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Old 03-13-18, 11:29 AM
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god, I could listen to Obree talk forever. his opening line in that video is just terrific.
I just watched the beginning to hear the line. Very cool.


I don't have time to finish the video now (working), but it reminds me of the fact that there is a lot of "bro science" in cycling. Very few things are questioned. The few people that question the few things that are questioned are given sh*t about it and are discouraged.

It's really obvious on forums. I like to think that I haven't been one to give someone shi*t for having a novel idea, but I probably have. I like to think that I have an open mind with which to approach things or hear new ideas. That being said, some forums (virtual or real) are worse than others.

"...because that's how we've always done it.", is the worst answer you'll ever hear to any question.
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Poking through photos from Worlds and I noticed that the Swiss women used Scattos. Ha. So, at this point, all bars can be considered appropriate for the Madison.

Those are the Danes, not the Swiss. Woman on the right is the former Road World Champ Amalie Dideriksen
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Old 03-14-18, 01:35 AM
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Those are the Danes, not the Swiss. Woman on the right is the former Road World Champ Amalie Dideriksen
Thanks for the correction!
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New frame on the block, 3.14 times more aero than a standard frame
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New frame on the block, 3.14 times more aero than a standard frame
Appropriate post for PI day.
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Given the right carbon lay up, that would probably be a pretty fast frame. I'm a fan.
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Bicycle a film on Amazon Prime Video (and elsewhere I'm sure)

B.A.F.T.A. Award-winning director and keen cyclist Michael B. Clifford tells the story of cycling in the land that invented the modern bicycle, tracking its birth, decline and re-birth from Victorian origins to today. "Bicycle" is a humorous, lyrical and warm reflection on the sport of cycling and the bicycle's place in the British national psyche.
Starring: Sir Dave Brailsford, Gary Fisher, Chris Boardman Runtime: 1 hour, 26 minutes
https://www.amazon.com/Bicycle-Sir-D.../dp/B0178FX95M

There is mention of track cycling. I've watched the first few minutes. Will finish in the next few days, time permitting.

EDIT: It's really good. A fair amount of focus on track cycling later in the film. Including the story about this bike and this ride (Boardman's catch in the 1992 Olympic IP gold medal ride)



It continues into modern track cycling as well.

It's basically a documentary about cycling in Britain from the beginning to modern times and the struggle to keep the activity thriving.

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Old 03-16-18, 07:21 AM
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The Penrose Park Velodrome in St Louis - called by some the "worst velodrome in the country" - is poised to fund a major repair/rebuild. The city has committed funds, bids came in a little higher than expected, and they're looking for a few thousand dollars to close the gap.

With the Superdrome going under, and the NSC only with two years of life left, well, it's great to see raceable tracks in the USA get *new* life.

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Old 03-16-18, 11:53 AM
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What % does gofundme get?

Edit: Their site says 2.9% + $0.30 (fee per transaction)

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Mind blowing para world champs live coverage
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Gary Sutton (of AUS fame) is now coaching Team USA: https://www.ridemedia.com.au/intervi...h-usa-cycling/

The arrangement seems to be working out OK


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Mind blowing para world champs live coverage
https://youtu.be/Gt3YPC8tpNY
Dude...they are FAST.

Results: Veloresults Live Timing

Jody Cundy rode a 1:04.579 kilo...that would have won US Elites last year (1:04.627).
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Dude...they are FAST.

Results: Veloresults Live Timing

Jody Cundy rode a 1:04.579 kilo...that would have won US Elites last year (1:04.627).
Hes not been beaten for 12 years at the kilo
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Dude...they are FAST.

Results: Veloresults Live Timing

Jody Cundy rode a 1:04.579 kilo...that would have won US Elites last year (1:04.627).
fwiw, the results sheet doesn't tell the whole story, the winner qualified with a 1.02.9 iirc.

and he's an enduro.
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Hes not been beaten for 12 years at the kilo
That's Hall of Fame status for sure.

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fwiw, the results sheet doesn't tell the whole story, the winner qualified with a 1.02.9 iirc.

and he's an enduro.
lol really?!
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yeah, it was incredible. Alvord had ridden a 1.03-something, and Croom went last.

On the screen they show the 125m splits, and your place based on it. He got out to a start that had him hovering in 7th place, 6th place for maybe the first two laps, and then he brought it down. At the bell he was 3rd, at the 125m-to-go split he was 2nd, and held his speed ... when he crossed the line that number flashed to 1. It was a really incredible ride, the whole infield was on its feet.
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That's awesome. Wouldve loved to see it in person.
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Looks like the Netherlands are playing the UCI Points game very well. Their Nation ranking could be the best of all right now (men's and women's). Just eyeballing, it looks like it's a tie between the Netherlands and Great Britain.

Track - Ranking

Cool to see USA's Jennifer Valente leading in Omnium points and Ashton Lambie 2nd in 4K points.
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Here's a recent study that finds that low volume, high intensity exercise (read: intervals or sprinting with recovery) provide life extending benefits on par with low intensity, high volume exercise (read: jogging, walking, etc...):

Moderate?to?Vigorous Physical Activity and All?Cause Mortality: Do Bouts Matter? | Journal of the American Heart Association

Mortality risk reductions associated with moderate‐to‐vigorous physical activity are independent of how activity is accumulated.
Meaning, it doesn't matter if you accumulate exercise time with steady-state work or intense intervals then recovery work.
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I noticed one rider in last Sunday's Gent-Wevelgem road race used narrow sprinter type bars (2:35 into youtube video
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You might have more luck in the Road forum. More eyes there.
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That rider is Ned's Jan Willem van Schip, who silvered in both the points and omnium in the recent WC's. I recall he also had a really narrow (and kinda high) track hand position. Impressive racing at GW, in the big break all day and survived to top ten (I think) at the finish.
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That rider is Ned's Jan Willem van Schip, who silvered in both the points and omnium in the recent WC's. I recall he also had a really narrow (and kinda high) track hand position. Impressive racing at GW, in the big break all day and survived to top ten (I think) at the finish.

They appear to be the same bars

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BLS interview with Josiah Ng: https://www.blsglobal.net/int/interview-josiah-ng/

How have things like training, gearing, tactics, etc. changed since you started to how they are now?

JN: I’m glad I raced during the years I raced and not now. The speeds that the current generation hold are insane. It is mostly due to the gigantic gears everyone pushes. When I first started racing on the international circuit back in 2000, I was pushing a 93-95 inch gear! It would be closer to a warm up gear these days! Tactics have had to evolve due to the larger gears. It’s more of a drag race now and small mistakes are amplified.
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How have things like training, gearing, tactics, etc. changed since you started to how they are now?

JN: I’m glad I raced during the years I raced and not now. The speeds that the current generation hold are insane. It is mostly due to the gigantic gears everyone pushes. When I first started racing on the international circuit back in 2000, I was pushing a 93-95 inch gear! It would be closer to a warm up gear these days! Tactics have had to evolve due to the larger gears. It’s more of a drag race now and small mistakes are amplified.
I think this needs to be expanded upon.

Tactics in sprinting have become more "limited". It's a more subtle game and the only mistakes left to make are small mistakes, and with the larger gears, it's much harder to recover. It's like going from walking a balance beam to walking a tightrope. The balance beam allows you to do much more than the tightrope, but the consequence of falling off is the same, you lose.
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