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Old 01-08-17, 07:20 PM
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Training and race tubular suggestions

I know this may be opening up a can of worms and will likely get a multitude of different brand/model responses and thats ok.....I look forward to the discussion. I'm looking for two tubulars (actually four), one set to be used for training and the other to be used for racing. In the past, I used Tufo S3's for both training and racing simply because that is what was recommended to me (the shop i dealt with carried them)and they seemed to work well. I say they worked well as I don't have any other experience with other tubulars to compare. The shop is now out of business, so my purchases will be online, so I would appreciate some guidance.

Unless someone has a better recommendation for a training tire, I will probably stick with the Tufo 3's. As for race tires, any suggestions? Since I'm a bigger guy, I would like to stay away from 19mm tires. I will be doing sprinting and kilo on outdoor, concrete tracks.

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Old 01-08-17, 08:19 PM
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Have you read through this?

https://www.bikeforums.net/track-cycl...questions.html
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Old 01-08-17, 08:27 PM
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Assuming you already have the wheels for training, otherwise why tubs for training rather than clinchers?
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Old 01-08-17, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by brawlo View Post
Assuming you already have the wheels for training, otherwise why tubs for training rather than clinchers?
I already have two sets of clinchers for training and for training/racing I have a set of Corima 4 spokes, a Comete disk and an 808 front. The training tubulars will be used for some training and local races as I prefer to use the "race wheels" enough to be familiar with them and be confident in their handling characteristics. The race tubulars will be used for "big" races when you want everything to be perfect and give you optimal performance.
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Old 01-08-17, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by taras0000 View Post
I have not read that, but will. Did a search before posting, but didn't see that thread. Duh, I was searching in the lower forum, didn't even to think of looking at the stickies. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. But back to my question.....a good, race only tubular on an outdoor concrete track for sprint and kilo?

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But back to my question.....a good, race only tubular on an outdoor concrete track for sprint and kilo?
Depends on which track. T-town in relatively smooth. Rock Hill tends to shred tires. Alpenrose puts more strain on tires because of the banking.
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I ran Vittoria Corsa Evo CX 23mm for a few years and was very happy with them. Based on recommendations from the thread mentioned above as my racing was mostly asphalt and concrete.

These days I do most of my higher level racing indoors on boards so I've gone to Vittoria Pista Evo CL's. When I race outdoor events bigger than club races I just use my old 32 spoke clincher wheels with Veloflex Record tyres. Still took 2 seconds and a keirin win last weekend. They didn't slow me down!
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Depends on which track. T-town in relatively smooth. Rock Hill tends to shred tires. Alpenrose puts more strain on tires because of the banking.
Brian Piccolo veledrome in Ft Lauderdale is my home track, which is identical to the Colorado Springs velodrome, will be training and local races. Masters Nationals will be at Rock Hill this year, so that is the "big" race and primary purpose for the race only tires. Granted, I will use them at Brian Piccolo once nationals are over, but they will be purchased with Rock Hill in mind.
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How about Continental Steher tubulars?
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Can anybody decode the new Vittoria track tire names for me? Which one is the old Evo Pista CL/CS?
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The Vittoria pista speed is the new Evo pista CL. Low tread life, pure speed. The tubular pista should have more tread life than Evo pista CS and is similar to the new Corsa speed tubular except for the asymmetrical tread. The pista control has more tread like the regular corsa tubular but without the extra puncture protection of the Corsa. The pista control is supposed to be the tubular for outdoor concrete track.
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Originally Posted by Divebrian View Post
Brian Piccolo veledrome in Ft Lauderdale is my home track, which is identical to the Colorado Springs velodrome, will be training and local races. Masters Nationals will be at Rock Hill this year, so that is the "big" race and primary purpose for the race only tires. Granted, I will use them at Brian Piccolo once nationals are over, but they will be purchased with Rock Hill in mind.
If you're going to use tires on outdoor tracks and your season culminates at Rock Hill, you definitely want something with rubberized sidewalls. Though I see plenty of them at tracks like T-Town and other concrete tracks, people shred cotton sidewalls just warming up at Rock Hill (steeper means that low-speed riding rides on the sidewalls).

I am a fan of Conti Stehers - a pair tends to last me about a season and a half of weekly racing, and training, and they're nice enough to take to elite nats without feeling like i'm losing speed. I have some Tempo IIs ready to glue up too, that I'm excited to try out, and a Vittoria Chrono CS that looks and feels nice.
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The Vittoria pista speed is the new Evo pista CL. Low tread life, pure speed. The tubular pista should have more tread life than Evo pista CS and is similar to the new Corsa speed tubular except for the asymmetrical tread. The pista control has more tread like the regular corsa tubular but without the extra puncture protection of the Corsa. The pista control is supposed to be the tubular for outdoor concrete track.
Got it, thanks!
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