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How flexible are you?
Lay down on the ground on your back and try to make a 90 degree angle by lifting your legs (one by one of course).
I fail this test as I can make only a 60 degree angle with my left leg while I can lift my right leg almost straight. Is it due to tight hamstrings do you think? Or some gluteal muscles? How do you think I can correct this and make both legs equally flexible? P.s. I don't ride for about five years due to some patellafemoral syndrome. I wonder if it has to do anything with this and maybe I can ride again if I can correct this. |
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1128693c8d.png I said try to make a 90 degree angle as I thought it would be the maximum but it looks like more is achievable. |
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Not a professional dancer, so I don't know or care whether I'm more or less flexible than the norm.
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You improve your flexibility by working at it consistently.
Like most anything. So just go stretch more. |
I wonder how much of an affect it may cause on knee functions. You know all those muscles and tendons are connected and if you have a tightness in somewhere it causes an imbalance on kneecap trajectory. |
Originally Posted by hillcrawler
(Post 20584322)
I wonder how much of an affect it may cause on knee functions. You know all those muscles and tendons are connected and if you have a tightness in somewhere it causes an imbalance on kneecap trajectory. |
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In order not to risk health, consult a doctor, sign up for exercise therapy, because self-treatment sometimes gives the opposite effect
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saw some young ladies doing this against the Washington Monument last Fall. looked like a fun photo, but I remember it being really difficult to scootch in as close as them https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...0933781c4c.jpg
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Originally Posted by tyrion
(Post 20585082)
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Do some forward folds as in yoga and hang in the pose for 5 to 10 minutes several times a day. Relax in the folds and let the hamstrings slowly stretch. It takes time to increase flexibility. Don't force the muscles and tendons to lengthen. Don't spring or bounce when you are stretching.
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A friend who is a physical therapist told me 90% of flexibility is genetic, assuming you are at all active and bike/run/hike/walk an "average" amount. The last 10% can be pretty important, though - especially if you mostly do one activity repetitively, like biking.
Her biking-specific advice to me (I can't touch my toes, or get to 90 in your test) for biking was to focus on flexibility of hip flexor muscles and strength of hamstrings and soleus muscles. She had good reasoning for those points, seems to be backed up by the usually cycling sources. When I bought a new bike back in early 2017, it came with a Retul professional bike fitting - he validated the hip flexor point, too. I'm not a racer, more of a long distance fun rider who likes to try to go faster - don't need flexibility to slam my stem, etc. But, about 18 months of adding stretches and weight lifting for those areas to my workout routine and on 60+ mile rides, the next day I feel better at age 61 than I did at age 59.5! Could be placebo/psychological - but I'll take it either way. |
Originally Posted by jpescatore
(Post 20594131)
Her biking-specific advice to me (I can't touch my toes, or get to 90 in your test) for biking was to focus on flexibility of hip flexor muscles and strength of hamstrings and soleus muscles. She had good reasoning for those points, seems to be backed up by the usually cycling sources. When I bought a new bike back in early 2017, it came with a Retul professional bike fitting - he validated the hip flexor point, too.
I am pretty flexible in general, but my hip flexors are the primary area, lower body wise, that needs work in that respect. |
This hip flexor stuff is an odd business. So when you stand up straight, your thigh/torso angle is 180°. When I'm on the bike, my thigh/torso angle seldom exceeds 90°. What on earth would be the point of stretching the hip flexors beyond 180°? It makes little sense to stretch joints beyond the range of motion to be used in the targeted activity. I know that bro science and all the spin classes, etc. advocate that stretching, but I see no sense in it and I do don't do it. OTOH, strengthening the hip flexors is sadly neglected in cycling training. I work my hip flexors good in the gym and that definitely helps. On the 3rd hand, the only nasty injury I ever had in my athletic life was overworking or overstressing a hip flexor tendon when I raced Nordic in college, so both stretching and strengthening are indicated for that sport. Took me a couple years to heal that up and I still have to be careful of it. For cycling, sets of 30 bent-legged leg raises on the Roman Chair, or do fewer reps holding dumbbells between your feet, better yet.
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Originally Posted by hillcrawler
(Post 20580800)
Lay down on the ground on your back and try to make a 90 degree angle by lifting your legs (one by one of course).
I fail this test as I can make only a 60 degree angle with my left leg while I can lift my right leg almost straight. Is it due to tight hamstrings do you think? Or some gluteal muscles? How do you think I can correct this and make both legs equally flexible? P.s. I don't ride for about five years due to some patellafemoral syndrome. I wonder if it has to do anything with this and maybe I can ride again if I can correct this. |
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I do just fine.
