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Old 02-16-07, 03:16 PM
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quad espresso baby let the anti oxidents roll and damn the caffine.

hmm folks dont like to talk to unless i have had coffee; somthing to do with to many channels in my brain. the caffine slows me down to people speed
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Old 02-17-07, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Gotte
Thanks for the info, and yes, I'd be interested in more.

I know what you mean about "why bother", but I simply can;t drink caffinated coffee anymore. I have a cortisol thing going on at the moment that means I just get too wired.
But I used to love expresso. I used to love all coffee (well, anything balck, strong and sweet), but times change and you get older and some things you have to stop.

Maybe I should simply not drink decaf and have a blissful memory of caffinated coffee. I must admit, I drink more tea now (again, decaf). Maybe it should be like cigarettes (which I used also to enjoy) - total ban is the only way.

And you know, a good strong cup of coffee and a cigarette (Marlboro Red, was always my preference), at a pavement cafe in a European city...Ahhhh, sometimes the memory is good enough. I find myself closing my eyes and trying to remember the feel of the sunlight dappled by the trees on the Unter Den Linden.

But I digress. Where was I? Oh yes, my life as is.

Hmmmmm.
im not if this means i insulted you or not but if i did sorry. i know what living without pleasures is like i was diagnosed with epilepsy 2 years ago and had to completely stop drinking booze which made me hate myself and the problem i had.

now i dont. instead i gets ****ed up on caffine!
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Old 02-18-07, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by garysol1
Discuss.......
One good reason not to drink coffee...When I drink it in the morning, it keeps me awake all day!!!
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Old 02-19-07, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Curt Kurt
^don't hate on meth
Exactly! Just because it is an awful substance,
doesn't mean we should overlook it's role in appetite
suppression...
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Old 02-20-07, 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by feethanddooth
im not if this means i insulted you or not but if i did sorry. i know what living without pleasures is like i was diagnosed with epilepsy 2 years ago and had to completely stop drinking booze which made me hate myself and the problem i had.

now i dont. instead i gets ****ed up on caffine!
No insult. Not at all.
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Old 02-20-07, 02:39 PM
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I had to stop drinking coffee pretty much altogether. After I first started riding a lot my metabolism seemed to speed up and I started loosing weight. Eight months ago I weighed 220 and am now down to 185 or so. After my metabolism increased and I became hungry all the time even a half cup of coffee would affect me as if I'd drank the whole pot. It was not a good feeling. If I drank one cup of coffee with a large breakfast I'd end up hungry and suffering from low blood sugar within an hour of eating.

Seems it affects everyone quite a bit differently. For me there is no way I could drink any amount of coffee and then get on a bike.
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Old 02-21-07, 07:50 PM
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i've heard that since the caffiene from coffee is absorbed directly through the stomach lining into the bloodstream, it stains your stomach brown. the staining isn't harmful though.
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Old 02-24-07, 03:42 AM
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On another note coffee does have three significant benefits:

It wakes you up, AND
tends to cure the negative effects which may arise from good news AND
will delay sleep when this could be a positive thing.

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Old 02-24-07, 03:46 AM
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Admins, was this previous post by me "disruptive" or "off topic?"
If so, I apologize for any lack of your appraisal of my good intentions.

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Old 02-26-07, 01:45 PM
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I try to limit my coffee consumption to less than 3 cups a week. If I need a pick me up, I drink yerba mate instead. It's a natural stimulant without the side effects and toxicity of coffee remarkably, it induces better (not worse) attributes of sleep.
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Old 02-26-07, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by SwollenYak
I try to limit my coffee consumption to less than 3 cups a week.
I am down to 3 a day now
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Originally Posted by SwollenYak
It's a natural stimulant without the side effects and toxicity of coffee remarkably, it induces better (not worse) attributes of sleep.
Like coffee beans aren't "natural"?

Per Wikipedia:

Mate contains xanthines, which are alkaloids in the same family as caffeine, theophylline, and theobromine, well-known stimulants also found in coffee and chocolate. Mate also contains elements such as potassium, magnesium and manganese [2]. Caffeine content varies between 0.3% and 1.7% of dry weight (compare this to 2.54.5% for tea leaves, and 1.5% for ground coffee).

Mate products are sometimes marketed as "caffeine-free" alternatives to coffee and tea, and said to have fewer negative effects. This is often based on a claim that the primary active xanthine in mate is "mateine", erroneously said to be a stereoisomer of caffeine (as it is not chemically possible for caffeine to have a stereoisomer). "Mateine" is an official synonym of caffeine in the chemical databases.

Researchers at Florida International University in Miami have found that yerba mate does contain caffeine, but some people seem to tolerate a mate drink better than coffee or tea. This is expected since mate contains different chemicals (other than caffeine) from tea or coffee.
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Old 02-26-07, 07:17 PM
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Thursdays are an incredibly long day for me. I go to school at 6:30 in the morning, and I get home from school around 7:30 at night. Thursday nights, into Friday mornings I drive a pedicab in downtown Austin. At about 9:30, few shots of espresso mixed with some steamed soy milk and chocolate is exactly what I need to keep my performance high until long after the shift is over. It really helps me through a strenuous 25 hour day, but simply because caffeine is a drug strong enough for that kind of task, I try to limit use to Thursday nights only.
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Old 02-26-07, 07:33 PM
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I have premature ventricular contractions. Too much caffeine gives me palpitations. I no longer drink coffee after my 2 mugs in the morning. I buy a pound of regual beans and a pound of decaff beans, mix them up and grind them. Half the caffeine and all the flavor. I've been sleeping better since I reduced caffeine, even though I never knew it even affected my sleep.
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Old 02-26-07, 07:35 PM
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" Any reason NOT to drink coffee?"

