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Mixed-Doubles Madisons?

Old 02-22-21, 08:43 AM
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Mixed-Doubles Madisons?

It's winter. Things are slow, but a thought occurred to me recently, has there ever been a coed Madison race?

I googled it, but best I could find was coed dorms at the University of Wisconsin- Madison. But, they do mixed doubles for tennis. It would be kind of neat to see how a male-female pair of racers would do.

There would definitely need to be some though behind the pairings. Having done a few Madison's myself, I recall how much easier it was with a partner smaller than me than one much larger than me. But still, it could be fun and interesting.
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I've never heard of it, but it does sound like it would be fun. You should hit Dale up at Lexus, sounds like it's up his alley.

I found my favorite part of the Madison was not maiming (or being maimed by) anyone at every exchange
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I've done some Madison exchanges with my wife, who is a good 50 lbs lighter than me.
She said it left her with sore arms and that it would have been easier for her with someone of similar weight.
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Real talk: What are the chances of finding 5 or more mixed pairs of Madison teams for an event? And if you do find 5 pairs, what are the chances of them being a fair match for each other?

That being said, there is sort of a precedence. I believe that team sprint in U.S. Collegiate Track Nationals is co-ed.
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Originally Posted by topflightpro
It's winter. Things are slow, but a thought occurred to me recently, has there ever been a coed Madison race?

I googled it, but best I could find was coed dorms at the University of Wisconsin- Madison. But, they do mixed doubles for tennis. It would be kind of neat to see how a male-female pair of racers would do.

There would definitely need to be some though behind the pairings. Having done a few Madison's myself, I recall how much easier it was with a partner smaller than me than one much larger than me. But still, it could be fun and interesting.
Not track but the World Champ Road TT was mixed last year.
The Netherlands win World Championships team time trial mixed relay | Cyclingnews
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Originally Posted by Morelock
I've never heard of it, but it does sound like it would be fun. You should hit Dale up at Lexus, sounds like it's up his alley.

I found my favorite part of the Madison was not maiming (or being maimed by) anyone at every exchange
Sure enough, Dale has a co-ed Madison as an exhibition event at Madison nationals next month (you have to open the schedule attachment to see it).
https://lexusvelodrome.com/nationals
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Originally Posted by 1incpa
I've done some Madison exchanges with my wife, who is a good 50 lbs lighter than me.
She said it left her with sore arms and that it would have been easier for her with someone of similar weight.
I read the headline and thought of the ballet team I used to go see in Seattle many years ago. Debra Hadley and Benjamin Houk. Hadley was a classic ballet principal, smallish and lightly built. In her last years as a dancer but still had it all. Benjamin Houk, a former (and maybe very good) high school wrestler? Then in his mid-twenties, not weigh-in weight but no fat and built like a brick wall. He could toss Hadley into the air as easily as a down pillow.

And and an aside re: ballet dancers. They are pros. Take injury in stride like the pro football players. My girlfriend knew Debra Hadley and told my of her surgeries. NFL qualifying. Later I was watching the two of them doing a goofy number with Houk doing cartwheels and somersaults over Hadley. A slight "oops" and Houk got her full in the gut with his elbow. She didn't wince, she did not break stride. I saw that and thought "like a pro quarterback going to the huddle after a very hard sack".
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If there is a big speed difference in the pairing, the slower rider will be the one attacked (guess how I know). Makes for quite a workout.
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We've run a co-ed Madison for a few years at the Jerry Baker Memorial Velodrome.
Pairings are tough, but we've managed to have some pretty exciting races nevertheless.
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Back in the 80's when the Major Taylor Velodrome in Indianapolis drew big names, a co-ed team raced in the men's madison. IIRC, it was Mark Gorski and Connie Paraskevin. When he threw her in she was a bullet.

On any Friday or Saturday night in the summer you could see Gorski, Connie, Neilson Vails, Curt Harnett, the Jamacian National Team race, and whomever else showed up from around the world, for under $10. Good times.
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