Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Touring
Reload this Page >

Lightweight Touring/Camping - ~2 kg Sleeping Setup

Notices
Touring Have a dream to ride a bike across your state, across the country, or around the world? Self-contained or fully supported? Trade ideas, adventures, and more in our bicycle touring forum.

Lightweight Touring/Camping - ~2 kg Sleeping Setup

Old 04-06-14, 10:08 AM
  #1  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
vijinho's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: England - West Midlands
Posts: 76

Bikes: 2016 Kinesis Tripster ATR V1 grave/touring, 2014 Charge Plug 4 touring modded, 2014 BeOne Road Bike

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Lightweight Touring/Camping - ~2 kg Sleeping Setup

Having got a lot of helpful advice and information from these forums for my upcoming summer trip(s) I thought that I can now share and give something back to the community here.

* 1kg Coleman Biker 2 Sleeping Bag Coleman - Biker
* 315g Lifeventure Hammock - Lifeventure - Travel Products and sleepgear | Backpacking Kit | Cooking Equipment | Camping Equipment
* 680g Carinthia Mountain Bivy Bag - Bivy bag - COMBAT | carinthiashop.com

I got everything discounted from a couple co.UK websites (Amazon, Wiggle)

Thanks for everyone who helped me here. I had posted before, but my touring bike setup is described here: New Touring Bike | another blog, yeah, whatever... (Added cross-top levers and new brake pads to the blog post since I originally posted here)

Last edited by vijinho; 04-06-14 at 10:18 AM.
vijinho is offline  
Old 04-06-14, 10:00 PM
  #2  
Clark W. Griswold
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: ,location, location
Posts: 13,467

Bikes: Foundry Chilkoot Ti W/Ultegra Di2, Salsa Timberjack Ti, Cinelli Mash Work RandoCross Fun Time Machine, 1x9 XT Parts Hybrid, Co-Motion Cascadia, Specialized Langster, Phil Wood Apple VeloXS Frame (w/DA 7400), R+M Supercharger2 Rohloff, Habanero Ti 26

Mentioned: 54 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4335 Post(s)
Liked 3,958 Times in 2,646 Posts
Originally Posted by vijinho
Having got a lot of helpful advice and information from these forums for my upcoming summer trip(s) I thought that I can now share and give something back to the community here.

* 1kg Coleman Biker 2 Sleeping Bag Coleman - Biker
* 315g Lifeventure Hammock - Lifeventure - Travel Products and sleepgear | Backpacking Kit | Cooking Equipment | Camping Equipment
* 680g Carinthia Mountain Bivy Bag - Bivy bag - COMBAT | carinthiashop.com

I got everything discounted from a couple co.UK websites (Amazon, Wiggle)

Thanks for everyone who helped me here. I had posted before, but my touring bike setup is described here: New Touring Bike | another blog, yeah, whatever... (Added cross-top levers and new brake pads to the blog post since I originally posted here)
I want to shave some grams, lots of 'em. This is purely an exercise for my fun and not intended to offend or anything I am just a little gear obsessed and am frequently around gram/ounce shavers:

635.03g Mountain Hardwear Ultra Lamina 45 UltraLamina? 45 (Regular) | MountainHardwear.com (about $160 USD more than the Coleman)

167.829g ENO ProNest Hammock, Slap Strap Pro, Guardian Bug Net Pronest Hammock from Eagles Nest Outfitters Inc. - Lightweight Outdoor Parachute Nylon Hammocks along with optional Slap Straps Hammock Suspension. (about $83 USD more than the Lifeventure but added a bug net)
54.431g Mountain Hardwear Dry.Q Bivvy Dry.Q? Bivy | MountainHardwear.com (About $229 USD cheaper than the Carinthia but Gore-Tex tends to be pricey and they keep a tight control over their product)

For the Metrics in all of us:
875.29g

For the Americano's the poundage is as follows:
1lb 14.875oz


Here is what I used to find prices for the gear (I avoided stuff where I was unsure of price conversion used or couldn't get an accurate read):
Coleman Biker 2 Season camp sleeping bag Modell 1150, L black camp sleeping bag: Amazon.co.uk: Sports & Outdoors
Lifeventure Sleeplight Hammock
Carinthia Mountain Bag :: Army Navy Store

Hopefully I didn't completely screw up on the pricing. If not for $14 USD more you could have cut down a lot of grams. However again this was purely for my fun and obsession.

Anywho hope you have fun on your summer trips and your gear works out well. All this research has got me wanting to cut down my weight more.

Also glad that this forum is helpful, I hope to both learn and provide what knowledge I have and so far most folks here are good folks with a similar passion and cannot beat that : )

Last edited by veganbikes; 04-06-14 at 10:01 PM. Reason: forgot to close out a parentheses
veganbikes is offline  
Old 04-07-14, 01:07 AM
  #3  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
vijinho's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: England - West Midlands
Posts: 76

Bikes: 2016 Kinesis Tripster ATR V1 grave/touring, 2014 Charge Plug 4 touring modded, 2014 BeOne Road Bike

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
That's awesome, thanks for sharing! Do you know of a good sleeping mat BTW in case the hammock doesn't work out? I read about one hardcore guy who uses bubble-wrap and said it's good for 40 nights before needing replacement. One thing to note - I think that the hammock you found doesn't come with straps/hooks included so the weight would be more.

