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Old 01-11-15, 10:55 AM
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LHT and Ortlieb/RackTime rack/bag ideas

Hello All,

I'm mainly a lurker and I've gained a lot from BF over the past couple years. Being winter, I am scratching the gear upgrade itch for this season working on the front end of my 2013 LHT for day trips, occasional commuting, and general fun. I'm not a multi-day tourer.

For cargo, I ask for your thoughts and experiences. I have installed an Ortlieb/RackTime "Top-it" front rack, a solid general purpose rack, View the Top-It at http://www.ortliebusa.com. RackTime has proprietary-mount bag and basket options, at this moment the "QubeIt" bag is the leading contender View the QUBEIT at http://www.ortliebusa.com. Very large capacity (18L, can hold some camera gear and other stuff), and under $80. For half the capacity and a bit higher price, there is their "TrunkIt" bag View the TRUNKIT at http://www.ortliebusa.com (I already have the similar Topeak trunk/panier bag from last year on the rear of the bike for occasional commuting/change of clothing purposes).

Now, for 2-3 times the price of the QubeIt are the usual contenders of rack/decaleur supported rando-type handlebar bags by:
Velo Orange, Grand Cru Front Handlebar Bag - Bags and Panniers - Accessories
Swift Industries, https://www.builtbyswift.com/products/5
Gilles Berthoud (Compass), Compass Bicycles: Racks/Bags
And others by Rivendell and other makers...
I like the price and large capacity of the QubeIt but I am not opposed to considering the other options. Are there any QubeIt users out there who can share your experience with it? Thoughts on front bags in general, these brands or others?

The one missing feature of the QubeIt, which if included would seal the deal for me, is a map pouch. Thoughts on a work-around for a map pouch?

If this photo attachment works, here is the RackTime rack installed on my bike. It sits a bit higher than other rack options, but still a much lower CofG than a handlebar supported bag.


(Not part of why I wrote in, but here are other things I've done so far this winter. I swapped my handlebar for a Velo Orange Grand Cru Chromoly Seine Bar (a very natural 45 degree rear sweep)- Grand Cru Chromoly Seine Bars, Noir - Handlebars - Components
On it, I installed Origin 8 mountain bike brake levers- Product Description | Origin8, and the new style Ergon GC-1 grips made for swept back bars- ERGON BIKE ERGONOMICS. Shift levers got moved to the down tube with a pair of Dura Ace 9-speed shifters. I will also wrap the straight section of the bar with Cinelli cork tape as to have multiple hand positions. Oh, yeah, and I mounted a VO brass bell. Classy! My frame is a 56cm size, 700c wheels, and when I bought it I asked that the steerer tube be left full length, about 12" long. This required 4.5" of spacers to get the bar to the top of the steerer. The handlebar is a good 2.5" above my saddle. I need to be upright, mainly for my aging wrists, but also for a generally relaxed position on the bike. My speed demon days are long behind me. A wide Brooks B67 saddle is also awaiting purchase.)

Your thoughts on the front bag situation are welcome and appreciated.

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Old 01-11-15, 11:03 AM
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Tl;Dr, perhaps take 1 question at a time?

AFAIK Rack time bags are sewn , the racks aluminum ... Ortlieb .. welded seam, .. the racks Tubus in steel or Ti.

Emailed? Use the Ortlieb USA website for these Queries ? I can only speak on the things I Bought, myself ..

If installation is not your best talent a Bike Shop should be willing to help . particularly for what they sold.

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Old 01-11-15, 08:09 PM
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Well, you're right. I wrote that like a kid in a candy store, sorry.

Let me rephrase- does anyone have experience they can share about the Ortlieb/Racktime "Qube-It" bag?

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I've never read of the QubeIt on this forum, until now. Several folks do use the Ortlieb Ultimate handlebar bag, evidently it works to their satisfaction.

I'd be concerned about the width of the QubeIt if I were mounting it next to a drop bar, because it's 31cm width would interfere with hand positions. Since you're using it with a VO Seine bar width isn't an issue. The QubeIt is probably more stable fitted to a front rack than an Ultimate fitted to handlebar, even at more than twice the size of the Ultimate bag (18l vs 7/8l). Cost/volume/ease of use factored in, the QubeIt is probably a bargain compared to the Ultimate at >100USD. I'd try if I were you. As far as map pocket goes, Ortlieb does make an add-on map case that you may be able to jury-rig onto a QubeIt bag. A snap kit might work, available from sewing supply sellers.

http://www.ortlieb.com/_pdf_en/ultimate5_mapcase.pdf

http://www.amazon.com/Dritz-Snap-Fas.../dp/B000XZU2IW

Your attachment doesn't work. I'm interesting in seeing your bike, since I also have a 56cm/700 Disc Trucker, and I've been thinking of swapping my drop bar/brifters for the exact same handlebar for a while now - either a VO Crazy or Seine (same geometrically except for welded-on bar-ends). I would use SRAM Rocket gripshifters and Sram levers with this bar. And maybe a TopIt front rack and QubeIt too.
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Why limit yourself to the QubeIt? The BarIt is made for a map holder. See both below:

View Racktime \\ Bags:Handlebar at http://www.ortliebusa.com

Also remember, you can use any trunk rack, not just the proprietary ones. My JAAND works fine with the rear rack and a smaller bag, I forget the brand, works well with the front rack.
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The BarIt attaches (it's lockable) to a small extension that attaches to the bar so hand positions are not affected.
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I think you'll find the TrunkIt will not fit on the TopIt. The QubeIt is a nice bag if you have the room for it and the attachment system is secure and easy to use, and since you already have the rack.........
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Here's some first-hand info on the QubeIt bag.
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Thanks for the help.

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Did you ever get the qube it? It's on sale right now at Sierra Trading Post for about $35 so a steal. I did not get one but got a basket large for my commuter on grocery runs which is also on clearance.
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Originally Posted by steve t. View Post

The one missing feature of the QubeIt, which if included would seal the deal for me, is a map pouch. Thoughts on a work-around for a map pouch?
Gallon Ziplocs and rare earth magnets. I destroyerd a couple Ortlieb Map cases at 25$ a pop and went to this...never looked back works great. Made a video about it ...here
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I did not buy the Qube-It. In the end I thought is was too bulky looking and instead I went with the large Racktime Bask-It. Racktime Strong construction and a very solid mount to the rack.

Ortlieb was the distributor for Racktime products in the USA, or something like that. The parent of Racktime recently decided to part ways with Ortlieb (both based in Germany) and will use other distribution streams, more details at the Racktime site.

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