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Old 12-08-14, 08:37 AM
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Any thoughts about this Thorn Nomad?

Thorn Nomad MK2 Frame & Fork Set - Matt Black - 590L

Bars Straight - BLACK Thorn Flat Track bar - 25.4mm Clamp
(Kitpart) Thorn Flat Track Bars - 25.4mm Clamp - Black
(Kitpart) Thorn For Rohloff Cast End 2 x M5 to 1 x M6 Stainless Dropout Adaptors

OEM Ergon GP5-L Anatomic Grips - Large - Black

Hub BLACK Schmidt SON 28 Front 32h

Hub BLACK Rohloff EX box
(Kitpart) OEM Rohloff Speedhub 500/14 CC 14 Spd Gear Hub 32h Black with EX box inc. 19T Sprocket & Tandem Axle Plate
(Kitpart) Titanium Rear Quick Release Alloy Skewer for 135mm OLN Hubs - Black

Drill Rims for Schrader valves
Rims BLACK Andra 30 CSS 26" & SwissStop pads - 32h
(Kitpart) Rigida Andra 30 26" (559) MTB CSS Rim - Black - 32 Hole Regular Drilling
(Kitpart) Rigida Andra 30 26" (559) MTB CSS Rim - Black - 32 Hole Rohloff Drilling
(Kitpart) SJSC Reinforce Nylon Rim Tape - 26" (559) x 22 mm - Red
(Kitpart) Wheel Reflectors - Orange
(Kitpart) Swissstop Blue Brake Pads for Deore / LX / XT / XTR Brakes - for Ceramic & Carbide CSS Rims

Tyres FOLDING - Schwalbe Marathon Dureme 26 x 2.00 Reflex & presta tubes
(Kitpart) Schwalbe SV13 Presta Tube - 26" Tyres - 40-559 to 62-559

[SB] Shimano XT V Brakes,with XT levers

175mm BLACK Cranks Thorn *CHOOSE 104 CHAINRING*
(Kitpart) Thorn M8 Crankset Bolts, Stainless Steel - Pack of 2
(Kitpart) Shimano UN55 73 mm Shell English Thread Sealed Cartridge Taper Bottom Bracket - 107 mm
(Kitpart) OEM KMC X1 Rohloff compatible 1/2 inch x 3/32 inch chain.
(Kitpart) Thorn 104/64 PCD Triple Crankset MK2 - Black - 175mm
(Kitpart) Thorn M8 Single Chainring Bolts, Stainless Steel - Pack of 5

Rohloff Speedhub 500/14 hub gear sprocket (steel) 19T # FIT
(Kitpart) Thorn Sprocket for Rohloff Hubs - 19T

Thorn 104mm BCD 4 Arm Reversible Single Chainring 3/32 Inch - Black - 40T

SKS chromoplastic 26in mudguards Black 65(include fitting kit)

Profile Design Kage bottle cages x 3 Kit

Busch & Muller Lumotec Lyt N Plus Headlight for Hub Dynamos
Cateye TL-LD1100 10 LED Opticube Rear Light including mounting bracket
(Kitpart) Thorn MkV Cro Mo Steel Lo-Loader - Black Powder Coat
(Kitpart) Thorn Expedition Steel Rear Cycle Pannier Rack - Black Powdercoat

Thorn Accessory Bar MK2 T Shaped 105 mm Extension - 25.4 mm - 0 Deg

OEM Brooks B17 Standard saddle Honey with black steel rails

SPARES
6 Spare Spokes Front and 6 spokes rear
Swissstop Blue Brake Pads for Deore / LX / XT / XTR Brakes - for Ceramic & Carbide CSS Rims 4x
Schwalbe SV13 Presta Tube - 26" Tyres - 40-559 to 62-559##spare##
Rohloff Full Oil Change Kit - 8410 2x
Rohloff Screw in Drainplug for Speedhub 500/14 - 8205 3x
Rohloff Sprocket Removal Tool for Rohloff Speedhub 500/14 - 8501
assortment of bolts fitted to bike sa spares
Teng Tools TS/TX20 Torx T key for Rohloff hubs
Spare Dureme 2.0" folding tire
Any thoughs about anything at all is appreciated, want to hear the pros before I order the beast (thats my name for this one)
Want to have a bike more than capeable of going around the world, to desolated places, hauling a lot of gear.

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Old 12-08-14, 09:39 AM
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I love my Fearless Nomad! I have 38-16 gearing. The 40-19 looks to be a good notch lower. I think that is smart. I think sometimes about taking mine down a step. I can get up steep hills unloaded, or long hills loaded. But a steep (17% or whatever) hill, loaded... that'd stop me!

