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Old 02-11-16, 03:15 PM
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Eating clean and 100% Benefits?

just asking if anyone on here eats almost 100% clean on and off the bike, like no junk, all natural foods, as in no gels , cookies etc
just things like fruit etc.
If so have you seen any benefits? increase in performance, how you feel? general everyday health etc? thanks
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Yup, feel great. I do take a gel or two during a race but looking to replace that with raisins or dates, maybe not. Podiumed every race last year and so far this year too. Not that that says much but in terms of numbers, but they are still increasing after a few years of race oriented training and a lifetime of athletic pursuits including running before cycling. Skin looks great, lots of energy, sleep well, etc. I do cook a lot and eat a ton of low calorie, high nutrient veggies.
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"running before cycling" do you run before you bike? also before a bike race? how long you run? u think good warm up for a bike race? etc?
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Originally Posted by CanadianBiker32 View Post
"running before cycling" do you run before you bike? also before a bike race? how long you run? u think good warm up for a bike race? etc?
Sorry, I meant that I ran for years before getting into bicycle racing. Mostly long distance, so my FTP hasn't changed much since my first year bicycle racing but I am making gains on shorter durations still. I do not run anymore. I believe in specialization, for the most part, to have the highest performance. I take up running and lifting in the off season for a couple months, mostly to mix things up and freshen up the mind. I would never run before a bike race. If we were talking cyclocross, this would be a different discussion but I do road races and HC TTs only. Also, if I wasn't so focused on racing well, I'd probably run here and there.
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Eating 100% clean is actually an eating disorder. Only vegans eat like that
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I eat a natural pisco-vegetarian diet in my normal life. Never junk food, well except for a little dark chocolate and a beer once a week. But on the bike I eat pretty much nothing but "junk" food: anything that'll get from my mouth to bloodstream as quickly as possible without upsetting my stomach. So that's super low-fiber stuff, mostly sugar variants and whey protein, with a sports bar or Fig Newman being as close to natural foods as I'll get. Gimme white bread sandwich, gimme Hostess fruit pie, and I'll have that sucker down in 2 minutes and be back on my bike and outa there.
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"Eating clean" is very hard to define.
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Majority of world class athletes don't eat 100% clean, many of them eat what is considered junk food and they still perform great. Athletic performance is mostly the result of training, tenacious mentality, never give up attitude, genetics and talents which you have in you...Eating brown rice is no better then eating white rice, actually white rice is better then brown rice if you are an athlete.
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Google "orthorexia."
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Originally Posted by CanadianBiker32 View Post
just asking if anyone on here eats almost 100% clean on and off the bike
I eat what my traditional Gulf Coast cuisine provides: fresh local seafood, a variety of garden veg as the seasons provide, lots of rice, boudin, andouille, free range chicken, grits, chicory coffee and fresh baked bread all well seasoned.

100% clean? Of course it is, all home cooked/locally prepared with care and culture.

On the bike a gel or bar is easier to carry than a gumbo.....

There is a constant confusion in this sub-forum that considers food to be simply fuel, when it is actually Culture.
If you ate what my grandmother served, and what we put on the table today, you would have a well balanced tasty diet with lots of variety served with respect. Do better than that.



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Originally Posted by Machka View Post
"Eating clean" is very hard to define.
You are so right! I've observed that discussing diet is like discussing religion - lots of belief supported by little fact. The problem, as I see it, is that scientific research on diet because of the multiple variables is notoriously difficult to control with double blind placebo studies, for example. Most of the research is retrospective, short term, or based on self-reporting. Add to that what we know about diet from studying diabetics - just like with drugs, people respond differently to the same food.

That being said I do believe in avoiding refined carbohydrates, hydrogenated oils, and processed food in general. My ancestors (both sides of the family, in Sweden) lived long lives back into the early 1800's - not a single premature death. Not all of them were farmers, but the one thing I know for sure is that they all ate "whole" foods. There may be something in that for me personally.
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Originally Posted by Machka View Post
"Eating clean" is very hard to define.
You're right...Every person has their own definition of what eating clean means...To me personally what I believe is that there are no "bad foods"...The only two foods that have been proven so far to have negative health effects are some of the modern manmade foodstuffs such as trans fats and refined sugars...everything else is fine...But even sugar may not be as bad as some people make it to be, I think that proper timing of when to eat sugar is more important then avoiding it altogether.
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I personally dislike the term "processed" because it's fairly vague and means different things to different people. Some people almost take it to the extreme that anything you didn't grow or slaughter yourself is "processed". I also dislike that it often carries an undertone of morality, as if certain foods are actually evil, while others are for the enlightened. Turning food into a religion is just silly IMHO.

IMHO there are plenty of processed/packaged foods available that can be part of a healthy, well-balanced diets. I think taking any dietary guideline to radical extremes and severely limiting what you eat is counterproductive.
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You are so right! I've observed that discussing diet is like discussing religion - lots of belief supported by little fact. The problem, as I see it, is that scientific research on diet because of the multiple variables is notoriously difficult to control with double blind placebo studies, for example. Most of the research is retrospective, short term, or based on self-reporting. Add to that what we know about diet from studying diabetics - just like with drugs, people respond differently to the same food.

