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Old 02-08-18, 06:20 PM
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Wahoo Snap or Kickr

Ok... this may have been discussed somewhere on the forum but I could not find it. So if it has I apologize. Anyone have experience with both of these trainers and if so, is double the price for the kickr worth it? Thank you for your time.
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Old 02-08-18, 10:50 PM
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I own a Kickr and have never used a Snap. From my perspective, not having to buy an extra trainer wheel/tire and not having to stop 10 minutes into every ride to do a calibration more than makes up for the extra $600 over the life of the trainer. That is not even considering the slightly better accuracy, max wattage and road feel that you get with the Kickr.
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Old 02-08-18, 11:27 PM
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From what I've read and knowing a high tech savvy health pro who's avid about training for triathlons, Wahoo must be the way to go although something as basic the number of miles ridden (which any indoor trainer generally has no problem with) is apparently not part of the program...
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Old 02-09-18, 04:27 AM
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I own a KickR now and a wheel-on dumb trainer in the past. Buy good stuff and you only cry once. I love my KickR and have no trouble knowing how far I went. You can expect them to go up in price as I did see them out of stock in many places (even Wahoo). Smart trainers are the future if you deal with winter months.
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Old 02-09-18, 09:42 AM
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My experience with Kickr has been poor. I bought a Kickr for myself and a Snap for the wife. Twice the optical sensor on my kickr failed and had to be replaced. Then after it was well out of warranty it was bricked by firmware update so I ended up getting a Tacx Neo which has been problem-free.

My wife's snap just recently failed and I'm not sure if it's still under warranty or not. It seems to be same problem my Kickr originally had where no speed/power is reported (not sure if it uses the same optical sensor as my old Kickr).

That said I definitely recommend direct-drive over wheel-on if you care about accuracy and consistency (and if you don't why are you spending that much on a trainer). Just too many variables that affect the consistency of a wheel-on trainer.
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Old 02-10-18, 06:42 AM
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Made decision

Thanks for the replies. My LBS had a 20% off sale on all trainers and I had a store credit I forgot about. Picked up a Kickr for 900. Now I need someone younger than me to set it up for me. Lol.
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Old 02-11-18, 07:36 PM
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I have a Snap and it's perfect for me. But if you plan to ride the thing all year, get the Kickr. It's better. I ride a trainer three months; the rest of the time I'm on the road.
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Old 02-12-18, 10:00 AM
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I went with the Kickr SNAP for 2 reason:
  1. The SNAP was 1/2 the price and I didn't need the added precision or higher wattage capability.
  2. The bike I put down in the basement on the trainer is an old Trek 520 with a 9 speed cassette, I would have either had to buy another cassette for the Kicker or mess with spacers, etc.

Over a year on the SNAP (about 1200 miles on Zwift, a few more on VirtuGO) and I'm still happy with the decision. I very rarely have to do a spin-down calibration - if I pump up the rear tire periodically to the same pressure, the numbers on the spin-down don't change at all. So, I only do after removing/replacing the bike, or once a month or so.

I had one problem - some slop appeared in the drum. Wahoo service sent me instructions to loosen, then tighten set screws on the drum and to tighten to flywheel axle - problem solved.

I just use old tires on the SNAP - definitely don't want to use anything with tread on it!
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Old 02-12-18, 10:28 AM
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Like previous poster, I have an old bike I use on the trainer (or rollers). Removing wheels is a hassle (either for the direct drive, or to swap in a trainer wheel), and I'd rather put the wear and tear on a beater bike than my nice ones.

I bought a SNAP ~18mo ago and have hundreds of hours on it with no problems. When I bought it the KICKR was still measuring power with the torque sensors rather than wheel speed, and I could see the extra expense being justified then, but no way anymore. The KICKR and SNAP measure power the same way now.

I have a Powertap wheel on my trainer bike, and it measures at least within 5% of the SNAP over the course of a workout (average power). The SNAP's reported power doesn't respond as quickly as the Powertap, but that is the same for any speed based power calculation. Over the workout the numbers average out though.

What makes electronically controlled trainers appealing is their integration with Zwift, et al. Increase the resistance on the hills, decrease it on the descents. You don't need 2% power accuracy for that. If you really need that degree of accuracy, you should use whatever powermeter you are using on the road so at least you get consistency.

Buy the SNAP and save the money.
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Originally Posted by oldroadie48 View Post
Thanks for the replies. My LBS had a 20% off sale on all trainers and I had a store credit I forgot about. Picked up a Kickr for 900. Now I need someone younger than me to set it up for me. Lol.
Great deal and the right choice if you plan on doing any significant time on it. I have a KICKR that I bought in Oct and I've put >1,500 virtual miles on it on Zwift. It's fantastic.

If you've got any setup questions I'd be happy to answer them.
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Old 02-18-18, 09:10 PM
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Wobble issue

Ok... so I have the Kickr now and have had a couple sessions on it. My bike is very securely tightened on the cassette. I have the Kickr on the Kickr mat which is on carpet. Under moderate to hard effort I get a little wobble of the bike side to side (and I assume the Kickr as well). The adjustable legs are both the same height. I am thinking maybe there is too much cushioning under it which is causing the slight wobble. Anyone having the same issue or any input?
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Old 02-20-18, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by oldroadie48 View Post
Under moderate to hard effort I get a little wobble of the bike side to side (and I assume the Kickr as well). The adjustable legs are both the same height. I am thinking maybe there is too much cushioning under it which is causing the slight wobble. Anyone having the same issue or any input?
I have my Snap on a Wahoo mat sitting on a concrete floor. With a hard, out of saddle, effort I can rock the bike side to side.
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