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Maintaining strength and flexibility is more important than improving performance. In my view maintaining mobility well beyond our youngish years should be part of the mix as well. Steady, often vigorous exercise coupled with stretching to maintain range of motion go together. If we go to any public place, such as a shopping mall, notice people in their older years and how they move. The ones I see move poorly, older than actual years. Many did not use it and lost it.
I have a number of physical issues that have caused considerable trouble over the years. I've managed to almost illiminate most of them through exercise and stretching. For my troublesome knee, when it begins to act up, stepped up knee exercises fixes it. Same with a troublesome back. I'm very careful about good posture when lifting supplemented with core exercises. The pelvis girdle is the largest bone in the body and muscle in the body, directly or indirectly is connected to it. So if one area of the body is showing signs of strain, it is likely related to core stability. Some years ago, when I played tennis regularly, I began having steady shoulder pain, not serious enough to stop playing but it had been plaguing me for months. While seeing a chiropractor (who was also a body builder) for my troublesome back, I mentioned my tennis shoulder. He gave me several exercises to do at home and the pain stopped almost immediately, within a day or two. I tucked the fact away, that exercise can alleviate or cure over use injuries. So today when something acts up to cause discomfort, I don't rest it, I step up exercises. My routine may not work for everyone but it costs me nothing and I like feeling strong and agile, well for an 80 y.o. man. |
Originally Posted by berner
(Post 20636258)
Maintaining strength and flexibility is more important than improving performance. In my view maintaining mobility well beyond our youngish years should be part of the mix as well. Steady, often vigorous exercise coupled with stretching to maintain range of motion go together. If we go to any public place, such as a shopping mall, notice people in their older years and how they move. The ones I see move poorly, older than actual years. Many did not use it and lost it.
I have a number of physical issues that have caused considerable trouble over the years. I've managed to almost illiminate most of them through exercise and stretching. For my troublesome knee, when it begins to act up, stepped up knee exercises fixes it. Same with a troublesome back. I'm very careful about good posture when lifting supplemented with core exercises. The pelvis girdle is the largest bone in the body and muscle in the body, directly or indirectly is connected to it. So if one area of the body is showing signs of strain, it is likely related to core stability. Some years ago, when I played tennis regularly, I began having steady shoulder pain, not serious enough to stop playing but it had been plaguing me for months. While seeing a chiropractor (who was also a body builder) for my troublesome back, I mentioned my tennis shoulder. He gave me several exercises to do at home and the pain stopped almost immediately, within a day or two. I tucked the fact away, that exercise can alleviate or cure over use injuries. So today when something acts up to cause discomfort, I don't rest it, I step up exercises. My routine may not work for everyone but it costs me nothing and I like feeling strong and agile, well for an 80 y.o. man. |
Originally Posted by berner
(Post 20636258)
Maintaining strength and flexibility is more important than improving performance. In my view maintaining mobility well beyond our youngish years should be part of the mix as well. Steady, often vigorous exercise coupled with stretching to maintain range of motion go together. If we go to any public place, such as a shopping mall, notice people in their older years and how they move.
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I'm in the same boat. As much as I stretch, I see minimal results. I'm starting to believe my inflexibility is due to weak hip flexors
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I'm not very flexible. That point has been driven home by doing parent and tot gymnastics this year. I probably should work at it more than I do (which is pretty much never).
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Originally Posted by billyjoe44
(Post 20685522)
I'm in the same boat. As much as I stretch, I see minimal results. I'm starting to believe my inflexibility is due to weak hip flexors
Here are a few links that might help: Flex Those Flexors: 3 Steps To Powerful Hips @ BodyBuilding. 3 Workouts To Increase Your Hip Mobility @ BodyBuilding. Kneeling Hip Flexor Stretch @ Muscle & Fitness. Hip Flexor search results @ Muscle & Fitness. Hip Flexor Stretches @ Sensational Yoga Poses. |
Originally Posted by hillcrawler
(Post 20580800)
Lay down on the ground on your back and try to make a 90 degree angle by lifting your legs (one by one of course).
I fail this test as I can make only a 60 degree angle with my left leg while I can lift my right leg almost straight. Is it due to tight hamstrings do you think? Or some gluteal muscles? How do you think I can correct this and make both legs equally flexible? P.s. I don't ride for about five years due to some patellafemoral syndrome. I wonder if it has to do anything with this and maybe I can ride again if I can correct this. |
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