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Old 12-08-14, 09:45 AM
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My thoughts are mainly that I'm incredibly jealous, and that looks like a great build. :-)
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Thoughts:

1. I do not see a need for Titanium skewers. I am not sure what my quick release skewers are but they are not Titanium, they are the regular ones that SJS usually supplies, silver colored levers. Around home I use quick release, but for travel I use bolt on skewers, Halo XL.
2. Not sure why you have a triple crank listed. I used a double on my build.
3. SJS will adjust your fenders and cut your fender stays to fit the tires that they fit, in this case the 2.0 width. If you ever want to be able to put 2.25 width tires on, you need to tell SJS in advance to leave a little extra bit of stay on each of the fender stays so you can run bigger tires. Maybe cut them 10mm or 15mm longer than they otherwise would?
4. 6 spare spokes per wheel is a lot. If I broke more than about 3 or 4 spokes on a wheel, I would start thinking about replacing all spokes at once.
5. Don't forget the pedals and saddle.
6. I do not know if you plan to use any devices that use a USB for battery charging. If you do, you should know that a couple of the lights out there now are being made with a USB plug in them, so you can plug your device into your front light for charging. There are several other options too, you would have to ask SJS about all the options and cost of each option. I personally am a bit of a DIY sort of guy, I soldered up my own USB charging device instead of paying the big bucks for one of the commercially made ones, thus I can't recommend a specific light that has that feature.
7. Dureme tires are no longer made, I like them, you are fortunate that they still had some in stock.

That gearing should get you up hills quite well. Mine is geared higher for around home use where the steepest hill is 11 percent and I am not carrying camping gear. But I switch to lower gearing for travel.
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The skewers is what they use for the bike, cba to change them.
the triple crankset I dunno, its what thorn quoted back to me, its probably just a standard line they copy pasted or something.
the fenders will be able to take 2.25"
Can never have enough spokes man! besides the spokes for the rohloff is non standard, cant really get em when you out on a long distance tour
Pedals gonna be the Shimano Spd A530 with the Sandals =)
Gotta check out the charging option you are talking about!
I think Sjscycles got them to make the duremes esspecially for them?? You can get them on theyr wepage atleast.
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Old 12-08-14, 02:26 PM
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You might consider having both hubs in the disc-enabled form, even though you're using rim brakes. That way, should you ever want to change to disc (the frame is disc-enabled, but you'd need a different fork), it would be an easy upgrade. I spec'ed mine that way, and did eventually switch to a suss fork and disc brakes. If you do go that way, switch the front hub to 36 hole, since it will be dished (the Rohloff will still be undished).

And think about changing the light to the Luxos, which has a USB port.

The Nomad is a marvelous bike.

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Also, you may want to go to the Thorn Forums for more advice, since that's full of folks who own Nomads.

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45t _ 19t would still be in the hub's Comfort range and warrantee [2.35 x cog T] ie 44.65
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Originally Posted by Traagstad View Post
The skewers is what they use for the bike, cba to change them.
the triple crankset I dunno, its what thorn quoted back to me, its probably just a standard line they copy pasted or something.
the fenders will be able to take 2.25"
Can never have enough spokes man! besides the spokes for the rohloff is non standard, cant really get em when you out on a long distance tour
Pedals gonna be the Shimano Spd A530 with the Sandals =)
Gotta check out the charging option you are talking about!
I think Sjscycles got them to make the duremes esspecially for them?? You can get them on theyr wepage atleast.
Interesting on the skewers, I did not know the standard was titanium. I built up my Nomad from the frame and fork. I ordered skewers from SJS, but I am sure mine are not titanium.

There are many options for USB charging, all of them can be bought later. But the one that is built into the light, if that is the option you wanted, you really should decide that before you order so you do not have an extra expensive item that you no longer need.

Have you considered how much this bike will weigh? A bike that won't break has a lot of steel on it. I was surprised at how heavy mine is. I am still happy with mine, I am not disappointed. But if you are expecting a lightweight you might be disappointed. As you can see from the comments from others above, several of us are happy with the Nomad.

I do not know what country you are in. I am in USA. I expected to pay 4 percent duty on the frame and fork and some other things that I also ordered from SJS, but the duty for customs actually was closer to 6 percent. But I think that the duty on a complete bike is 10 percent. If you are in USA, when delivered the mail carrier will ask for a check. So, include that in your budget. Ask SJS to give you the tracking number, that will make it easier to figure out when it gets to your post office. In my case I was home with the mail carrier carried the big box to my front door asking for a big check, so there was no difficulty in my coordinating receipt.
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I think the duty on a full bike is 11%. FedEx delivered my bike. I recall getting a bill for the import duty from some sort of import agent, about a month after I got the bike. I had been hoping they'd let it go by for free!

Yeah my Nomad weighs about 40 pounds. But it's great for adventure, even if I hardly get out of the county!

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Jim,

That's a good point about duty. The duty on a built-up fat-tired bike is 11%, and the duty on frame is, I believe, 4%. You might consider ordering frame and wheelset (plus Rohloff-specific shifters), but having your LBS built it up. Shipping would be reduced, too.
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My thoughts are its not about the bike.
But if it were, the Nomad is a fine choice indeed.
Its weight puts it firmly in the built to last box.
Your use will determine whether or not thats a good thing.
I think it is but then I'm happy tickling along in no hurry at my own pace.
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