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Old 08-05-14, 10:36 AM
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How Late Is Too Late (Canadian Weather)

Got the urge to do a trip from Burlington VT to Montreal with a diversion to part of Quebec's wine route. But is early November too late, will a southern guy like me freeze? Has anyone done a tour in this part of Quebec, and if so any tips?
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There's a good chance overnight temps will dip below freezing. link.
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You may encounter snow. It probably wouldn't last, but you may encounter it, and it isn't fun on slicks.
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Originally Posted by bikebuddha
Got the urge to do a trip from Burlington VT to Montreal with a diversion to part of Quebec's wine route. But is early November too late, will a southern guy like me freeze? Has anyone done a tour in this part of Quebec, and if so any tips?
The temperature in Montreal is not dissimilar to Burlington Vermont. If it is cold in Burlington, it is probably cold in Montreal.
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i ran into some nasty weather in northern california last november...
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Old 08-05-14, 01:33 PM
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You may encounter snow. It probably wouldn't last, but you may encounter it, and it isn't fun on slicks.
And that's what I was afraid of. Last November I was in TO in what was described as an unusually warm spell. But it was great cycling weather even on a bixie.
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You just can't tell. I watch fall temps carefully to time my leaf "colour" photography. And October can be warm (high 60s) or cold. We usually get one warm week in October that has traditionally been called Indian Summer. But rarely is it the last week of October.
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You can ride in November, if it was an all indoors things at nights you could have a nice time, depending on your tolerances, the bike couriers don't shut down in winter (not that you can go by that, but in November maybe). It will however get really cold at night, and the days will get very short. So if you were going to spend your off time in restos and bars, go to movies and hit the hotel, it might be great. Not for me if camping. Not least of all because most of the camp grounds close late September.

However, I have been really cold and nastied up in September. I am from Ontario and NB, so I know the cold. The two times I was cycling across the province in September, I got easterlies up the Saint Lawrence that were torrentially wet, cold, and windy. Not so bad if you are working your way west.
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I live in Eastern Ontario, west and north of Montreal. Last autumn we say a delayed frost, late October versus the usual mid September. On the other extreme, nearly twenty years ago, we had snow on Halloween and did not see the grass again until April. The period you identify represents the transition from mid-late Fall, I expect leaves to be on the ground, the water temperatures to be in 40s and the steelhead and brown trout to be migrating up river. Seeing snow in the morning is not unusual.

It is not too late, but you need to adjust accordingly. Late start due to a small snow or let a day go by.
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If your talking about Canadian weather in the fall, I wish you luck trying to predict it. Sometimes there will be a foot of snow in Sept, other times it will be 15C in December.

I'd say be prepared to hotel it and have a backup plan if the weather is just too bad for enjoyable cycling. Will be fun either way, I'd do it myself.
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Even if you were to get lucky with the weather, the landscape will be bleak and sunset will be early.
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Originally Posted by duckbill
The temperature in Montreal is not dissimilar to Burlington Vermont. If it is cold in Burlington, it is probably cold in Montreal.
The distance from Burlington Vermont to Montreal Quebec is less than 100 miles. You will not see that much difference in temperature or weather conditions.
How far south do you live?
Are you familiar with the weather in northern Vermont?
Last November the temperature average was in the mid to low 30 F degree range.
I rode every day at this temperature but some people feel it is too cold.
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Originally Posted by duckbill
The distance from Burlington Vermont to Montreal Quebec is less than 100 miles. You will not see that much difference in temperature or weather conditions.
How far south do you live?
Are you familiar with the weather in northern Vermont?
Last November the temperature average was in the mid to low 30 F degree range.
I rode every day at this temperature but some people feel it is too cold.
Atlanta Georgia. Where in November we will still be enjoying 70 F days and 50F nights.
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Originally Posted by axolotl
Even if you were to get lucky with the weather, the landscape will be bleak and sunset will be early.
We have a winner.
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I have a friend who commutes 25 kms each way every day that he can, including the coldest days. He uses a mountain bike for snowy conditions, road bike for 3 seasons.
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I have lived in Quebec (for four years, including winters) and cycle toured in Quebec (July through first week of September.) As much as Quebec is a fantastic cycling destination, I wouldn't attempt a November trip. The weather is too iffy.

But if you do decide to go, be prepared for the possibility of very cold nights, and very cold hands during the day. On the plus side, you will not have to worry about mosquitoes!
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I grew up southeast of Watertown on the Tug Hill Plateau (Lake Ontario snow belt) and I only remember a handful of times there actually having snow around early November, but I would count on frozen precipitation being a strong possibility (maybe not staying on the ground but falling from the sky). Halloween costumes were designed with winter coats underneath.

I remember two times school being cancelled the first of November. I also remember soccer season ending at the end of October or beginning of November and it was wet and cold and windy and miserable. I was also the goalie and my gloves were always damp and my hands always hurt making saves.

So I would say snow is a fair possibility, cold is a near certainty (below 40F), being wet is highly likely and enjoying PQ wines is an absolute. Try some fresh fromage also.
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