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Old 09-05-14, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by CommuteCommando
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Yes, I think any one who believes that strapping a *** to your waist prevents violence is crazy. I am not for taking any responsible persons guns away. But how do I know you're not crazy. Legally, how does one say who can and cannot carry. The law did nothing to keep James Holmes from legally acquiring an arsenal.

We could have prevented the Aurora CA thing with open carry? Guy goes into a darkened theater and starts blasting away. One "patriot" returns fire. Another, not knowing who is the good guy, who is the bad guy in the dark, starts blasting away, then another, and another. . .
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Old 09-05-14, 10:38 AM
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no message- Mods- please lock this thread before I say something I'll regret...
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Old 09-05-14, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by CommuteCommando
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Yes, I think any one who believes that strapping a *** to your waist prevents violence is crazy.
At some spiritual level that is crazy. Transactionally you can shoot your way out of some situations you otherwise wouldn't walk out of. Whether a *** is the most useful piece of gear to strap to your waist, ahead of say an airway or trauma kit, is another questions.

I think open carry should be legal, maybe like nudity, you don't need to be locking people up over it, but I'm not campaigning for it either, and I don't really want to see it from most people. It used to be the case that more states allowed open carry than concealed carry, but the changes since Kileen have swung the pendulum heavily toward concealed, and that makes open something few people should want in high traffic areas.

I am not for taking any responsible persons guns away. But how do I know you're not crazy.
Same way you know someone passing you in a car isn't crazy, social trust. Bot pro and anti *** types are representative of people who are reducing it. Neither trusts their fellow man. Trusting people is a risk that neither has the courage for, though there are obvious situations where trust is not warranted.

We could have prevented the Aurora CA thing with open carry? Guy goes into a darkened theater and starts blasting away. One "patriot" returns fire. Another, not knowing who is the good guy, who is the bad guy in the dark, starts blasting away, then another, and another. . .
So you don't use your *** in those situations. Shootings are a particular problem since unlike say learning to commute in heavy traffic, you are not going to get the chance to practice a lot. So probably you should not think of yourself as Dirty Harry (who was trained police in addition to his fictional capabilities). But if you keep it simple you should be OK. Zimmerman VS Martin is a classic case. Assume that Zimm's contentions are all true, which is something a person in his situation would know at the time. The shooting was simple, no risk to bystanders, etc... Not saying that is what happened, but a person who was in the defence's claimed position, could easily engage in a good shooting, convincing the public at large is another mater.

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Old 09-05-14, 04:38 PM
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Yes, I think any one who believes that strapping a *** to your waist prevents violence is crazy.
Over a period of thirty years I personally have met or known three people for whom this was true, as in an imminent threat of violence was abruptly deterred, tho' it is true the object in question was out of sight until the need for it became apparent. Their accounts rang true and seemed entirely plausible to me on account of I have been living and teaching high school in a higher crime area for 25 years now (heck, we had two criminals shooting at each other down the street just this week).

Others' MMV.

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Old 09-05-14, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Sharpshin
"Sigh"..... expecting this thread to be deported any moment.....
Sorry, folks. *** threads aren't allowed. Closing.
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