Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Training & Nutrition
Reload this Page >

Free app to test FTP on a trainer?

Notices
Training & Nutrition Learn how to develop a training schedule that's good for you. What should you eat and drink on your ride? Learn everything you need to know about training and nutrition here.

Free app to test FTP on a trainer?

Old 06-12-18, 06:25 PM
  #1  
Ericoschmitt
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Florianópolis, Brazil
Posts: 142
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 54 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Free app to test FTP on a trainer?

I know it seems weird, to have a smart trainer and be looking for a free app.
The thing is that I don't own one, it's the LBS that has one for fit purposes and lets clients use it. It's an Elite Drive trainer, but the shop only has the software that comes with it (or at least i think it's the one), says something like "Real Trainer" or whatever.
The problem with it is that I couldn't set up an FTP test on that software and I'm not willing to pay for a software I'll only use occasionally. I can select between "time/power, time/gradient, distance/gradient, distance/power" but can't mix those in a single ride. I also can't select a smaller part of it to evaluate average power, so I can't warm up for 15mins make a 20min test and then cool down, not without stopping the ride and changing program! Quite stupid. Also it's smart to cut out the first and last few seconds of the effort to avoid peaks I guess.

So is there any free software that I can set up something like
Warmup (15min): 5min very easy, 3 30sec medium efforts with 1min in between, another 5 very easy then
20min test (0% gradient, no preset watts)
Cooldown: 15min 0%gradient as slow as I feel like

And then select the 20mins portion to get the avg watts and normalized powerof that only??

Thanks!
Ericoschmitt is offline  
Old 06-12-18, 07:20 PM
  #2  
colombo357
Senior Member
 
colombo357's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Murica
Posts: 2,274
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 117 Post(s)
Liked 20 Times in 9 Posts
You're wasting your time.

Why assess your FTP on a device that you can't use for training? Different devices spit out different numbers.
colombo357 is offline  
Old 06-12-18, 08:09 PM
  #3  
Ericoschmitt
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Florianópolis, Brazil
Posts: 142
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 54 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Originally Posted by colombo357 View Post
You're wasting your time.

Why assess your FTP on a device that you can't use for training? Different devices spit out different numbers.
I actually can use it whenever I want, I just have to go there and train really... But I want to know my FTP now and compare in the future. I'm likely to do most training on PRE. And I can compare it again on the same trainer...

Well, partially answering my own question I've found out about GoldenCheetah opensource software. Still I couldn't configure session mixing fixed power/time for warmup and gradient/time for ftp test. Appreciate help!
Ericoschmitt is offline  
Old 06-12-18, 08:37 PM
  #4  
jsk
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Houston
Posts: 606

Bikes: Trek Madone, Blue Triad SL, Dixie Flyer BTB

Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 160 Post(s)
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Ericoschmitt View Post
Well, partially answering my own question I've found out about GoldenCheetah opensource software. Still I couldn't configure session mixing fixed power/time for warmup and gradient/time for ftp test. Appreciate help!
So just use gradient/time for the warmup also. You should be able to warmup at 0% gradient, then set what you need for the test.

You could also try a 30-day trial to something like Trainer Road. Just make sure you cancel it before they start charging. I believe their new ramp test works in erg mode, but if you prefer slope/resistance mode that's what their 20-minute FTP test uses.
jsk is offline  
Old 06-16-18, 02:20 AM
  #5  
mcr23
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: UK
Posts: 18
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Maximum trainer is free and has an ftp test, or you can use the workout editor to create your own test.

There's also golden cheetah, although I've struggled to get this to work as intended.

Other options you have are signing up for trainer road, you get a thirty day money back guarantee if you cancel within 30 days.

Zwift has a 7 day free trial and includes an ftp test in the workout part.

Onelap is totally free and the Chinese version of zwift, it has an option to test you ftp in the workout section. The English translation isn't the best, but the app itself is great considering its free.

There's also the tacx desktop app, although I think the workouts and ftp test are mobile only - so you'd need a tablet or a smartphone to do an ftp test. It's also free.

There may be a few more, but this list should get you started.

​​​​​
​​​
​​
mcr23 is offline  
Old 06-17-18, 08:14 PM
  #6  
Ericoschmitt
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Florianópolis, Brazil
Posts: 142
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 54 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Thank you mcr23 !
Wednesday I did the test using GoldenCheetah. I couldn't find how to set up things as I wished, but I just looked at time and rode at the needed power. It's easy enough to select the hard effort to analyze, which I couldn't do in that Elite Drivo software! And It's easy to set up workouts with lots of detail, loved it!
I'll take a look at those other softwares this week, see if any of them comes with a nice test protocol, and if I can export data to GoldenCheetah later.
Ericoschmitt is offline  
Old 06-18-18, 04:58 AM
  #7  
daviddavieboy 
Senior Member
 
daviddavieboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Great White North
Posts: 778

Bikes: Yeah, I have some.

Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 270 Post(s)
Liked 81 Times in 42 Posts
Connect it to Zwift for free. They have an FTP test.
daviddavieboy is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Fred_
Road Cycling
5
08-03-17 06:44 AM
michael_runs
Road Cycling
10
10-21-16 05:00 PM
ancker
Road Cycling
5
10-04-11 08:32 AM
18hockey
"The 33"-Road Bike Racing
5
04-06-11 09:35 PM
FlashBazbo
Road Cycling
36
06-07-10 12:49 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright © 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.