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Master Worlds 2021 LA

Old 05-01-21, 10:03 PM
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Master Worlds 2021 LA

Confirmed.
https://mastersworldsla.com/

My point is with "The Championship will consist of three sprint events (match sprints, 500-750-1000m time trial, team sprint) and four endurance events (pursuit, scratch race, points race, and team pursuit."
1) You need to join two other guys to practice the Team Sprint - same age bracket (10 years) and same nation, of course. Less than 1/3 of sprinters can match these conditions. In my case, I'll never have another two track Brazilian masters same age bracket, Never.
2) The short TT (500m, in my age case) have repeated or very similar results for years and years. It's a kind of watts/kg competition, low emotion, etc.
3) So, I'm one of these "sprinters" that pay for an expensive trip just to race on the Sprint Race.
4) Why don't we have Keirin on masters? Using same F200 Quali times, max 12 racers forming 2 semis, 1 only final to define 1 to 6, fast to organize, and not so predictable.
Than we'd have better balance between "sprint" and "enduro" races. 4 x 4..
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Old 05-02-21, 05:06 PM
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Clythio , I think they feel Keirin is too dangerous for old people. And they may be right, given the number of people who ride like they have never been on a track before that I've seen rock up at big-level masters races in the US. That said, we have keirin for old farts here in Japan, no issues that I've seen, but in general the track manners are better across the board here.
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Old 05-02-21, 08:17 PM
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I've heard that kind of justification before.
But having raced Master Worlds 2017/18/19, and having raced Sprint and Scratch in all of them, including making the semis and final on Scratch, and having watched the points racers, for example, I don't think Keirin would bring any different level of risk, considering the racers I've seen on the Sprint Match races.
I'm among those that don't like to crash, but wouldn't be afraid of racing a Keirin against the top 10 of the Sprint Match quali (even on the 60-64 age group we're more than 20 entries).
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Old 05-03-21, 09:30 AM
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I wouldn't buy any plane tickets yet. I've heard rumors that the dates may still change.
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Old 05-04-21, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by topflightpro View Post
I wouldn't buy any plane tickets yet. I've heard rumors that the dates may still change.
I've heard the same, about November, but now it seems to be confirmed at October 2-9.
Booked hotel - can be canceled - but not plane tickets.
And..... there will be a Keirin "Demo" race for top Quali times!! Will train harder to be on it!! ;-)
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Old 05-05-21, 06:00 PM
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I don't think it's going to be much of a "worlds" this year. Still, it's a good chance to race against some higher level riders
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Originally Posted by brawlo View Post
I don't think it's going to be much of a "worlds" this year. Still, it's a good chance to race against some higher level riders
You think? Given the end of year date, and Covid more under control (well, most places), coupled with a year+ off with no racing for many, I was thinking the opposite....that turnout might be greater. But you may be right, time will tell.
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Originally Posted by brawlo View Post
I don't think it's going to be much of a "worlds" this year. Still, it's a good chance to race against some higher level riders
This is what I've heard in regards to rumors around the date. They may push it back to assure more people can travel to the US, but it remains unclear whether many people will be ready to travel internationally this year.
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Old 05-06-21, 05:09 PM
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It's not so much about what the US offers, but what other countries have as restrictions. A LOT of countries, even if you can manage to fly to the US, will be putting returned travellers into quarantine which is time off work and potentially increased costs and I would bet a lot of money on that being the case right through to the end of 2021 and beyond. Here in Oz, they're still throwing around the prospect of limited travel OS at best right through 2022
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