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"I called it first" for the 2020 Olympics

Old 02-25-20, 10:50 PM
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"I called it first" for the 2020 Olympics

Log your predictions for gear, personnel decisions, strategies, tactics, or results all in one place.

Feel free to discuss the predictions here as well, of course.

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Old 02-25-20, 10:51 PM
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This wheel is a new Zipp Tri Spoke that's based on the well-respected 808:

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There will be at least one TP participant using pedal toe straps (the kind sprinters commonly use).

I've been suggesting this for pursuiters to use for years as a way to eliminate friction/waste in their drivetrain. It's not just about fear of accidental disengagement.

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I'm expecting the Dutch men's sprint team to dominate all their events. I'm hoping the Japanese team can medal, they've been looking good in the TS in the world cups.
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US women will win the Team pursuit

Lots of custom molded pursuit bars and more teams wearing that odd POC helmet that guys at huub watt bike like.
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Baby Puke beat me to it with the Dutch Men's team sprint comment. I was watching one of those Netflix shows on US College football, last chance U, and the coach said of one of his players he's the best athlete on the field no matter who they play. Jeffrey Hoogland makes me think of that comment a lot.

I'd like to see the NZ team Sprint podium but I don't know if they've got the power to get over the Dutch.

I have no idea regarding match sprint, though if Glaetzer wins it'll be exciting to watch.

Campbell Stewart for the Omnium and NZ's women's team Pursuit to go top 5.
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I see the dutch winning the TS...but I see their closest competitor being GB. They have this weird thing about turning it on in Olympic years, but the gap might be too much to the dutch to quite catch them.
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Originally Posted by Minion1 View Post
Baby Puke beat me to it with the Dutch Men's team sprint comment. I was watching one of those Netflix shows on US College football, last chance U, and the coach said of one of his players he's the best athlete on the field no matter who they play. Jeffrey Hoogland makes me think of that comment a lot.

I'd like to see the NZ team Sprint podium but I don't know if they've got the power to get over the Dutch.

I have no idea regarding match sprint, though if Glaetzer wins it'll be exciting to watch.

Campbell Stewart for the Omnium and NZ's women's team Pursuit to go top 5.
They should dominate the match sprint (Lavreisen and Hoogland) and have no reason they shouldn't win the keirin too (Buchli). No other nation has been close to them for a couple of seasons now.
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Originally Posted by carleton View Post
There will be at least one IP or TP participant using pedal toe straps (the kind sprinters commonly use).

I've been suggesting this for pursuiters to use for years as a way to eliminate friction/waste in their drivetrain. It's not just about fear of accidental disengagement.
You heard it here first - not a single person will use pedal toe straps for the IP at the Olympics.
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Whole thing will get cancelled due to corona virus
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Originally Posted by queerpunk View Post
You heard it here first - not a single person will use pedal toe straps for the IP at the Olympics.
It happened in Rio
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Originally Posted by nlaughton View Post
Whole thing will get cancelled due to corona virus
We may have 2021 Olympics.

I'm giving it about a 50/50 chance that we'll have Olympics this year. It may be entirely dependent on the cruise ship Diamond Princess, as well as how travel bans are treated. South Korea?

I'd anticipate several countries to be deemed as having the virus, but having several communities virus free.

If the current Coronavirus continues through the summer without an effective vaccine, then logistics will be a mess safeguarding both competitors, spectators, as well as countries from bringing the virus home.
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Originally Posted by carleton View Post
There will be at least one IP or TP participant using pedal toe straps (the kind sprinters commonly use).

I've been suggesting this for pursuiters to use for years as a way to eliminate friction/waste in their drivetrain. It's not just about fear of accidental disengagement.
drivetrain efficiency - aero inefficiency = net gain? Or would the straps go under a shoe cover somehow?
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Originally Posted by carleton View Post
This wheel is a new Zipp Tri Spoke that's based on the well-respected 808:
I'd expect to see a couple of teams on 2-spoke wheels.

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Originally Posted by carleton View Post
It happened in Rio
...and the IP hasn't been a part of the omnium since then.
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Originally Posted by queerpunk View Post
...and the IP hasn't been a part of the omnium since then.
I've seen Chinese women use them in WC TP.

EDIT: And I keep forgetting that IP isn't in the Olympics anymore. Sorry. I wish they would bring that back, along with the Kilo/500.

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Originally Posted by nosaad View Post
drivetrain efficiency - aero inefficiency = net gain? Or would the straps go under a shoe cover somehow?
1) I don't really see how straps are less efficient than current shoe tops (BOA, laces, straps)

2) Yes, you can put on booties over straps. This is common for sprinter who have a helper do it for them then push them out to the track.
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For those who are wondering if it has happened...

Rio Olympic Omnium bronze medalist Jolien D’hoore:



https://www.blsglobal.net/int/interview-jolien-dhoore/

I'm 99% sure that she rode them in IP in the Rio Olympics. Being that it's been so long, googling for images from her ride at Rio is hit or miss.

I'm not really up on where to find good photo galleries or videos to find more examples.
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A couple of man/woman on position 1 in the Team sprint rode Front spokes wheels at the world championships. 2 and 3 rode full Disc. Anyone know why? Better handling when they come out of the first corner?
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A couple of man/woman on position 1 in the Team sprint rode Front spokes wheels at the world championships. 2 and 3 rode full Disc. Anyone know why? Better handling when they come out of the first corner?
Assuming spoked wheels are lighter weight than full disc, perhaps there are marginal gains on acceleration?
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GB Hope/Lotus "spider" bike

I believe it will be a fail.
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Originally Posted by nlaughton View Post
Whole thing will get cancelled due to corona virus
I'm with you on this one.

Japan has cancelled school for March, and I'm sure they'll be willing to take more drastic measures if they feel it necessary. The culture is such that they will sacrifice self interest in the interest of the group.

Countries and areas with more elderly people will be especially affected since the virus seems to be much more lethal to those over 60. Based on the data from China, it seems that the fatality rate is low (0.2-0.4%) for those under 50, breaks 1% for 50-59, 3% for 60+, and 14% for 80+. I could see why, for example, Japan cancelled school for March - they have one of the oldest and densely packed populations around.

I think the entire season for everything is at risk. I'm talking F1 (they postponed China, a second Italian venue bid to hold a race, then Italy had the outbreak...), cycling Classics and Grand Tours, soccer, rugby.

I may be Chicken Little crying about the sky falling but I don't see much changing in the next few weeks.
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Here is Xiaofei Wang of China using straps in the 2020 World Championship Madison:



https://www.theguardian.com/sport/ga...ps-in-pictures

It's not a Pursuit event, but it's proof that top riders are using them in endurance events. I haven't found a gallery of Pursuit events.

EDIT: Apparently she also occasionally rides TP for China:
https://www.the-sports.org/xiaofei-w...spf477240.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclin...s_team_pursuit

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yeah people have been using straps forever.

the pursuit still isn't an olympic event though.
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So those are clipless pedals with toe straps? Extra support to prevent accidental pullouts?
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