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Old 04-06-14, 01:01 PM
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Considering a 400+mile tour. Am I prepared?

I plan on possibly riding 236-miles to and from Oklahoma city(400+mile total) this summer for a concert. However, I'm a 205lb rider on an aluminum-framed Trek 7.1fx. I've got about 3,000-miles on it so far. Do I need to be worried about my frame? Also, what do I need to know for a trip of this distance?
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what kind of daily miles do you do,do you intend to take a couple or more days each way to cover those miles.60 miles a day is good 13mph average gives you time to smell the roses and enjoy the trip.
must be a good concert enjoy.
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what kind of daily miles do you do,do you intend to take a couple or more days each way to cover those miles.60 miles a day is good 13mph average gives you time to smell the roses and enjoy the trip.
must be a good concert enjoy.
I'm considering doing a double century plus on the way there. So 236-miles within 24-hours. But then on the way back, I'm probably just going to relax.
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Originally Posted by Isaiahc72
I plan on possibly riding 236-miles to and from Oklahoma city(400+mile total) this summer for a concert. However, I'm a 205lb rider on an aluminum-framed Trek 7.1fx. I've got about 3,000-miles on it so far. Do I need to be worried about my frame? Also, what do I need to know for a trip of this distance?
The 7.1FX makes a good trekking conversion, it has chainstays on the longer side and lowrider mounts on the fork. When I did a conversion I was unhappy with the location of the rack mounts but was able to remedy it with a seatpost clamp with rack mounts.


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I'm considering doing a double century plus on the way there. So 236-miles within 24-hours. But then on the way back, I'm probably just going to relax.
Do you regularly do centuries? Do you have someone else that will carry your gear (for the return trip) to the concert.
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Originally Posted by Isaiahc72
I'm considering doing a double century plus on the way there. So 236-miles within 24-hours. But then on the way back, I'm probably just going to relax.
If you've done that sort of distance before it's certainly possible.

I weigh about 250 and did 191 miles in 18 hours, including rest stops, yesterday with a loaded pannier (I'd taken far too much stuff along). I'd expect your frame can take whatever you're going to throw at it.

In terms of what you need to know, make sure you eat and drink enough. If you don't you're likely to suffer. If you haven't done a century before then a double century is likely to be more than you can cope with - I remember the first time I rode 80 miles in a day I expected it to be easy because I'd often done 40 miles in an afternoon. The difference was I had more hills to contend with and all the assorted discomforts that accumulate with time in the saddle built up to the point I was having to stop every 10 minutes to get feeling back in my hands.
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I've done a century. I'm still debating whether or not I really want to go to the concert though.
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If you're on here asking if you can do "236-miles within 24-hours" I say the answer is no. That distance is rather extreme. So unless you have done several centuries++ then you're in over your head. On the plus side I don't think your bike will be the point of failure
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Originally Posted by BigAura
If you're on here asking if you can do "236-miles within 24-hours" I say the answer is no. That distance is rather extreme. So unless you have done several centuries++ then you're in over your head. On the plus side I don't think your bike will be the point of failure
You're probably right. But Google maps seems to say it should take about 20-hours on a bicycle which is where I got that from.
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Originally Posted by Isaiahc72
You're probably right. But Google maps seems to say it should take about 20-hours on a bicycle which is where I got that from.
A 400km brevet would be 248 miles, give or take, and the allotted time is 26 hours and 40 minutes. It can be done but it's a big step from doing a century to doing more than a double century. You can do a century and more within the hours of daylight but to do what you're describing would involve riding all day and all night, and then you'd want time to get some rest before the concert. There's not much point cycling that far to a gig if you sleep through the gig and then have to cycle home.
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Originally Posted by Isaiahc72
You're probably right. But Google maps seems to say it should take about 20-hours on a bicycle which is where I got that from.
Two 10 hour days days if you are very confident. With plenty of rest & food in between. I'm also assuming that you are young & determined, if you're not it'll take at least 3.
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Which way does the prevailing wind blow that time of year? If you're rocking a tailwind, that should be doable and fun. If you're going to be fighting a headwind, two days would be better.

If you're going for it, I suggest doing as many of your dark-hour miles as possible pre-sunrise on day one. It's a lot easier to deal with the dark when one is fresh than it is after a couple hundred miles (ask me how I know). Also, have a back up lighting system.
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Originally Posted by Isaiahc72
I've done a century. I'm still debating whether or not I really want to go to the concert though.
When is the concert?

If it isn't for a while yet, then start riding centuries every few weeks and build up.

And yes, you should be able to do 236 miles (380 km) within 25.5 hours (at a 15 km/h minimum speed, including all breaks). That's Randonneuring speed.
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Originally Posted by Isaiahc72
You're probably right. But Google maps seems to say it should take about 20-hours on a bicycle which is where I got that from.
The time returned using Google bike directions has often made no sense to me. Even if you assume 20 hrs. is correct, that's 20 hrs. of riding time. If you wanted to cover the distrance in 24 hrs. of "clock time," you would have to ride for 20 hrs. with only 4 hrs. of rest time during that stretch. So, leaving at 8 a.m., you would cover the distance by 8 a.m. if you only took 4 total hours of break time. That, of course, would require you to ride in the dark.
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Originally Posted by Isaiahc72
I plan on possibly riding 236-miles to and from Oklahoma city(400+mile total) this summer for a concert.
It's the riding in summer part that would be the problem. OKC is very very hot in the summer as you know. Even if you train now to do the distance, you got to train yourself to handle the heat. The body can sweat more fluids then you can intake orally which adds to the challenge. That would be my concern about trying to do a double century in 95 plus degree heat.
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A double century is pretty crazy. That's just too long in the saddle IMO. I don't think that would be fun.
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