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Old 04-14-21, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by alo View Post
At the beginning of last year I was 130kg or 287 lb. Last year I lost 15 kg or 33 lb. Now I have lost a total of 21 kg or 46 lb, and weigh 109 kg or 240 lb.

At the beginning of last year, I might cycle 10 km in a day, and that was challenging. I would walk with the bike up some hills. As I lost weight, I cycled further. I got to the point where I can cycle 60 to 80 km in a day. I now cycle up hills I used to walk up, sometimes in a high gear.

I would like to encourage other fat challenged people to also lose weight. Here is my approach. Others might take a different approach. I am not suggesting anyone has to do exactly what I do.

The key is to be consistent. If you diet for a while, then quit, don't expect to lose weight and keep it off. You need a good diet on a permanent basis.

I avoid fats. You can't lose fat while consuming significant amounts of fat. I avoid, meat, dairy, fried foods and bread. I avoid manufactured and processed foods. I eat fruits, vegetables, grains and nuts.

I suggest, anyone starting this, don't eat anything after lunch. Do this for at least a few months until you get used to it.

Then only eat breakfast. Do this for months until you get used to it.

Then if you really want rapid weight loss, only eat breakfast every second day.

I suggest not eating less than that without medical supervision. If you get too extreme, things could go wrong.

When consuming low calories, like this, I sometimes only have enough energy to cycle 20 km in a day. After I have lost more weight, I can increase my calories and cycle further in a day.

I drink a lot of liquids while cycling. Some water, and some healthier type drinks with calories.

I believe I am adding years to my life, and reducing my chance of diabetes and high blood pressure. I would like to encourage others to do the same.
Losing weight is a great idea for many people. So... good for you for that!
But, if you only lost 33 lbs in a year doing a diet as extreme as this, you're doing something wrong. One meal a day of food that generally isn't very calorie dense is a very extreme diet.

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Old 04-14-21, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by OBoile View Post
Losing weight is a great idea for many people. So... good for you for that!
But, if you only lost 33 lbs in a year doing a diet as extreme as this, you're doing something wrong. One meal a day of food that generally isn't very calorie dense is a vary extreme diet.

Yet another reason I don't give advice--it turns every discussion into a competition or an invitation for people to judge. 33 pounds in a year is pretty great if you ask me. I'd last about two weeks on that diet myself, though.

I find it is funny to listen to people explain to me how I lost 150 pounds wrong and how I should do whatever it is they're doing. I will explain to them what I'm doing, and it's as crazy in its own way as what OP is doing. Works for me is all I care about.
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I'll be one to post that I do in fact touch fast food.
I dont have it nearly as often as many, but I clearly have it more frequently than some in this thread.

Im busy + it's convenient = I get it from time to time.
Same for gas station food, though the 3 main chains around me all have kitchens and prepare in the store so it's not like a day old hot dog.


If my daily caloric allowance is 2300 and I consume 1000 calories at a fast food spot, then assuming I do not movement that day I have 1300 left for breakfast, dinner, and snacks.

To a very large degree, weight loss and management is all just calories in vs calories out.
Obviously there is more to proper nutrition than just calories(lime vitamins, minerals, etc) and overall you want to make sure those are balanced.
Eating chik fil a now and then won't unbalance you.
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Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
Yet another reason I don't give advice--it turns every discussion into a competition or an invitation for people to judge. 33 pounds in a year is pretty great if you ask me. I'd last about two weeks on that diet myself, though.

I find it is funny to listen to people explain to me how I lost 150 pounds wrong and how I should do whatever it is they're doing. I will explain to them what I'm doing, and it's as crazy in its own way as what OP is doing. Works for me is all I care about.
Don't get me wrong. 33 lbs in a year is great. But not if you're eating one meal every other day to do it. That's like going to "Biggest Loser" extremes but without the extreme weight loss.
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr View Post
I'll be one to post that I do in fact touch fast food.
I dont have it nearly as often as many, but I clearly have it more frequently than some in this thread.

Im busy + it's convenient = I get it from time to time.
Same for gas station food, though the 3 main chains around me all have kitchens and prepare in the store so it's not like a day old hot dog.


If my daily caloric allowance is 2300 and I consume 1000 calories at a fast food spot, then assuming I do not movement that day I have 1300 left for breakfast, dinner, and snacks.

To a very large degree, weight loss and management is all just calories in vs calories out.
Obviously there is more to proper nutrition than just calories(lime vitamins, minerals, etc) and overall you want to make sure those are balanced.
Eating chik fil a now and then won't unbalance you.
I also consume fast food, likely once every couple of weeks or so. And potato chips (my after dinner snack). And I usually have 5-6 drinks a week.

Most things aren't as bad as people think. It's when its taken to an extreme that you have problems. A friend of mine who used to be obese used to have a large pizza every night. He didn't even have to order it. The store would have it ready for him every night. There's a world of difference between that an McDonald's once or twice a month.

My diet is not optimal, but it's good enough for me. I'm happy with the balance I have.
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So far, researchers have identified over 50 genes which are associated with obesity, and they are learning more all the time about other physiological factors. .
Right, CI/CO is easy for the people it's easy for.

When you consider the wide variation there's been between societies as to how much and what type of foods were available, is there any doubt that we'd have genes that were programming very different strategies of storing/using fat and expending energy? Someone whose ancestors had to survive in a northern Scandinavian climate is not likely to have the same metabolism as someone whose ancestors were from Italy. And let's not even get started on epigenetics. What your grandmother ate when she was pregnant with your mother may have a direct effect on your percentage of body fat.
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Originally Posted by OBoile View Post
Don't get me wrong. 33 lbs in a year is great. But not if you're eating one meal every other day to do it. That's like going to "Biggest Loser" extremes but without the extreme weight loss.

