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Old 01-30-17, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Carbonfiberboy
I use TrainingPeaks for everything. It gives me a heart rate based training stress score (hrTSS) for every activity. Works well for me. Lift skiing is a little weird because it also counts heart beats on the chair. OTOH, HR responds slowly to activity in a conditioned skier so the hrTSS during the DH skiing is probably a good bit low. Seems like it balances out. I get a hrTSS of ~70/hr on the bike and ~40/hr lift skiing.

Training stress is basically about HR which reflects physiologic stress which builds up over time. If one uses a PM on the bike to get a TSS but does many different activities it's harder to get a handle on total training stress. Of course we recover from muscular stress differently than from overall aerobic stress. So sometimes my hrTSS will tell me I'm good to go, but my legs don't have it because I squatted the day before. From gym work, I get a relatively low hrTSS of ~40/hr, about the same as DH skiing or a recovery spin on my rollers. But overall, using a HRM for every activity and then the Dashboard on premium TrainingPeaks gives me a good handle on my fitness and readiness to train.

Of course skiing DH or XC isn't the same training as cycling but who cares? Not I. I train and perform to have fun. It's all fun. My main interest in the training thing is to manage total stress so I get better but don't overcook it and then lose hard-won fitness. And of course cycling doesn't do much for bone strength and for whole body training. Skiing of all sorts is very good for a long and active life, IMO. Skiing helps my riding and vice versa.
I'm definitely appreciating all the great advice. Sounds like I'd really benefit from giving Training Peaks a try. I guess my real goal with this is to make sure I'm in shape for the longer spring rides coming up.
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By the way, I just ordered a second pair of skis, for chunky roads and light meadow skipping. These should be great for a trip up to Artist Point or the ungroomed trails through some of the Blewett Pass sno parks. I'll probably test them out in the Mountain Loop area when they arrive.

Madshus Glittertind MGV+. I'm planning to use the boots I have now, but I think I'll need shorter poles. I got a screaming deal on the skis, and the poles will probably cost more.

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Alpine ski touring is particularly popular in Europe where a there is a long tradition of off piste skiing. The link to to a favorite video of a very popular event known as the Glacier Patrol between France and Switzerland. Of special interest to me is how smooths the skiers look going up the mountain. It is in French but that does not matter.
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest
I'm definitely appreciating all the great advice. Sounds like I'd really benefit from giving Training Peaks a try. I guess my real goal with this is to make sure I'm in shape for the longer spring rides coming up.
Are you doing the WTS rides? They're really SIR rides but are also posted on Cascade. We've been really sick but have gotten in 1 on my single and two on the tandem, except now we're sick again. We were DFL on that last one. Hoping we can do the Carbonado ride this coming Saturday. Too bad the weather will be crappy. After the WTS there'll be a 200k SIR brevet and then the Ramrod Training Series (RTS) will start in April.
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Hey, I might get to finally do this after all. December brought health issues when there was snow - now, finally, no surgical wounds to worry about falling onto, no respiratory infections. When I was recovered from those, January brought very unseasonably mild weather for almost 3 weeks - no snow, lots of rain and a few quick ice storms that melted the next day as the temps rose.

Finally, it's almost February - I'm healthy and it's cold! And, snow coming at last, currently about a scant inch on the ground, but tomorrow night, 2-4, and cold for at least 2 weeks.

Woo hoo!
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Finally, it's almost February - I'm healthy and it's cold! And, snow coming at last, currently about a scant inch on the ground, but tomorrow night, 2-4, and cold for at least 2 weeks.

Woo hoo!
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Would you trust REI to mount bindings, including drilling the skis? Or should I take this to a specialty shop like Second Ascent?

I can get it done at REI without having to use my car. Second Ascent would mean driving across town and then trying to park in Ballard. I hate city driving.
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@Carbonfiberboy, you've been full of incredibly great advice. Maybe you'll have some more?

I have very nice poles for groomed trails. They're 157.5 mm and I'm 6'1" tall. I need to get backcountry poles for chunky roads and meadow skipping. Any thoughts on how I should size them? I don't want to go adjustable because I want to do some longer tours and I'd like to keep the weight down.
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest
@Carbonfiberboy, you've been full of incredibly great advice. Maybe you'll have some more?

I have very nice poles for groomed trails. They're 157.5 mm and I'm 6'1" tall. I need to get backcountry poles for chunky roads and meadow skipping. Any thoughts on how I should size them? I don't want to go adjustable because I want to do some longer tours and I'd like to keep the weight down.
The BC skiers who gave me advice all use Black Diamond adjustable poles. They get 'em from backcountry.com. So that's what I have. They're not clunky.

Edit: They cut the straps off. If you haven't already, you should sign up for the Mountaineers Avy 1 course next winter.
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Riffing off my previous, there's a heckuva ice layer about 8" down right now. More snow coming. Here's where to go for forecasts: Northwest Avalanche Center ? Avalanche Region Forecast

The daughter of a friend of mine had a close girl friend killed on the Lake 22 trail, if you can imagine that. That is avalanche greenery that we go through in summer . . .
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Now that I'm getting back on the bike, I keep doing rides with really big intensity factors. Usually > 1.2, my weekly hill repeats are 1.5+, even when I'm fatigued it's high. It sounds like I need to do an FTP test. But I've barely been on the bike all winter, no long rides, whenever I would have had time for that I drove to Snoqualmie and went skiing instead. Is it possible that cross country skiing could have raised my FTP?
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