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Cyclebum 09-21-13 04:23 PM

Takes me about an hour after crawling out of the tent to hit the road if I cook breakfast and if solo. No problem as I'm usually gonna pedal only about 5-6 hours anyway. About 15 minutes if in a hurry. If with others, can take two hours before all are ready to leave. That's a bit tedious.

gpsblake 09-22-13 12:50 AM

I got into a routine when I did my month long tour. The one enemy was tent getting wet, especially on the bottom with all the dirt too. I would dry out my tent around lunch time. I am going to be doing some overnight tours using a hammock, that seems to be really simple to put up and take down. I have to admit, I didn't like packing the mornings.

mdilthey 09-22-13 11:34 AM

On my first tour, I used a hammock and kept everything in one stuff sack strapped to my rear rack. It was simple but very tedious to tie out the hammock perfectly every night (or risk touching the ground) and then stuffing clothes, hammock, and air mattress into the stuff sack and then attaching it perfectly to the rack. Being lazy just meant it would come loose while I was riding.

On my second tour, I kept a stuff sack for clothing for specific conditions (like cold) strapped to the front rack, but I used two panniers to hold everything else because they saved so much time. I stopped using stuff sacks for most stuff.

I cleaned up my hammock setup by making it modular. Instead of a one-piece Hennessy, I now have a separate hammock, bug net, and rain fly. I just use the pieces I need on a given night. I also simplified the guy-lines for the rain fly, ditched the ridgeline, and I use woopie slings to adjust the tension, which is much faster. Instead of tying complicated knots between my straps and the hammock, I use two simple aluminum carabiners.

Look for lots of tiny solutions, and it adds up to a lot of time saved.

andrewclaus 09-23-13 06:03 AM


Originally Posted by mdilthey (Post 16092382)
...On my second tour, I kept a stuff sack for clothing for specific conditions (like cold) strapped to the front rack, but I used two panniers to hold everything else because they saved so much time. I stopped using stuff sacks for most stuff...Look for lots of tiny solutions, and it adds up to a lot of time saved.

Thank you for this comment about the two panniers, because it reinforces my attempts at packing simpler. I really tried to get everything to fit in one sack but couldn't get it to work well. I've stayed with the two panniers. Despite the relative weight of the panniers (four pounds to carry 13 pounds of stuff), I'm happy with the flexibility, and durability.

But I will keep looking for enough tiny solutions to allow me to ditch the heavy panniers, like some do. I'm just not quite there yet. That's good advice.

stevage 09-23-13 05:01 PM

Weird, I really enjoy the ritual of packing up, having done it so many times. There's a regular order: Deflate sleeping mat. Pack sleeping bag. Pack sleeping mat. Get dressed. Leave tent. Remove everything from tent. Collapse tent and hang to dry if needed. Eat breakfast. Pack everything. Pack tent.

(The order is mostly about making the campsite uninhabitable as quick as possible, to stop me going back to bed :))

digibud 09-27-13 03:10 AM

Really? Breaking camp gets you borderline over heated? Seriously? As you get up to face a day of....a few thousand feet of climbing...or riding into a 30mph wind....or taking a short cut over a 12% grade....you're thinking that breaking camp is a big deal?
I'm dumbfounded. We are all very unique in our approaches.
I think you need to find some past time that will help you build your cardio/endurance. Hmmmm, what could that be.... bwahahhah

nun 09-27-13 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by stevage (Post 16096749)
There's a regular order: Deflate sleeping mat. Pack sleeping bag. Pack sleeping mat. Get dressed. Leave tent. Remove everything from tent. Collapse tent and hang to dry if needed. Eat breakfast. Pack everything. Pack tent.

Immediatley after I get up and dressed I pack my sleeping bag and mat and then open up the tent door to get some airflow inside to get rid of condensation. Then I take a shower etc. When I get back I'll make tea and eat something like cookies or porridge if I'm not intending to have breakfast in a diner. After breakfast I rinse my mug and cup and arrange all my gear ready to go into the saddlebag. I check any washing I did the night before and decide whether to pack it or hang it off the saddlebag to dry some more. Then I'll wipe the tent fly down inside and out (if it's still damp), remove the carbon struts from the back and pack them in a bag with the pole and stakes and paxk the fly into a compression sack. Then pack the saddelbag.

Ronno6 09-27-13 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by digibud (Post 16108549)
Really? Breaking camp gets you borderline over heated? Seriously?

Yessir. That is correct.


As you get up to face a day of....a few thousand feet of climbing...or riding into a 30mph wind....or taking a short cut over a 12% grade....you're thinking that breaking camp is a big deal?
That's just the way it is...


I'm dumbfounded. We are all very unique in our approaches.
That didn't take much...


I think you need to find some past time that will help you build your cardio/endurance. Hmmmm, what could that be.... bwahahhah
Thanks for the suggestion. My cardio/endurance is just fine, thank you.
It just seems that breaking camp requires more exertion than peddling a 30# bike loaded with 50# of gear at 15mph for 6hrs a day.
Go figure...........

digibud 09-27-13 06:15 PM

Before I lost a bunch of weight one of my worst days was a long day of canoeing followed by setting up a campsite with tents and tarps. It was exhausting. Your post got a chuckle from me but the reply was meant with humor... I still think it' funny :) to see breaking camp as a challenge but I'm also not many years from it being a -real- challenge :).

Ronno6 09-28-13 06:03 AM

I knew that. ;-) Thanks.
I am quite a bit lighter now than I was on my most recent tours, and am looking forward to the fall thru the spring to tour some more.
Maybe my biggest challenge was all the standing/kneeling associated with breaking camp and packing up, and the fact that I am not warmed up
at all in the morning. Dunno. But, as I said, I have not problems setting things up even after a long day in the saddle, warmed up but tired.
I am shortly going to begin "practicing" here at home in hopes of developing a routine that does not tax me so much.
I have a tentative tour for early December with an experienced touring cyclist. Maybe he can provide some pointers.


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