question. The police can't file any charges against the guy...even if they did find the guy...the guy never hit him. You may stay alive by throwing yourself into a ditch and be paralyzed from the neck down for the rest of your life because you swerved to avoid the crash but it's on your dime and not the other person that was about to hit you because he never hit you.

As is rather obvious...I don't have a mirror on my bike. Don't want one either.
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On my Cannondale touring bike, I use the EVO Sport mirror + 35mm EVO Extension from here:
https://www.calhouncycle.com/productc...=9&pageStyle=H

On my road bike, I use their EVO M Mirror
https://www.calhouncycle.com/productc...ror-9p1328.htm

I have tried the Mirrycle Road Mirror, and found that because of the way it's mounted, it vibrates so much on the road that it's not very usable. The mounting was also not very durable. FWIW.

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This one was the only one I could find, that worked for bar end shifters, when I had them. Great mirror.
https://www.axiomgear.com/products/ge...dlx-universal/
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Originally Posted by valygrl


+1 - I've used one on my LHT for years. Works fine and I prefer a bike mounted mirror to one on my helmet.
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Happy user of a Zefal Spy Mirror on all my drop bar bikes.





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Originally Posted by irwin7638
Try the "German Ultralite Mirror" they are really light and will fit just about anyplace you want to use it.

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+1 Another vote for this!
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This is the Blackburn Road Mirror mounted on my daughter's LHT. She thought it worked out well. It was easy to install or remove, and pretty durable.


Our other daughter tried out the D+D Oberlauda mirror on this same trip. Once we got it adjusted correctly, it seemed to work OK. It had to be mounted on the bar directly underneath the brake lever hood so it would not interfere with hand position while braking when riding on the drops. However, it felt flimsy compared to the Balackburn or the Mirrycle mirrors. I told them both they were "product testers" and to be critical in their reviews.

IMO--With bar end shifters the Mirrcycle will not work, and I'd choose the Blackburn over the D+D. I could not find a source of repair parts for the D+D and I see some potential issues with the mounting strap if it is taken off and reinstalled on the bike very often.

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I used the Rhode Gear ones for years and years. Broke one in a crash due to home furnace oil spilled on the road in a curve, thought it was water. Bought another but havent used it since using a sti bike because the hoods are much fatter than non sti hoods.

Use a helmet mounted one now, never thought I would like them (avoided them forever) but quickly here are my opinions of the advantages of helmet mirrors.

1-less vibration due to ones body absorbing lots of road vibration going through frame and bars, clearer image more often.
2-the mirror I use, Take a Look model, is not convex, so gives a truer distance view of stuff behind you.
3-allows me to slightly turn my head to get a diff angled view, handy in a curve where you can get a bit more time heads up on someone coming behind you while you are in a corner, example of being able to see that a car or truck is running wide coming into the curve behind you.
4-you can still see whats going on while standing (in a corner no less too!)
5-change bikes like I do and the mirror is always there
6-you can switch it easily to the other side if in the UK or wherever (I put mine on my visor, holds on very well)
7-I personally find it a bit faster just glancing to my left to see in mirror rather than looking down to either the hoods position or bar ends. Again, I used the hood mirror for ages but now prefer this.

I ride in a city environment a lot, so #s 3, 4 and 7 are pretty important in situations where stuff happens really fast and it helps immensely to be aware of what is going on around you all the time. Montreal riding on city streets can be "challenging" so to speak, so I'll take any advantage I can get, and every tenth of a second more of a heads up for stuff.

Back to hood mounted ones, I second the advantage of the velcro attached ones for being easier to take off if having to get through a narrow door, putting the bike inside a car or whatever.

The velcro also has the advantage of having some "give" for when your bike falls over, my old touring bike fell over numerous times over the years and Im certain that not being solidly attached helped the mirror and mount not bend or break simply because it would shift somewhat. As I said, mine broke finally when I went down hard at a good clip onto pavement but up until then had survived pretty well.
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Originally Posted by PlanoFuji
+1 Another vote for this!
Same here.

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Originally Posted by bikenh
Don't get me wrong. Mirrors could save your butt. Just remember if someone is about to hit you...they are about to hit you...they didn't hit you so it's not a hit and run if you throw yourself into the ditch to keep them from hitting you. They have to hit you for it to be considered as a hit and run. Police won't do a thing unless you are actually hit by the vehicle. Talk to the police they will tell that. Last year a guy in Michigan threw himself into the ditch after he saw a vehicle was about to hit him in his mirror. The guy basically ended up in a body cast and he is responsible for paying the medical bills as he was never hit by the vehicle in question. The police can't file any charges against the guy...even if they did find the guy...the guy never hit him. You may stay alive by throwing yourself into a ditch and be paralyzed from the neck down for the rest of your life because you swerved to avoid the crash but it's on your dime and not the other person that was about to hit you because he never hit you.

As is rather obvious...I don't have a mirror on my bike. Don't want one either.
Compare the likely significance of your injury for getting hit by a car or truck to that of you taking a spill into a ditch. In the first case you're hit with the momentum of perhaps 2500 lbs. moving at 60 mph. In the 2nd case the impact is more like 200 lbs. hitting a less hard surface at an angle instead of head-on (heading into a ditch you might keep the bike upright or just tumble and role instead of make a sudden stop).

When you go the ditch route you don't get the satisfaction of legal consequences against the driver. But when you let somebody hit you from behind you're more likely to die or be permanently disabled.

Which do you prefer?
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Originally Posted by Walter S
Compare the likely significance of your injury for getting hit by a car or truck to that of you taking a spill into a ditch. In the first case you're hit with the momentum of perhaps 2500 lbs. moving at 60 mph. In the 2nd case the impact is more like 200 lbs. hitting a less hard surface at an angle instead of head-on (heading into a ditch you might keep the bike upright or just tumble and role instead of make a sudden stop).

When you go the ditch route you don't get the satisfaction of legal consequences against the driver. But when you let somebody hit you from behind you're more likely to die or be permanently disabled.

Which do you prefer?
+ 1

With the ready availability of a wide variety of excellent mirrors at reasonable prices, I am totally baffled why anyone would choose to blind themselves to what is certainly the most vulnerable (and arguably the most dangerous) 180 degrees of situational awareness territory while cycling on the road.
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Having a mirror is also GREAT when you are touring with companions, and want to see how much the group has split up. Beats looking over your shoulder.
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