No. Are you mad?
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Old 02-28-07, 11:56 AM
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Ken Cummings said "Item one; If I get more then 4 cups of coffee equivalent in my system at one time I start having little chest pains akin to low key Angina. " I think i've got the same problem? Would you mind describing the pain, is that a heart related pain or what?


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Old 03-01-07, 03:41 AM
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From: http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1470868

Q: Hey, you said at a seminar that decaf coffee is a bad idea. Why?

A: The chemicals used to get the caffeine out of coffee have been shown to be potent carcinogens (cancer causing). Now, there are some newer methods that supposedly remove the caffeine without chemicals (Swiss Water process), but in the end, drinking coffee without caffeine is like having a cheeseless cheese sandwich or a protein-free steak!

Also, most people who study carcinogens will tell you that the two most important things to buy organically are coffee and butter. These are the two most chemically laden foods you can buy if you don't choose organic. You can get organic coffee at Whole Foods. Some Starbucks locations also carry organic if you ask for it.

Interesting note, if you look at the research on coffee, you'll find that people who don't drink coffee die five years earlier than the people who do. One of the main reasons that has been advanced for this is that coffee is one of the only antioxidant-rich foods most people consume.

Also, it's the only bitter herb we consume. We know that bitter herbs are good for the health of the gallbladder. So, choose organic, fully caffeinated coffee.
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Do any of you notice higher heart rates while exercising after drinking a large amount of coffee, or a normal amount in close proximity to your ride? Im wondering if this is actually a factor, as I've heard that caffeine only affects resting HR and only minimally. But I also feel that when I do drink a lot before a ride, my heart feels more strained and it's rate raises much quicker than normal. It's especially hard during days when I am limited in my training to certain HR zones, and I notice my power is restricted because of it. But, damn coffee is good. I enjoy decaf in the evening for something warm to drink.
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Well....I drink coffee and I am thinking about quitting or at least drinking less. I have a defective heart valve from birth and my problem with coffee is if the caffeine can cause the abnormal HR isn't it possible it may be damaging my heart more? Or in the least, hurting the health/fitness I've worked so hard to achieve? Starting to think it just may be another bad habit, but with an almost hour long commute by car to work, the coffee gets me there on some days and keeps me alert to all the traffic changes.


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research suggests that coffee is not a diuretic and that it can be counted toward your daily beverage intake. personally, i don't agree.

don't forget that coffee has no nutritional value whatsoever and that caffeine is a drug.

however, if you really enjoy your coffee, than i see no problem with one small cup in the morning. i have read that coffee does help athletes get going.

lastly, don't forget to pay attention to portion sizes. a tall starbucks coffee does not equate with "1 cup of coffee".
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"work for starbucks and its very hard for me not to drink coffee. not only did i love it before i started working there but it is now part of my job to know the taste of the product. constant tastings during the day, quality assurance on espresso shots, and also the free pound of coffee every week makes me a 6 to 10 cup a day drinker. im very aware of it though and this month ive been making sure im not getting out of control. i try to stay around 4 cups a day now.

i have constant headahces if i do not fill up on some sort of caffine through out the day. but i dont think my riding is at all affected. dont give me my coffee though and thats a different story."

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You are very addicted to caffeine. You need to wean yourself off and drink lots of water while you do. When you say you have around 4 cups a day, remember that a starbucks cup of coffee is much larger than a true 8 ounce cup of coffee. Good luck.
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Apparently there is a normally sized cup at Starbucks. It is called the "short" cup. It is 8 oz. and is not shown on the cup display. When you ask for a "small" they give you a "tall" which is actually 12oz. Tricksters...
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Originally Posted by feethanddooth
i work for starbucks and its very hard for me not to drink coffee. not only did i love it before i started working there but it is now part of my job to know the taste of the product. constant tastings during the day, quality assurance on espresso shots, and also the free pound of coffee every week makes me a 6 to 10 cup a day drinker. im very aware of it though and this month ive been making sure im not getting out of control. i try to stay around 4 cups a day now.

i have constant headahces if i do not fill up on some sort of caffine through out the day. but i dont think my riding is at all affected. dont give me my coffee though and thats a different story.

I work for Sbux too...While I'm working its straight espressos..when I'm home its non-stop espresso roast as well. LOL. Too bad we can't get a case of Ethos for markout
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Switch to green tea. All the buzz without the anxiety.
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Just a little note about caffeine: Three 8oz. cups of regular strength coffe has about 250mg of caffeine, which is considered a "moderate" amount here:

http://www.sleepfoundation.org/site/...A04CC}&notoc=1

More than that alot of things can be affected, including quality of sleep, regardless of when you consume it.

As noted above, stronger coffee has alot more caffeine, and other foods, drugs, and supplements do as well.

See here for an interesting list: http://www.energyfiend.com/the-caffeine-database/
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