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Originally Posted by walksomemore
(Post 17426713)
Are you kidding? a CF bike? I have a Trek 520 and a Masi CF roadbike. Other than the fast-twitch handling of the shorter wheelbase, I'm sort of afraid to put the CF frame through too much - it's so lightweight it almost feels - well, fragile. I'd love to see your gear list for a CF-based tour....Funny, DeadGrandpa and I have been hashing and hashing on platform selections and weight, right now my 520 is at about 29 lbs without gear (but with racks), and I figured I'd get off lucky with 12 lbs or so additional stuff, bringing total weight to 40-42 lbs or so. You must have a huge saddlebag....
Lightweight Touring Gear List Redux. | The Wheels of Chance |
Originally Posted by nun
(Post 17426767)
There are CF bikes, and CF bikes. Mine is a Cervelo RS that I chose for it's relaxed geometry and because it was designed for riding over rough roads. I fiddled with the gearing and got some 32 spoke wheels. Here is my gear list.
Lightweight Touring Gear List Redux. | The Wheels of Chance |
Originally Posted by rideau
(Post 17426591)
After reading this thread, there's only one thing coming into my mind, ''Am i a superhuman or what?''
I am not a super experienced cyclist, i carry over 40lbs of stuff + the weight of my bike and i never had difficulty going uphill. Of course i am aware that with half the weight it will go faster and easier i guess, but, seriously, i don't care. I like and use everything i bring, i also often carry for a week of food, i often ride country roads with not many town and even less many groceries. I did many long hills and never heard myself complain about my load. I will never cut weight in unnecessary things(thiings that i could survive without) such as my joggling balls, 3-4 books, drawing pad+ pens or my pair of hiking boots, just for the sake of riding faster and farther. Some of us find a lighter load and a sportier bike to be more pleasant to ride. Some of us also like a more minimal lifestyle on the road and enjoy having fewer things to deal with. Both approaches can work fine if they suit the rider using them. Then again maybe you are just super human, we are wimps, or both. |
Originally Posted by walksomemore
(Post 17426904)
Thanks. My Masi is a 50/39 (typical for bike type), about the same weight, with Ritchey wheels. Your gear list is pretty typical, almost exactly like mine, but I am intrigued by the Carradice bag. What a cool find! I'll have to investigate that one. I also had a tarptent once that I made (from the Shires pattern), but I found I like double-walled tents for the Appalachian rain forest. Fortunately there are a bunch of dble-walled ul shelters out there now. Thanks again!
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Originally Posted by DeadGrandpa
(Post 17426106)
Machka, I checked some photos on your web page and saw that on some tours you had fenders and some you did not. Was this choice due to expected precipitation for the area and time of year, or did you ditch the fenders to save weight?
I have only done one short tour, with fenders, and pedaled in the rain only one day, for about 3 hours in 50 degree F temp. I was wearing a Frogg Togg rainsuit, but sweat soaked my torso from neck to thighs. I had my rain pants tied at the ankle so the legs didn't get caught on the chain ring, so the water ran into my socks and into my gore tex shoes. If I had had my gaiters or those fancy shoe covers, I might have made it with dry feet, but as it was, I was pretty well soaked; it was exhilarating but the thrill wore off by the time we got to a warm shelter. So I am undecided and am asking your opinion about the fenders. They didn't seem to keep me any drier than I would have been without them, but I have read comments that they are indispensable. This is for paved road touring in Florida in January. Do I need a different rain suit? If you're touring from home and don't have to pack your bicycle and all into a box, they're probably OK. But they do add something extra to deal with if you're packing your bicycle into a box. If you've got a set that don't rub on the tires and are fairly sturdy and you're not having any issues with them, I'd say ... keep them. And maybe you need different/additional rain gear. :) |
Originally Posted by walksomemore
(Post 17425581)
Interesting thread. Almost exactly like twelve million threads over on Whiteblaze.net or Backpackinglight or Hammock forums. I am a long time backpacker and a developing (first long trip next month) tourer. My backpacking base weight is about 11 lbs - maybe 12.5 for winter camping in the mid-atlantic. - includes down quilt, shelter (yes, I DO use a Cuben tarp - as well as a large 10X11 or 8X10 silnylon, depending...), clothes, kitchen, personal hygiene. When I start a new backpacking section on Monday, I generally carry 6 days' food and 2 liters of water. I filter along the way. My loaded 'Monday weight' is about 21-23 lbs including backpack and 2L water. So it ain't magic.....
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Originally Posted by cyccommute
(Post 17426287)
I also find that having extra space in both the front and rear bags comes in handy because food isn't always readily available even if your route goes through towns.
Sure, adding the front rack and panniers added maybe 3 lbs, but I didnt have to scrunch everything into what I had on the rear and having the extra space for bulky food was nice. Also, in this specific case I was on a rail trail with gravel for sections, so it was nice having the weight balanced out more (in the end, the second day was in heavy rain and the trail became so soft I bailed on it, partly due the amount of water and being on 28s) |
Originally Posted by djb
(Post 17427620)
I suspect you have already mentioned this in the past, and I possibly replied also in the past--this is something that I prefer also, having some extra space for carrying food. Last fall when I did a short two day trip and packed using less stuff, I was going to go with those new Arkel Dry-Lites panniers on my rear rack and a waterproof bag on top of the rack. I could have only gone this route, but it would have been tight, so I put the front rack on and used my old small front panniers and had lots of space for extra water in a 1.5 liter nalgene and food bought at the end of the day for supper, bkfast etc as I planned on camping where ever I stopped at the end of the evening along the trail.
Sure, adding the front rack and panniers added maybe 3 lbs, but I didnt have to scrunch everything into what I had on the rear and having the extra space for bulky food was nice. Also, in this specific case I was on a rail trail with gravel for sections, so it was nice having the weight balanced out more (in the end, the second day was in heavy rain and the trail became so soft I bailed on it, partly due the amount of water and being on 28s) |
yup, was just projecting from that time with my bags. As you say, guess it doesnt matter what setup you have, it doesnt mean you will or won't have extra room.
Like the idea of a nylon knapsack, there are many out there now that are super light and pack down to practically nothing. In fact my wife has one that has held up well for a few years now and I never even thought of using it (partly cuz I hate wearing one while riding, but for bulky stuff that wasnt heavy it would be fine, especially if just for not a long time) |
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