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Haven't read all the post so this might be a duplication. Most recreational cyclists I know were runners first. After their inevitable leg injuries they turned to cycling.
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Originally Posted by bruce19
(Post 23521301)
Haven't read all the post so this might be a duplication. Most recreational cyclists I know were runners first. After their inevitable leg injuries they turned to cycling.
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Originally Posted by Iride01
(Post 23521477)
Were those cyclists also people you knew when you were a runner?
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Originally Posted by Trakhak
(Post 23515150)
There can also be the problem of continuing to run the same mileage after marrying and establishing a career and putting on weight, as so many do. Cyclists can get away with putting on weight. So can runners, but only to a point.
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Originally Posted by mschwett
(Post 23515677)
a personal anecdote - quite a while after diagnosis with heart condition, i found cycling was something i could enjoyably do. as i got more and more into it, even without any all out efforts, ever, i got to a pretty solid level for long distance rides. i could hold 200+ true average watts uninterrupted for hours and hours at 110 BPM. i did unsupported centuries with a few bars in my pocket, pretty solid 3,500 climbs, etc.
at the same time, walking up stairs or a hill causes immediate shortness of breath, and running is out of the question. my legs are strong, i’m not overweight at all, but my heart doesn’t work correctly but can manage cycling. the bicycle is an amazing device! |
Originally Posted by PromptCritical
(Post 23521963)
You can do 200 watts for hours @ 110 BPM? After a heart condition? I’m seriously impressed (not being sarcastic). My ftp is around 220 and after 8 minutes of that my HR is at least 165. Hmmm. Need to talk to an exercise physiologist……
things have gone somewhat downhill recently and I’ve noticed it takes about 10% more HR for the same power. and running is just totally out of the question, even if I was being chased 😂 |
So, there is a lot of wisdom in these comments. At one point in my life, I was a fairly elite runner: Sub 16:30 5k, and running was not my primary athletic pursuit. But! But...I am a cyclist and a soccer player, and those activities give me actual joy. I love playing box-to-box midfield because it makes something in my mind and my soul content. I love cycling fast because it brings me joy and peace and mindfulness.
I don't mean to sound overly hippy-dippy, but what you emotionally connect with is what you are motivated to push hard. If you don't find running enjoyable, then it doesn't matter how good your cardo fitness or leg strength is: You won't push yourself because you just don't care enough... |
Rule #42. But seriously, I believe people migrate to activities they enjoy more or can do. I don't think it's fun to run 5+ hours but most centuries I did on the bike were. Even the 30 minute spins was more enjoyable than the group runs that I had to do in the Army.
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I seldom run, but when I do, I run just fine. That said, many years ago I ran a lot. Not long distance, just a couple miles, but I ran daily. I think a lot of it is just knowing how. I also hike and backpack - I'm used to foot/earth contact. Everything athletic takes practice.
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I hurt my hip stepping in a small hole running the trails at daybreak, so I went from running, to elliptical, to cycling for my cardio. I lift weights the other days.
If I was stuck with only one exercise it would be elliptical. I can set the resistance high and work my calves, upper body, core, and legs then alternate with lower resistance higher speeds and elevated heart rate. Coming off the elliptical the movement gets me in the best cross-fit shape for running on a treadmill or cycling, while keeping some muscle on my upper body and arms. I enjoy outdoor cycling the most. I like the results of weight lifting the most. I was always hoped my runs would end soon when I was running.. |
Originally Posted by terrymorse
(Post 23514036)
Nonsense. These adaptations definitely cross over:
When I was at my peak with cycling, I struggled to climb stairs. I had decent leg strength and cardiovascular fitness, but not enough to get up 10 flights of stairs without an effort. It's one of the reasons I added stair climbing into my training collection. |
Originally Posted by PromptCritical
(Post 23521963)
You can do 200 watts for hours @ 110 BPM? After a heart condition? I’m seriously impressed (not being sarcastic). My ftp is around 220 and after 8 minutes of that my HR is at least 165. Hmmm. Need to talk to an exercise physiologist……
HR is a crazy thing. One guy I ride with tops out at 120+/-BPM. He's not really fast - when we are riding along at 16-17, his HR is 105 - take it to 18 and he is toast. He gets to 115 and blows up. We've asked him if is HR monitor is borked - its not, he has tried different ones. We've asked him if he's seen a doctor - doc says he is just fine. Another guy I've met and follow on Strava is a ultra distance senior racer - he does 12 hour time trials at age 68... he always posts his data on Strava. Resting HR of 39, 2.5 hours at 20mph at a HR of 106. Never seen him post a HR of over 110. Personally - at 54 years old, I've watched videos of pro's putting out similar power numbers as I do at 130bpm. I wonder how we can have the same efficiency at that level when they are so fit... but threshold for me is 145 bpm - 152 is VO2 level, and they are just warming up at that level. |
As others point out, cross training is the key. Cyclists aren’t necessarily bad runners. Running is just another discipline that requires its own training and fitness. I run and bike and weight train. In the winter I cross country ski and damned if I don’t discover muscles that get sore doing that ‘cause they’re working in ways different from the other activities. Every activity has different requirements.
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OTOH, why do runners make such good cyclists? I've seen runners who seldom ride come out with the group and do just fine in the mountains.
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