I wouldn't do it, but I'm not going to judge whether the steady slow weight loss that OP is describing isn't optimum for them.

I'm still not quite clear how long they've been on one meal every other day plan, btw. I don't think it's even clear whether this person is actually doing that--there's an "if you want" clause to that plan that makes me think this is just advice from someone who isn't actually doing it.

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Old 04-14-21, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr View Post

Same for gas station food, though the 3 main chains around me all have kitchens and prepare in the store so it's not like a day old hot dog.
The first time I can recall seeing that was during a non-cooking tour in SD. Think it was a Sinclair station. The two “regular” restaurants in town were not open for dinner on Sundays, so I ordered dinner at the gas station. Got mine to go, but the place had some tables inside. Everything was made to order. Actually wasn’t half bad. Even got a decent salad. Guess being on a U.S. Highway with no interstate or much of anything else around is the reason for the gas station restaurant.
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A recent thought I had to simplify the 'you do best for you' and 'sustainable' was to ask yourself the question: "can I do what I'm doing during this diet every day for the rest of my life". Not like, ride 100 miles today but zero tomorrow............like mentally average it out. If you give up 100% desert, beer, wine, everything of indulgence........if you exercise 6 days a week for an hour or more.................can you? Every day the rest of your life?

Like that, for drinking, the yearly Dryuary stuff didn't work out. It was just a binge at the holiday time, abstinence following, then another binge. So instead I decided to try having two days per week I could drink some wine. Works well. It's a short enough time period going without I don't mind at all. Sometimes I even skip my two days, or skip one of the days and go "no thanks".

Just as an example.

I just think most diet stuff needs fast results to make a sale. Nobody wants to hear "you're going to lose a 1/2 pound a week for 4 years" versus "you're DONE in 3 months".

Just a recent thought.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
The first time I can recall seeing that was during a non-cooking tour in SD. Think it was a Sinclair station. The two “regular” restaurants in town were not open for dinner on Sundays, so I ordered dinner at the gas station. Got mine to go, but the place had some tables inside. Everything was made to order. Actually wasn’t half bad. Even got a decent salad. Guess being on a U.S. Highway with no interstate or much of anything else around is the reason for the gas station restaurant.
Yeah, one of the large gas stations around here is Casey's General Store and they are actually the 5th largest Pizza chain in the US too. Petrol Pizza! Casey's added a fresh salad or sandwich area and its identical to Subway's process. Same deal with Kum&Go with is also huge around here.
Its a big difference from gas stations in the Chicagoland area where I grew up which had a bagged burrito you could warm up or a hot dog that had been on the rollers for so long it looked like beef jerky.
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Its a big difference from gas stations in the Chicagoland area where I grew up which had a bagged burrito you could warm up or a hot dog that had been on the rollers for so long it looked like beef jerky.
In college I worked at a movie theater. At the end of the night, if the hot dogs still looked semi-passable, they were put in the freezer and put back on the rollers the next day.
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Don't get me wrong. 33 lbs in a year is great. But not if you're eating one meal every other day to do it. That's like going to "Biggest Loser" extremes but without the extreme weight loss.

I lost 50 pounds in 6 months eating a balanced diet, no fads, no short cuts, and riding my bike 400 miles per month.
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I lost 50 pounds in 6 months eating a balanced diet, no fads, no short cuts, and riding my bike 400 miles per month.
Also great, and likely far more healthy than the extreme diet proposed in the OP.
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When Covid hit last year I started biking to work 3-4 times a week(20 mi round trip). I also dry fast 20 hrs/day when I do this. 4000 mi for me this year. My weight went from 129'ish-->130'ish. I think I gained leg muscle. They look bigger to me. Good fortune to all who are trying to trend to their optimal weight. If you want to delve into the controversy about biking fasted, no need to look any farther than:
3 hr ride without drinking nor eating safe?
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if i want to determine if my diet is healthy, I'll look at my poop. crappy to analyze the stool, but if you're "out put" isn't normal, your doctor will have some crap to tell ya.
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Hate to follow that last post with a moderator's note, but I deleted a couple of posts that were about the OP and other bikeforums members. Generally speaking, this is not allowed, particularly if you are insulting them.

The amateur moderators on this site cause more problems than anyone. Just scroll on by.
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Moved to Training and Nutrition.
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Originally Posted by UCantTouchThis View Post
I lost 50 pounds in 6 months eating a balanced diet, no fads, no short cuts, and riding my bike 400 miles per month.

I'm no math genius, but that's a steady 2 pounds a week, I'd say that's working well!
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The amateur moderators on this site cause more problems than anyone. Just scroll on by.

Did you all go pro?
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K.I.S.S. sorta haiku....
Eat FOOD
Not too much
Mostly plants
Of course, how one defines FOOD is key. For me food = minimally processed things that grows from, walks on or swims around our planet.
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I lost 50 pounds in 6 months eating a balanced diet, no fads, no short cuts, and riding my bike 400 miles per month.
I have too. That's my plan. And in the process I'm getting a shiny new toy. Seems like a win.
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Yup. Starvation should only be attempted under close medical supervision or for political purposes.
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What is "fat challenged"? Fat but like "vertically challenged"?
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