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Old 11-28-14, 10:13 AM
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Thoughts about how to bring my guitar on a tour

Ive gotten a Kona sutra 2014, and rode it through Ireland with 4 panniers and a guitar inside one of them. This wasnt very optimal cause it ment having the pannier open so the guitar could stick out.
Now im wondering what kinda rig would be good for going around the world with a guitar. Even if im not going around the world first I am doing an european trip, but would like to gear of like im going around the world

Is 4 panniers and a BoB yak overkill??
How to fit a tubus solid rack and BoB trailer wich is bombproof?
All advice is welcome!
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Old 11-28-14, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Traagstad View Post
How to fit a tubus solid rack and BoB trailer wich is bombproof?
Bit confused with this, Tubus don't make solid racks, they are either tubular steel or Titanium, model dependent, not sure anyone makes solid racks either.

What exactly is the question, is it which option to go for, or how do you fit both the the frame? If the frame option, given that they have different mounting solutions (except the Tubus axle mounting option) you should be able to fit both to the Kona Sutra
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If you don't mind humping a trailer along,you can take a stand up bass if you want.

I've seen people with a couple panniers and a trailer....4 panniers and a trailer with a tandem bike.
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You might also consider how you would handle a bike, 4 panniers, a BOB trailer and a guitar at airports and train stations. How do you plan to pack or ship all of those items?

I like my guitar too much to take it on a bike trip, but a harmonica fits in my bar bag
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Part of the answer depends on what guitar - If it's a high-end solid wood instrument like a Gibson, Martin or high zoot Taylor I would go with a hardshell case on a trailer. A laminated guitar, like Epiphone or Ibanez or the like may need less protection.
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Thoughts about how to bring my guitar on a tour

I carry a guitar with me, see my avatar, Another solution is just strapping it flat on the rear rack, so it sticks out rearwards. I've carried guitars in both hard and soft cases.

The way to strap it on the side is with a strap around the waist and rack, and a bungy cord from the rack down and back up to the waist strap. Hope that makes sense otherwise I can post pics.

3/4 size guitar is another solution, or a "travelling" guitar like the Martin Backpacker

edit: I buy cheap guitars (Yamaha C40 for example) and often give them away at the end of a tour as airlines are so restrictive nowadays...

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Old 11-28-14, 01:40 PM
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Met someone doing a Singer-songwriter Bike tour Of thePacific Coast

on an Extracycle extended MtB, the Guitar [Rainsong CarbonFiber D type] in a styrofoam light-hard case.

It Packed nicely on 1 side of the Long Tail , a pannier on the opposite side and 2 on the fork ..

FWIW Here is a company Making a Guitar with the Neck, By design, Removable , so takes up less space.

This is the Carbon Fiber version, they also use Wood to make some too .. Just CF & epoxy is Moisture Absorption Proof.

Carbon Fiber Travel Guitar ? OF660 | Journey Instruments


I coped with My Irish-Scottish Trip much easier , being a Mandolin player .
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BTW the tow fork of a BoB trailer will fit below rear Panniers , its just that you have to take them off to fit and remove the trailer .

If you Use a 2 wheel trailer They use the left axle end, then you just have to pop the left pannier off to access the connector.
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Originally Posted by Doug64 View Post
...I like my guitar too much to take it on a bike trip, but a harmonica fits in my bar bag...
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Old 11-28-14, 06:23 PM
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Have you considered getting a folding guitar? Travel guitar that folds in half - Voyage-Air! A real guitar for real players
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The BOB Yak would work fine and since the guitar won't fill it up you probably won't need four bags. Unless you are like me, similar to a fish in an aquarium...the more space I get, the more I use. The logistics of traveling abroad and on commercial trans are beyond my experience.

I've traveled with all sorts of guitars and all I can say is that the travel guitars suck, in almost any way you can think of. The best of the little ones that I've tried is the Baby Taylor, but it's a nice, care hungry creature, just like small. I use a Martin 00 X series to go. Small, inexpensive and made with enough laminate stuff to survive reasonable humidity and temperature changes.
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Originally Posted by Doug64 View Post

I like my guitar too much to take it on a bike trip, but a harmonica fits in my bar bag
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i've packed an alto recorder a couple of times
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Old 11-28-14, 07:41 PM
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carbon fibre travel guitar?
or Ukulele
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+1 for the ukulele. I had a bigger problem than you do because I was a drummer! My solution was to buy and learn the uke. Now I can take my instrument and make music wherever I go.
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Originally Posted by Traagstad View Post
Is 4 panniers and a BoB yak overkill??
not really, if you need to carry lotsa stuff. i spent 18 months au/nz, 4 panniers and
a bob. in addition to cycling (with camping and cooking), like to go hiking, so also
had a pair of heavy-duty hiking boots. and the short wave radio. and a half dozen
paperback novels. up to a weeks worth of food and up to 5 gallons of water. it was
heavy (bike+trailer+gear+5galH20=175 pounds!)



Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
BTW the tow fork of a BoB trailer will fit below rear
Panniers , its just that you have to take them off to fit and remove the trailer .
not always....depends on frame size and rack model and type of panniers. 64cm
frame with blackburn rack, c'dale overland (?) bags. with this combination, no
real problem fitting/removing the trailer with bags on the bike.
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Wow, thats alot of replies thx alot!
Im also thinking about building a bike up for using around the world at some point.
Think ive figured out that the Surly disc trucker will be a good choice since its been tested.
So its gonna be the Surly frame fork.
If any1 has a good opinion for drivetrain, steering and wheels.
Has to be designed for going around the world without too much problems, and easy to find spareparts. Still not sure what brakes to go for, but leaning towards the avid BB7 Mechanical disc brakes, since theyve been tested and isnt too much trouble to adjust.
Any advice for setup is appreciated.
Wondering a little about what frame as well, got 56cm on the Kona Sutra wich I dont know is the best fit for me, tend to not be able to go so long before i get very tired neck muscles. would going for a 54 be better? since im basiccly gonna build it up myself i guess it wont be to much trouble to change out the 54 frame to a 56 if I find out 54 is too small, going to a dealer is pretty far away. and since I wont really know before ive cycled for a while, what do you suggest?
Price is a small factor but not really what i think the most about. Cheers!
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I would say get a ukulele that is what I carry on tour and I just strap it to the top of my rack and it only sticks out a little. Unless you are playing in a band and touring with said band playing town to town or glen to glen having a full size guitar is not practical unless you are already doing a trailer and you like having the trailer.

Looking at your above Q+A I would say this: The best drivetrain is usually a mix of parts. 9 speed triple is hard to find in any quality but you can easily get a Sora FD . Since you do less shifting in the front Sora isn't bad though you can find some old 9 speed Triple Dura-Ace and Ultegra FDs on the eBays. Deore is a good choice for the rear (it was one of Shimano's touring DTs before it was more MTB focused) just make sure you get a long cage so you can handle larger gearing.

Phil Wood makes a great square taper BB and Sugino and Andel both make some nice cranks. Square taper is the way to go because it is pretty easy to find around the world (as opposed to Octalink or ISIS) but with Phil you probably won't have to worry much as the quality and durability is high.

Avid BB7s are the way to go for mechanical discs. I haven't found anyone who dislikes them and uses mechanical disc brakes (there are plenty of folks who like other brakes or prefer hydro) It is one of the reasons that makes the Disc Trucker complete bike such a good deal, they don't try and win you with fancy saddles and crap parts throughout they put decent stuff in the important areas and leave some stuff a little less expensive where it is less important or you might end up upgrading anyway. I will say I dislike the look of the G2 clean sweep rotor but it functions just fine. Though for world travel you might take a few extra pads with you because they won't be as easy to find as a canti brake or V brake pad.

For bars I recommend a good ergo bar. The flat section on the top of my bars is nice because my it helps circulation and eases pain on my palms. A good tape is always key and I prefer the Fizik 3MM tape but the Lizard Skins DSP tape seems quite good as well.
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Unless you are playing in a band and touring with said band playing town to town or glen to glen having a full size guitar is not practical unless you are already doing a trailer and you like having the trailer.
Uh, nope... A full size guitar is not such a big deal. Find a way to strap it onto your rear rack and off you go...

Ukeleles, harmonicas etc are not particularly good alternatives, imo, unless you want to learn a new instrument
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Originally Posted by imi View Post
Uh, nope... A full size guitar is not such a big deal. Find a way to strap it onto your rear rack and off you go...

Ukeleles, harmonicas etc are not particularly good alternatives, imo, unless you want to learn a new instrument
I wouldn't say that. Strapping on my uke is plenty enough of a hassle with panniers I wouldn't imagine a full size guitar. A travel guitar maybe. Finding a way to securely strap it on your rear rack and make it not be in the way or hang out way too far is going to be hard. Maybe you could modify one of those Fairdale Skateboard racks to hold a guitar and use one pannier in the rear but it still seems like a hassle.

Though I think learning an instrument that you are semi-familiar with on tour could be a fun distraction when you need to take your mind off the road for a bit. I played guitar for quite a while before I picked up a uke.
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Thoughts about how to bring my guitar on a tour

OP wanted advice on carrying a guitar. It is not that much of a problem, I've done it for ages, and met others who do to... so this negativity from ukelele players who have not carried guitars probably doesn't help too much.
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