how do you get the crap off the plastic ground cloth every morning ?

It stays in the air above the tent/bike, so doesn't really pick up that much crap. The only time it gets dirty is when I roll it up on the ground. If I'm careful I can keep it rather clean. It does get wet, but with any luck it's not raining in the morning and I can hang it up to dry for a few minutes. If the wind is blowing (which unfortunately always seems to be the case with me), the plastic sheet dries out really quickly.

It works so well I don't bring a fly for the tent. The tarp works as the fly; it also keeps the bike dry and gives me a dry place to sit outside the tent during the inevitable rain storm.

I was the nervous the first time I tried this system, but the plastic sheet is surprisingly durable. They cost about $1.50 and you can find them in any hardware store. On the ride home from Alaska I replaced the first one in Cranbrook, BC (2500 miles) and the second one made it all the way home to Colorado. I did borrow a piece of duct tape to patch a hole in Montana and another piece in Jackson, WY.

The photo below is the last campsite of the trip; Buena Vista, CO.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=357214

It's a little tough to see in this tiny photo... how do I upload a photo that appears larger than a thumbnail?

Past plastic sheet use ( Walmart painters') had several on hand. If one sheet was sanded, no water for washing off then I threw it away, opened a new one.

But long distance away from Walmart ( a new wilderness definition...where's the map :lol: ) ?

using a real tough coated nylon ground cloth, more likely to shed sand, less electrostatic clinging, but $$$, looms as probable. Eyow, factory tarps are expensive.

Sand tears the &Hi#234 out f tent floors. Five nights and no floor.

I am using the new version of kit de strapping which is quite impressive.

2 bungee cords holding my fairly well balanced dry bag, it works well for me.

I keep my daytime needs in an Arkel Tailrider and a small handlbar bag (added since this picture). Everything else for the night goes in four dry bags. Sure, a little tedious to mount each morning with straps, but maybe two minutes longer. http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=454473

that is an elegant setup

LBS with a QBP account? check out Surly Junk straps.. ask them to order them,