How's this for a energy drink?
 

Looks like some decent nutrition on top of the energy content.

Serving:

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Recipe Weight: 453.2g
General
Amount
% DV
Energy
1122.41
kcal
56.1%
Alcohol
0.00
g
Ash
2.84
g
Caffeine
0.00
mg
Water
173.09
g
11.5%
Carbohydrates
Amount
% DV
Carbs
274.11
g
91.4%
Fiber
0.67
g
2.7%
Starch
0.00
g
Sugars
240.70
g
Fructose
189.05
g
Galactose
0.00
g
Glucose
43.86
g
Lactose
0.00
g
Maltose
0.00
g
Sucrose
7.61
g
Lipids
Amount
% DV
Fat
1.51
g
2.3%
Monounsaturated
0.00
g
Polyunsaturated
0.00
g
Omega-3
0.00
g
Omega-6
0.00
g
Saturated
0.00
g
0.0%
Trans-Fats
0.00
g
Cholesterol
0.00
mg
0.0%
Phytosterol
0.00
mg
Protein
Amount
% DV
Protein
1.65
g
3.3%
Alanine
0.00
g
Arginine
0.00
g
Aspartic acid
0.00
g
Cystine
0.00
g
Glutamic acid
0.00
g
Glycine
0.00
g
Histidine
0.00
g
Hydroxyproline
0.00
g
Isoleucine
0.00
g
Leucine
0.00
g
Lysine
0.00
g
Methionine
0.00
g
Phenylalanine
0.00
g
Proline
0.00
g
Serine
0.00
g
Threonine
0.00
g
Tryptophan
0.00
g
Tyrosine
0.00
g
Valine
0.00
g
Vitamins
Amount
% DV
B1 (Thiamine)
0.42
mg
28.0%
B12 (Cobalamin)
0.00
µg
0.0%
B2 (Riboflavin)
0.57
mg
33.5%
B3 (Niacin)
2.62
mg
13.1%
B5 (Pantothenic Acid)
0.25
mg
2.5%
B6 (Pyridoxine)
1.04
mg
52.2%
Biotin
0.00
µg
0.0%
Choline
48.46
mg
Folate
101.08
µg
25.3%
Vitamin A
524.17
IU
10.5%
Alpha-carotene
0.00
µg
Beta-carotene
315.84
µg
Beta-cryptoxanthin
0.00
µg
Lutein+Zeaxanthin
0.00
µg
Lycopene
0.00
µg
Retinol
0.00
µg
Retinol Activity Equivalent
26.32
µg
Vitamin C
57.12
mg
95.2%
Vitamin D
0.00
IU
0.0%
Vitamin E
3.29
mg
16.4%
Beta Tocopherol
0.00
mg
Delta Tocopherol
0.00
mg
Gamma Tocopherol
0.00
mg
Vitamin K
75.60
µg
94.5%
Minerals
Amount
% DV
Calcium
273.57
mg
27.4%
Chromium
0.00
µg
Copper
0.61
mg
30.4%
Fluoride
0.00
µg
Iodine
0.00
µg
Iron
1.27
mg
7.1%
Magnesium
138.91
mg
34.7%
Manganese
0.76
mg
37.8%
Phosphorus
14.70
mg
1.5%
Potassium
619.27
mg
17.7%
Selenium
10.76
µg
15.4%
Sodium
54.59
mg
2.3%
Zinc
0.32
mg
2.1%

Looks like pure sugar water to me, it even lacks important amino acids. I refuse to put this type of garbage inside my body.

Nah ....

if you want something good, look at Solgar Omnium vitamin tablets ... but only take one a day on the days you ride ...

http://www.arnoldsupplements.com/v/v...nt%20label.jpg

This works well

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/h...wheels/nos.jpg

Cryptoxanthin... it's what plants crave.


Also, does that say 1,122kcal? I haven't had that much intake today, I rode 40 miles, and it's 2 in the afternoon. I would have to ride up a vertical wall to the top of the troposphere to need 1100 calories of "refueling."

Is the OP (really hard to read) list a home brew concoction or off of some commercial product?

You can burn 4000 Calories on a mountainous century, and at some point need to replace the ~1000 which came from glycogen. While I don't eat on rides under 4 hours, I snacked 1000 Calories of Clif bars plus a cookie for ~1100 total on last week's 3700kj 108 mile / 6500 foot ride. Some people think 250 Calories/hour is a better feeding rate than 125 and eat 1000 Calorieson a 4-hour ride.

Then there are 200 km, 300 km, 200 mile, 400k, and longer rides.....

Calorie content aside, I'd pass because I like my food in solid form apart from soup and an occasional milk shake or warm coffee drink which wouldn't work well in a water bottle. Jello is otherwise the closest I come to drinking it with doctor's orders for a liquid diet.

250 calories an hour just seems insane to me.

Why? You can absorb around 60 grams of carbs an hour - maybe more if there's a fructose/glucose mix - so that's roughly 250kcal. You're going to be burning far more than that, and while hopefully most will come directly from fat stores, there's no harm in making sure the sugar is available.

Personally I don't eat anything on rides under three hours, and just drink water. But on a ride of four or more hours I'll start eating after an hour and shoot for 250kcal per hour thereafter. Like @Drew Eckhardt I prefer solid food to energy drinks. Works for me, and I'm still going to be in significant calorie deficit at the end of the ride.