Last edited by vijinho; 04-07-14 at 01:40 AM.
vijinho is offline  
Old 04-07-14, 09:33 AM
  #4  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 793
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 71 Post(s)
Liked 13 Times in 11 Posts
Originally Posted by vijinho
That's awesome, thanks for sharing! Do you know of a good sleeping mat BTW in case the hammock doesn't work out? I read about one hardcore guy who uses bubble-wrap and said it's good for 40 nights before needing replacement. One thing to note - I think that the hammock you found doesn't come with straps/hooks included so the weight would be more.
Some of the Klymit 3/4 air pads are 7 oz (175g).
stevepusser is offline  
Old 04-07-14, 09:39 AM
  #5  
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: NW,Oregon Coast
Posts: 43,598

Bikes: 8

Mentioned: 197 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7607 Post(s)
Liked 1,355 Times in 862 Posts
Goose down will pack smaller , and its the insulation synthetics try to be..

For sleeping bags .... and there is the Exped down filled air mattress ..


An air only air mattress will give away body heat to the ground.. insulation under you wont.

Last edited by fietsbob; 04-08-14 at 10:06 AM.
fietsbob is offline  
Old 04-07-14, 10:30 AM
  #6  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
vijinho's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: England - West Midlands
Posts: 76

Bikes: 2016 Kinesis Tripster ATR V1 grave/touring, 2014 Charge Plug 4 touring modded, 2014 BeOne Road Bike

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Nice. Just found this in a local shop actually. Will try out and decide whether to take this or both.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg
IMAG0703.jpg (99.8 KB, 10 views)
vijinho is offline  
Old 04-07-14, 09:52 PM
  #7  
Clark W. Griswold
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: ,location, location
Posts: 13,467

Bikes: Foundry Chilkoot Ti W/Ultegra Di2, Salsa Timberjack Ti, Cinelli Mash Work RandoCross Fun Time Machine, 1x9 XT Parts Hybrid, Co-Motion Cascadia, Specialized Langster, Phil Wood Apple VeloXS Frame (w/DA 7400), R+M Supercharger2 Rohloff, Habanero Ti 26

Mentioned: 54 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4335 Post(s)
Liked 3,958 Times in 2,646 Posts
Originally Posted by vijinho
That's awesome, thanks for sharing! Do you know of a good sleeping mat BTW in case the hammock doesn't work out? I read about one hardcore guy who uses bubble-wrap and said it's good for 40 nights before needing replacement. One thing to note - I think that the hammock you found doesn't come with straps/hooks included so the weight would be more.

The Hammock I listed was with straps and bug net included in weight. The Pro Nest is their lightest hammock and I also went with the lighter straps (though the Atlas straps are a little nicer) I wouldn't leave out the important stuff because then the hammock is useless. The carabiners come attached to the hammock and you might find lighter ones but the aluminum wiregates they come with are plenty light (though I know people who will shave a miniscule amount if they can).

Klymit makes some pretty light stuff but I like Therm-a-Rest a lot and their NeoAir X-Lite small is 8oz. You could also get a bit more comfort and go with the Prolite which is self-inflating and 8oz for extra small (and from what some of my co-workers/ultralight thru hiking friends say you really only need the mat under you back). If you want more coverage you are adding on a few extra ounces (sorry I didn't do the conversion this time). Some people use foam pads cut in half. I have a cheaper Big Agnes but I plan on switching that out for a Prolite and probably donating the Big Agnes or keeping it for a spare and friends to borrow. I am more concerned about comfort so having a bit of foam is nice.

I saw bubble wrap man and I can dig his style but he has cut so much weight out he is semi credit-card touring and that is a different style that doesn't fit my bill. Cutting down weight is great but sacrificing that much just seems crazy.

I am not a fan of down for various reasons. From a gear based standpoint it doesn't keep warm when wet and when wet can get stinky. It is also harder to dry on the road and generally requires more care than synthetics. From an ethical standpoint some is being exploited to get their feathers. Also some down is treated with chemicals to make it more water resistant which could break down the down and from what I have heard from reps is it doesn't last as well as untreated feathers.

Yes it can compress well and yes it can cut down some weight but when someone else is harmed physically to get something I would avoid it. Live and let live! If nobody was harmed for the making of the product I still would probably choose synthetics because I get hot easily and then sweat a lot and wet down is bad news bears.
veganbikes is offline  
Old 04-08-14, 12:36 AM
  #8  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 2,441
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 33 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times in 3 Posts
Closed cell foam is super comfortable, I use it all year round. Bubble wrap sounds pretty desperate. Another thing that works are a few squares of those kid matts, that fit together with dovtails.

Really try out the hammock before you go. They are super uncomfortable for some people. I used to watch this one guy's blog, he put up a video every day, and half the time he was sacked out in a hammock at some point. He was buying and testing all kinds of hammock gear. At one point he says "hey maybe this will be the one I can sleep through the night in". More common that it sounds, just as there are probably a lot of guys who never race their bikes or are any good at it, but have pedals for taps in their bathroom, etc...
MassiveD is offline  
Old 04-08-14, 05:40 AM
  #9  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
vijinho's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: England - West Midlands
Posts: 76

Bikes: 2016 Kinesis Tripster ATR V1 grave/touring, 2014 Charge Plug 4 touring modded, 2014 BeOne Road Bike

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Yeah definitely will try out the hammock before I leave for my trip, planning to go out into nature (thankfully lots of that in Sweden!) in some forest by some lake and spend a night out with a couple of friends who also like cycling/camping. This is the website of the ultra-light bubble-wrap dude: Ultralight bicycle touring
vijinho is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
MarcusT
Touring
115
03-05-19 12:53 PM
Fritzov
Touring
81
01-09-18 09:21 AM
Wheelmonkey
Touring
51
02-17-13 11:24 PM
chefisaac
Touring
51
08-30-12 06:11 AM
Lspade
Touring
90
08-12-11 10:06 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.