That being said I do believe in avoiding refined carbohydrates, hydrogenated oils, and processed food in general. My ancestors (both sides of the family, in Sweden) lived long lives back into the early 1800's - not a single premature death. Not all of them were farmers, but the one thing I know for sure is that they all ate "whole" foods. There may be something in that for me personally.
Michael Pollan had some good advice to avoid foods that your great grandmother would have trouble recognizing as food. Not as in limiting it to her specific ethnic or cultural circumstances but in the sense of closeness to the original source.
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I definitely try to eat as healthily as possible.

For breakfast, I'll eat lots of fresh fruit, porridge, and muesli. Items which will slowly release energy through the day.

For lunch, depending where I am, things like salads, jacket potatoes, fresh vegetables with rice or pasta, grilled chicken and so on.

For dinner it would be something like a pasta bake, rice or grilled steak and a salad.

I avoid alcohol and fatty foods completely and only eat chocolate and occasional "junk food" at times like Christmas or at the end of the season.

The key is to keep it varied as much as possible and try to avoid temptation.
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clean natural food make us physical health but junk food and sugar can make us feel happy will good to mental.
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I don't know about clean, but I started trying to follow the Primal Blueprint a few months ago and immediately saw/felt some changes. Prior to this I was on a high carb, but low calorie diet. Lots of "carbing up" for rides, Clif bars, gel by the bulk, etc.

The first thing I noticed when switching to the Primal Blueprint was that my thirst decreased quite a bit. Maybe 50% or better.

The second thing was that what I considered arthritis in my hands immediately went away.

Other nagging aches and pains that I attributed to old age also slowly faded away.

I was also prone to being "hangry" where if I didn't get a meal at a very specific time, I would get testy. That went. Now I can fast even.

Along with that went the "sugar shakes" and roller coaster of up and down energy levels. No more sugar highs or lows.

The first week or two my energy was low, but once that passed, my energy levels are nice, even and sustained now.

I also stopped losing "weight" and started losing fat. Instead of dropping muscle and water, I am losing fat. Clothes getting looser.

Along with this, I can go longer on the bike without food or water, but I am purposefully going slower as well as I no longer feel that I have to pedal like a maniac to lose weight.
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Eating clean for a professional rider may be one thing but for a recreational rider who does race events in a non paid way?
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On the "fuel" side, I know cyclists who solved all their eating problems by switching over and simply regarding all food as "fuel." Which it is. I think that moves mindfulness in eating in a positive direction.
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Originally Posted by Carbonfiberboy View Post
On the "fuel" side, I know cyclists who solved all their eating problems by switching over and simply regarding all food as "fuel." Which it is.
So what cooking techniques do you use to put on the table a palatable, tasty and nutritious "Fuel"?
Do you have a strong and vibrant local/family cuisine to base "Re-fueling" upon?

What "eating problems" are addressed by cyclists that you know by
regarding all food as "fuel."?
How would that differ from a well balanced tasty diet with lots of variety based on whole local foods?

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So what cooking techniques do you use to put on the table a palatable, tasty and nutritious "Fuel"?
Do you have a strong and vibrant local/family cuisine to base "Re-fueling" upon?

What "eating problems" are addressed by cyclists that you know by
How would that differ from a well balanced tasty diet with lots of variety based on whole local foods?

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My cultural "cuisine" would be the typical American diet, which I don't use. Off the bike we eat Med style. I've been sort of a natural foods piscaterian for almost 50 years. But I don't only eat whole foods. I do better when I include some processed stuff where the macros of a standard natural foods diet would leave me short on fats or protein or carbs. I'll eat meat if I'm touring somewhere and that's all there is.

Eating problems I've seen: Bulemia, anorexia, living on Gummi Bears, eating ice cream and peanut butter from the container with a spoon, etc., etc. As above, some fellow riders suffer from orthorexia, defining their diet by what they won't eat.

OTOH, there are folks who eat by their macros - "as long as it fits my macros," which IMO ignores a bit of the fueling idea which includes getting micro as well as macronutrients.

Differences: on the bike I eat nothing that's balanced, tasty, or has variety. I use fuel. Off the bike, I supplement as seems good to me with concentrated stuff to make up the macros I want. I'm always messing with it, trying to get just the right combo for best endurance, muscle maintenance, and moderately low body fat. I don't remember if I read it here or heard it from a friend: a guy in front of her in line at the grocery store was buying a gallon of cream. She asked him what he was going to do with it. Answer: "Drink it." Bodybuilder. Sometimes an ordinary natural foods diet just doesn't cut it.

I'm talking about mindfulness in eating for performance. It's a requirement. Stage racers don't eat random stuff. I don't either.
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"eating ice cream and peanut butter from the container with a spoon"

so that is bad huh?
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Originally Posted by wolfchild View Post
Eating 100% clean is actually an eating disorder. Only vegans eat like that
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I eat very clean... Not a lot of highly processed food's. But I'm no fanatic either! How do I feel? I feel great, but I think that has more to do with emotional stability than what brand of cereal I buy. If you want to "feel healthy"..... Get a good night's sleep.
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Originally Posted by Garfield Cat View Post
Eating clean for a professional rider may be one thing but for a recreational rider who does race events in a non paid way?
Define "recreational".

Although we are "amateur" cyclists who have a full time job, many of the members at my club eat, sleep, train and compete around that in our spare time in local, regional and national level events.
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"eating ice cream and peanut butter from the container with a spoon"

so that is bad huh?
Yes, that's really horrible, regrettable behavior, the start of a long slide into an inability to connect eating habits with various physical problems.
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