Incidentally, what is the point of the OP? Ridiculously long and hard to read, and makes no point.

What is it?

At a casual glance, it looks like sugar water with a multi-vitamin stirred in.

1 oz blackstrap molasses, 8 oz agave nectar, 3oz water.

Agave nectar is about 98% fructose and it's no different then drinking pure HFCS. Agave nectar is pure garbage, and it costs 5 times as much as other types of sugar. You're paying all that extra money to destroy your health and screw up your metabolism...You don't need fructose, what you need is glucose. You need to get the bulk of your carbs from starches instead of sugars, real food is a lot better and healthier.

Never tried it, just playing around on cronometer to see what different things look like. I prefer not to drink my calories, but to get them when off the bike via real "whole" foods.

HFCS is about 50% fructose so Agave nectar is not really close to HFCS.

Drinking glucose and fructose while riding is not going to mess up your metabolism and you can ingest a higher number of calories per hour if you combine glucose and fructose vs glucose alone.

I don't understand the seemingly arbitrary restrictions most folks on here put on themselves with regards to eating when on the bike. "No food under three hours, no food under 50 miles, etc." Sometimes I eat on a 20 mile ride. Sometimes I don't eat on a Metric. I never leave the house and think, "oh, only doing 45 miles this morning, no snacks!" If I'm hungry I eat, If I'm not I don't. So the same philosophy transfers over to the 250kcal/hr thing-- I have never planned out how much I'm going to intake per hour in advance. Hungry, eat, not hungry, don't. Sometimes, chocolate milk. :P

I live by my user title.

What I meant to say was that agave is just as unhealthy as HFCS.... and yes you are correct about HFCS having less fructose then agave syrup, which means that agave is a lot worse and more unhealthy then most other sweeteners.

Maybe it's unhealthy if you're not exercising but there's nothing unhealthy about using it as a fuel source when riding.

On today's ride I drank a bottle of coke. I drink maybe a couple of cokes a year. On a 3 1/2 hr ride I don't think it's unhealthy to drink coke. Drinking it every day, on the other hand, might not be a great idea.

Some people (like myself) are training for situations on the bike where a better ability to metabolize fat will be helpful- in my instance, a long timed event (114 miles/12000 ft climbing) in which I will be trying to beat my time from last year. Because I will be riding intensely, it will be harder for me to digest food, so have well-trained ability to mobilize fat could give me a competitive advantage over the other women in the field (unless they train the same as I do, which they likely do). Also, in long events ridden at a race pace, your ability to digest food diminishes over time. So again, a well-trained ability to burn fat is helpful.

Some people (like myself) are also trying to manage weight. There are a great many times throughout the day where I may feel some sense of hunger, whether on the bike or off the bike. If its a mild niggling thing that can be ignored, I often do so. I'm not too likely to ignore it if I have 4 more hours of riding. But if I'm an hour from stopping for coffee with my friends anyway, I'm not too likely to worry about eating on the bike.

As far as having a plan for eating on the bike, it really depends on what you're doing. It sounds like you are just casually riding around and your casual approach to nutrition and hydration is fine for you, Way different for someone who is racing ultra events. I go into those with a very specific nutrition and hydration plan. I know exactly how many calories I have on the bike and when I will eat them. I have periods were my hydration is just calories (honey and water) and other periods where it's calories plus electrolytes (Skratch) and I know how many particles of digestible stuff I want hitting my GI tract per unit time. It's just a way different thing and I can pretty much guarantee your casual approach would not work too well in an ultra race.

So you may not understand what other cyclists are doing, it may seem "arbitrary" to you. Lol, that does not mean it actually *is* arbitrary however. There's lots of sound reasons behind these decisions. :)

It isn't a question of imposing restrictions. I don't take food on 3 hour rides because I never need food on 3 hour rides. But if I'm going to be out for over four hours I know I'll probably need to eat, I know it is foolish to wait until I'm ccompletely glycogen depleted before starting to eat, and I see no reason to eat more - or less - than I know I can absorb in the time.

Keep going with that. We stopped using sports/energy drinks on our rides years ago (except on occasional 200 km+ rides) and I know I feel better for it. Just pack a couple good quality granola bars in case you get hungry.

Yeah, this is pretty much what most of us do. :)

But on rides over the metric century length, I do find it beneficial to pay a bit more attention to how many calories I'm eating and when.

I don't, however, get too hung up on exactly what I'm eating. It might be a banana, a granola bar, an ice cream, a chicken sandwich ... or whatever. :)

light salt brine is best~

The drink in the first post contains 189 grams of fructose and 44 grams of glucose, which is 145 grams of "net fructose" which can cause abdominal bloating, gas and diarrhea, if you drink it a lot, especially if you have fructose malabsorption.
Fructose malabsorption, low-fructose diet

In short, I think such sugar composition would make stomach problems to many people.

Am I the only one that thinks a post-workout beer and chips/salsa is a good thing?

[QUOTE=deapee;18674146]Am I the only one that thinks a post-workout beer and chips/salsa is a good thing?[/QUOTE

Post workout?! How 'bout ​pre-workout? ;)