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How can I point my headlight up some on my Surly with a "nice" front rack?

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Old 11-17-13, 07:48 AM
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How can I point my headlight up some on my Surly with a "nice" front rack?

I took a spill on my bike recently. In the process my headlight was slightly damaged. But now it points too low. I need to light up the pavement further down the road than it will now.

This was built for me last year. Look at the photo I took and you can see that the body of the headlight will not tilt up further. If you try then the back hits the fitting on the front of the nice rack to which the headlight is bolted. This was a very tight fit from the very start - i.e. it has always been at the top of the adjustment. But the light pointed up enough and so I was OK even though it was pointed up as far as it would go.

Now something is a little bent. Not sure what. I'm not too mechanically inclined. I can do basic stuff and follow directions but...

I've considered putting it in a vice and trying to bend the metal arms to which the plastic body of the light is mounted. But if I bend them up it seems like that won't help because the body of the light will still hit that black piece on the Surly rack that everything is mounted to.

Any ideas out there?



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Old 11-17-13, 07:51 AM
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looks like the light mount was bent a little. Might have to take the light out of its mount and bend that
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Old 11-17-13, 07:52 AM
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Funny, I thought about this for days before I made that post. And suddenly I realize I probably need to bend the arms down, not up. If I bend them down the light would initially point more down of course. But it will move away from the rack and let me tilt the light further up. duh....

I'll give that a try and see how it works.
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Old 11-17-13, 08:07 AM
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Strange how helpful asking for help can be. Even without waiting for an answer. I didn't even need to dismount the light. I just grabbed it all in my hand and bent the whole unit away from the rack. Now there's plenty of room to loosen the light and point it up higher, as I've done. I'll need to wait for a dark setting to get it right.
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The first thing I would try is mounting the bracket on the front of that threaded fitting on the rack instead of on the back. Your light would be farther forward by maybe an inch, not sure if that would be problematic or not.

I am guessing you are trying to keep your light low so that it does not interfere with anything you put on the rack platform. If that is not an issue, you might try turning the light bracket upside down and re-installing teh light on the bracket that way.

I would not try to bend the rack, that is more expensive than a light bracket.

I have made some light brackets out of strap steel or strap aluminum, but sounds like you do not want to construct a new bracket.
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Can just loosen the handlebar clamp and rise the bracket up
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The first thing I would try is mounting the bracket on the front of that threaded fitting on the rack instead of on the back. Your light would be farther forward by maybe an inch, not sure if that would be problematic or not.

I am guessing you are trying to keep your light low so that it does not interfere with anything you put on the rack platform. If that is not an issue, you might try turning the light bracket upside down and re-installing teh light on the bracket that way.

I would not try to bend the rack, that is more expensive than a light bracket.

I have made some light brackets out of strap steel or strap aluminum, but sounds like you do not want to construct a new bracket.
Thanks. I thought I had it figured out but no. I was not trying to bend the rack. I was bending the bracket. But I don't have a bench vise and can't seem to get it bent the right way. I'll work with your suggestion and see what I can do.
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Can just loosen the handlebar clamp and rise the bracket up
Don't know what you mean. There's no handlebar involved. Just the rack, bracket, light.
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Don't know what you mean. There's no handlebar involved. Just the rack, bracket, light.
I think he was confused as the photo appears to have handle bar drops. Can you rotate the bracket on the rack upwards?

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I think he was confused as the photo appears to have handle bar drops. Can you rotate the bracket on the rack upwards?

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I finally got it fixed by bending the bracket just right. It's back to the way it was originally, at the top of its allowable range but high enough nevertheless. I prefer it mounted like it is. It doesn't stick out as far and stays under the rack so I can slide stuff on from the front.

Thanks for the comments everybody.
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I think he was confused as the photo appears to have handle bar drops. Can you rotate the bracket on the rack upwards?

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While I thought I had fixed it, that comment was premature. Ultimately I did exactly as you suggested. Rotate the bracket on the rack. I grabbed it with channel locks and slowly applied effort till it slipped a little bit. The bracket is a tight sleeve around the bar of the rack. I was afraid of breaking something, and I guess risked doing just that. But it lurched a bit under pressure and that was all I needed. I guess this is some kind of sleeve that gets slipped around the bar while the rack is being assembled? There's no weld there.

Now there's gobs of adjustment, and I can point the headlight both too high and of course too low - but also just right :-)

Thanks for the suggestion.
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