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Old 06-14-14, 06:30 PM
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Ortlieb Hi Viz Yellow Panniers

I am shopping for a full set of Ortlieb panniers...probably the Bike Packer Plus and Sport Packer Plus. I am trying to decide on color and read somewhere that the best choice was the most visible color for obvious reasons. To me, that would be the Hi Viz yellow.

I have some motorcycling experience and hi viz jackets are popular...for the same reasons. Its all about being seen by motorists. However, most hi viz jackets that have been
used much are both faded and filthy. And as such, have lost much of their "hi-viz" mojo.

So, I am interested in your experience with bright yelow panniers. Do they become faded and filthy in no time? Or are these miracle fabrics immune from all of this?

Many thanks for your help,

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Call Wayne at The Touring Store. He knows this stuff very well and can answer all of your questions. He will tell you about the differences between the "Classic" PVC coated material and the "Plus" model cordura panniers, as well as new hi-vis model that employs a weave that glows in the dark. I believe the cordura fades the most quickly and when I spoke to him several months ago they were working on avoiding this problem with the new hi-vis material, which was undergoing extensive field testing at the time. He will also advise you about fabric protectors that you can add for UV protection. There are also ultralight hi-vis rain covers available if you want to go that route.

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Originally Posted by mm718
Call Wayne at The Touring Store. He knows this stuff very well and can answer all of your questions. He will tell you about the differences between the "Classic" PVC coated material and the "Plus" model cordura panniers, as well as new hi-vis model that employs a weave that glows in the dark. I believe the cordura fades the most quickly and when I spoke to him several months ago they were working on avoiding this problem with the new hi-vis material, which was undergoing extensive field testing at the time. He will also advise you about fabric protectors that you can add for UV protection. There are also ultralight hi-vis rain covers available if you want to go that route.
Good suggestion. I bought my first Ortlieb panniers from him and he's great. I plan to buy from him.
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An alternative view "might" be that little touring is usually done during the hours of darkness by many.
Of course at least one exception might be early mornings......
I own the yellow Ortliebs albeit in Classic Rollers, Ultimate 5 and 31 Litre rack bag.
Their visibility is great during the day, but make for a PITA stealth camping.
I'm kinda wishing I'd gone with black foe this reason.
I haven't noticed any fading but the yellow does seem to attack dirt and marks.
Nothing I can't live with but I've had to get a little less fussy over the years.
The hot Aussie sun doesn't appear to have done much in the way of fading (fingers crossed)
Actually thinking about it, much of the things I've purchased in the pursuit of stealth have laughed at me.
My blend with the bush green tent turns out to have panels with reflective coating and guide ropes that scream "look at me" at the merest contact with any torch or headlight beam.
My Schwalbe Mondials reflective stripe is the same ("Look at Me) at night.
The tarp I bought specially to mitigate the loaded bike being easily seen turns out to have the same damn reflective qualities as the tent despite me getting the green one.
Man plans, the Deities laugh........
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If things have not changed since I purchased my bags then the sides of the bag are still black, with only the face being high vis. I thought about this when I purchased my bags and bought all black. I reasoned that the high vis would really only be of value when crossing intersections. I went with black to avoid dirt stains.

If you think about it, the vast majority of the time drivers will be behind you or in front of you. It won't be to often that drivers will ever see the bags.

The glow in the dark bags might be kind of nice at night when passing through towns and there is lots of traffic everywhere.
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I don't have the high-viz yellow, but I have been using the Ortlieb Classic Rollers in yellow. I've been running my back panniers for 7 years and they are about as bright as the day I bought them. They have been used quite a bit, about a total touring time of a year during the 7 year period.

The back panniers are 7 years old, the rackpack and bar bag are about 6, and the front panniers are 5 years old. They all look about the same.


My wife has the Packer Plus series, and her front panniers are also 7 years old. They are red but have faded to pink on the upper surfaces. However, they have more exposure hours than my panniers. She used them for commuting and around town so they get used almost every day. Her 5 year old rear panniers are yellow, and so far they have not faded.


I have a 10 year old high-viz rain jacket that I used for commuting as well a on tours, and it has faded to white on the back and sleeves. It has seen a lot of use. I think you are correct about the color's tendency to fade. Other than that it has been a great jacket. It still shed rain and I still use it.

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Ortlieb Hi Viz Yellow Panniers

I do a lot of "ninja camping" so hi-viz panniers would be just one more thing to be seen, but apart from that, more visibility can't be a bad thing on the road.
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just have the Orange .. a common color for SOLAS gear on boats..


[FWIW red pigment fade is commonplace]
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The reflectors on the rear of Ortlieb panniers show up well at night. Combined with a decent tail light there is plenty of visibility. The color of the panniers can still be seen from the rear.


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I took a pair of the "plain" yellow Bikepacker Plus across the country. The dome at the top is visible over the black front and back, so it did add some visibility. 4,500 miles later, they're still pretty bright. (They're so big I don't use them for normal commuting or short trips, except once a year to the apple orchard.)

OTOH, my red Sportspacker Plus panniers are quite definitely faded. They see daily use for commuting, and I take them frequently on trips where I need more water, or want to dake some extra clothing, etc.

It'll be interesting to see how the high vis color does. The dyes for that color (fluorescein) were among the least stable some 30 years ago; I wonder if somebody's developed a way to stabilize them or found a replacement?
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