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Old 10-31-13, 02:12 PM
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Chinese Touring Bicycle Frame (non-carbon)

I have noticed there are people who have bought cheap chinese made carbon fiber bikes (not necessary for touring), but what about getting a cheap chinese touring bicycle frameset? Is there even such a thing?

I currently have a 1993 Trek 1200 road bike, but it isn't suitable for touring. I was looking to get a new frame and thought that there might be some chinese touring bicycle framesets.

What you guys think?

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Old 10-31-13, 03:46 PM
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thats where Nashbar gets theirs .. Taiwan is AKA ROC.
and so most frames are from One China, or the other PRC ..

so anything from Salsa , Surly or SOMA will be imported from companies There.

very few huge factories making Multiple Brands.. under contract.
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Old 10-31-13, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
thats where Nashbar gets theirs .. Taiwan is AKA ROC.
and so most frames are from One China, or the other PRC ..
Nashbar has a great deal on their frames, but they don't seem to have anything in stock except for some 50cm touring bike.
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Old 10-31-13, 03:50 PM
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They are, probably waiting for the Next Container load of frames to Land at The POE, and get offloaded.

there will be a restocking.
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Old 10-31-13, 04:40 PM
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are you looking for a chinese branded bike or one made in PRC, which will be many
I'm not sure of you pricepoint, but I always felt the Bruce Gordon BLTs on sale now at $500 for the frame was a good deal, I almost bought a 26" size a few years back, http://www.bgcycles.com/blt.html

if you are looking for a Chinese branded bike, there are few to be found, I recently went to China and was in search of Ti frames, but none were to be found except high end stores selling western brands at twice the price. Though many bike are made in China they don't make it into the Chinese market as there is no demand, most have older steel comfort bikes or aluminum ones weighing a ton.

I personally like 4130 cro-moly for my long distance bikes, I tried to explain that to a bike shop in China and they had no clue, steel was steel to them
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I think chinese manfucaturing is it a very high level now, I don't think "made in china" is once the condemnation it used to be, just like how something being "made in japan" was once a detriment, and now a selling point.
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Old 10-31-13, 08:18 PM
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Made in Japan stuff is good because labour rates are very high there.

edit: though I think you are correct otherwise
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The importers invested in the contract manufacturers, and then they had the Capital
to upgrade their manufacturing Tooling , to make more sophisticated stuff..

to supply the importing bike companies ..


Made in Japan stuff is* good because labour rates are very high there.
*was , very little in the mass market, now, Taipei offers better prices..
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But presumably he is talking about custom?
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Originally Posted by MassiveD View Post
But presumably he is talking about custom?
Actually, no I am not.
Brand-Name Carbon Fiber bikes are in the $1000s, but these chinese knock-offs are half or 2/3s the price of a brand name frame. I was looking to see if any vendor was doing something similar with the steel touring style. I mean, why not?
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Originally Posted by davidg1982 View Post
Actually, no I am not.
Brand-Name Carbon Fiber bikes are in the $1000s, but these chinese knock-offs are half or 2/3s the price of a brand name frame. I was looking to see if any vendor was doing something similar with the steel touring style. I mean, why not?
Surly's LHT frameset can be had for about $450 brand new. How much cheaper are you hoping for?
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No idea. I am only asking what is available.
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You can get the nashbar for around 75 bucks with all the coupons, so yes you can. You can get a custom for a lot less from china, or you can even sometimes get ones from here for 500-700.

The Nashbar frame, that I am currently building out is a touring frame, but not a bog standard one like a Surly, it is a little different in shape with certain MTB influence. I reviewed the frame in a dedicated post a few months back.
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Originally Posted by qclabrat View Post
I personally like 4130 cro-moly for my long distance bikes, I tried to explain that to a bike shop in China and they had no clue, steel was steel to them
I'd say you'd get a similar reaction in the vast majority of western shops as well lol
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Old 11-01-13, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by davidg1982 View Post
Actually, no I am not.
Brand-Name Carbon Fiber bikes are in the $1000s, but these chinese knock-offs are half or 2/3s the price of a brand name frame. I was looking to see if any vendor was doing something similar with the steel touring style. I mean, why not?
how about:

http://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?spm...id=35672049141

[The 2013 / LKLM cheerful globetrotters 700C steel ultra-long-haul touring bike V brake]

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=...id=26223880388

[Genuine wind Windspeed long wagon frame steel frame with chrome-molybdenum steel bicycle fork]

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=...id=20233538633

[WS LongRiders trekking bike steel rustproof steel handle 4130 chrome-molybdenum steel frame]

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=...id=18706510752

[lklm trekking retro bicycle frame cheerful Global 700c compact Connaught ultralight steel fork frame]
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I recently bought a Nashbar Touring frame to replace a frame I damaged; nice build, no issues with the tubing, welds, threads, etc. However, make sure you look at the sizing, as its not similar to what other manufacturer's frames. I bought 60cm, but it seems Nashbar measures their bikes basd on the very top of the seattube, not where the top tube intersects the seat tube. This makes the bike more like a 56cm frame. In my case the headtube is really short, 165mm vs 200-210mm for most other brands. I had to put a whole bunch of spacers on the steerer to get the handlebars high enough for me to be comfy. And the top tube is really long - 62cm - so my build required a really short stem (60cm). Overall a well constructed frame at a great price frame and matching fork were $107 on sale), but watch the sizing.

Weights: Bare 60cm frame is 3lbs 8oz, fork is a real 'piggy' at 2 lbs 10 oz (all steel with a 300mm uncut steerer tube).
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