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Old 06-28-17, 03:33 AM
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Originally Posted by FXjohn
Beef isn't healthy.

Do you really believe everything you read on internet ??
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Originally Posted by wolfchild
Do you really believe everything you read on internet ??
For instance you're on the internet and I don't believe what you say. So, no.
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Originally Posted by FXjohn
Beef isn't healthy.
Please elaborate. Unless you are talking about folks that eat "beef" for bfast, lunch and dinner...no need.
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Originally Posted by JagR
Please elaborate. Unless you are talking about folks that eat "beef" for bfast, lunch and dinner...no need.
If I eat a serving of broccoli and apple at every meal, is that unhealthy?
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Originally Posted by FXjohn
If I eat a serving of broccoli and apple at every meal, is that unhealthy?
Very! Sure that = too much of something
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Originally Posted by 79pmooney
An aside, something I read years ago. Bleached flour, the great agriculture/industry breakthrough. The "food" that the bugs wouldn't eat. Finally a solution to the bane of farmers with silos. So people are willing to eat what the bugs won't. What a concept.

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Bleached flour is all kinds of bad.

Just like it took 200 years for them to finally admit that the cure for scurvy (which killed millions) was simple citrus fruit,
I believe that many years from now it will be admitted that modern bleached flour is the cause of multiple diseases and ailments
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Originally Posted by EL LUCHADOR
Bleached flour is all kinds of bad.

Just like it took 200 years for them to finally admit that the cure for scurvy (which killed millions) was simple citrus fruit,
I believe that many years from now it will be admitted that modern bleached flour is the cause of multiple diseases and ailments
A funny story I read years ago re: scurvy (and ancient knowledge). An early English exploration party sailed up the Canada east coast to the mouth to the St Laurence. Winter was approaching so they anchored, knowing they had plenty of stores to make it through the winter. They became iced in. Not a problem. Then experienced several visits from the local native americans. As the winter progressed, so did the symptoms of scurvy. After one of these visits, the natives went to their medicine man and said "Those guys out there look really bad! You've got tho help them!" Medicine man takes the trek out there, looks and returns with roots or bark and distributes them to the crew. (I read this years ago and I cannot remember what he brought, but it was very common.) Everybody on board improved a lot; some to levels of health they had never experienced before.

The huge breakthrough for the English was vitamon C from a fruit halfway around the world. The natives of our lands just went into the woods with a knife.

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Originally Posted by EL LUCHADOR
Bleached flour is all kinds of bad.

Just like it took 200 years for them to finally admit that the cure for scurvy (which killed millions) was simple citrus fruit,
I believe that many years from now it will be admitted that modern bleached flour is the cause of multiple diseases and ailments
scurvy is caused when people try to live off from meat. peppers for example have a lot of vitamin C
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Originally Posted by 79pmooney
A funny story I read years ago re: scurvy (and ancient knowledge). An early English exploration party sailed up the Canada east coast to the mouth to the St Laurence. Winter was approaching so they anchored, knowing they had plenty of stores to make it through the winter. They became iced in. Not a problem. Then experienced several visits from the local native americans. As the winter progressed, so did the symptoms of scurvy. After one of these visits, the natives went to their medicine man and said "Those guys out there look really bad! You've got tho help them!" Medicine man takes the trek out there, looks and returns with roots or bark and distributes them to the crew. (I read this years ago and I cannot remember what he brought, but it was very common.) Everybody on board improved a lot; some to levels of health they had never experienced before.

The huge breakthrough for the English was vitamon C from a fruit halfway around the world. The natives of our lands just went into the woods with a knife.

Ben
cool story. So interesting how many ailments can be cured, or caused ,by our choice of food.
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Originally Posted by FXjohn
scurvy is caused when people try to live off from meat.

No it's not caused by eating meat...Scurvy is caused by not getting enough vitamin C for an extended period of time...For many centuries people who live up North have figured out how to prevent scurvy even when fresh fruits and veggies weren't available.
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Originally Posted by 79pmooney
A funny story I read years ago re: scurvy (and ancient knowledge). An early English exploration party sailed up the Canada east coast to the mouth to the St Laurence. Winter was approaching so they anchored, knowing they had plenty of stores to make it through the winter. They became iced in. Not a problem. Then experienced several visits from the local native americans. As the winter progressed, so did the symptoms of scurvy. After one of these visits, the natives went to their medicine man and said "Those guys out there look really bad! You've got tho help them!" Medicine man takes the trek out there, looks and returns with roots or bark and distributes them to the crew. (I read this years ago and I cannot remember what he brought, but it was very common.) Everybody on board improved a lot; some to levels of health they had never experienced before.

The huge breakthrough for the English was vitamon C from a fruit halfway around the world. The natives of our lands just went into the woods with a knife.

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Native Americans who live up North used an infusion or tea made from chopped up pine needles and inner bark to prevent and cure scurvy...Any evergreen tree such as pine, spruce, fir will work.
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Originally Posted by wolfchild
Native Americans who live up North used an infusion or tea made from chopped up pine needles and inner bark to prevent and cure scurvy...Any evergreen tree such as pine, spruce, fir will work.

Not to mention dandelion leaves, ramps, etc. -- basically the first thing to turn green that didn't kill grandmother in the spring.
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If you do it right, it can be way cheaper than the SAD.
I am not a vegetarian, but I only eat meat maybe once every other week because good meat is expensive.
If you want to be healthy and cheap, then you will have to do a lot of the prep work and cooking yourself. Me and my family buy a lot of whole foods like dried beans, lentils, whole wheat etc and make meals out of those. We bake our own bread, make our own pasta and try to do everything we can to be as homemade as possible. This makes it much, much healthier as well as WAAAAAAY better tasting. Being a lot cheaper is just an added bonus.
Buy dried and frozen produce and fresh items only if they are in season. Seasonal produce is cheaper and healthier anyway. A combination of cycling and switching to this diet has done miracles for my health.
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I eat McDonald's, BK, Wendy's and Chic-Fil-A daily and am in the best shape of my life...
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Originally Posted by JagR
I eat McDonald's, BK, Wendy's and Chic-Fil-A daily and am in the best shape of my life...

That means nothing. You could be in better shape.
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Originally Posted by FXjohn
That means nothing. You could be in better shape.
Better compared to?

Should I + in some Dominos or Papa John's?!?
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you could be in the best shape of your life if you actually ate healthy food. derp.
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Originally Posted by FXjohn
you could be in the best shape of your life if you actually ate healthy food. derp.
I haven't had fast food in years....read further up the thread
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Looked at all these nutritionists ...
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The cost of healthy food is more expensive in the beginning. But once you start eating healthy and losing weight, you eat less. Junk food, inexpensive carbs create more desire and you end up gaining weight and eventually eating more cheap food. Who eats just potatoe chips, usually you want salty and sweet so add some ice cream. Carbs raise your sugar and you want more food in an hour or so, so you eat more food. It is an endless cycle. After you eat a healthy meal, you don't want chips and donuts especially once you have been eating healthy for a couple of weeks.
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Originally Posted by BluFalconActual
If you do it right, it can be way cheaper than the SAD.
Add in growing a garden. Fresh, homegrown tomatoes FTW!!
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