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Please critique my diet idea
Hey everyone! Long time onlooker, but never really involved (pretty much all my questions have been answered in the archives). I've been trying to put together a diet that will help me accomplish a few goals and would like to ask for your opinions on it. An IDEAL diet for me is one that fuels me adequately for training and improvement on the bike, promotes fat loss, and reduces muscle loss. I have about 20-25lbs. of body fat to lose before I'd consider myself in optimal cycling fitness. I can afford to lose a little upper body muscle mass, but want to minimize core and leg muscle loss. So here's my diet idea based on a typical day with a 1-2 hour training ride. Half that time spent around LT, the other half at tempo.
Meal 1: V8 - Low sodium
Slimfast Shake
Meal 2: 1 Pint Skim Milk
1.5 scoop whey protein powder
Meal 3: Chicken Breast
1/2 cup carrots
Meal 4: Yougurt
V8 - Low sodium
On bike: Water
At 1 hour on
bike or finish: Banana
Post Ride: 1 scoop Creatine
1 scoop vinillia whey protein
10oz. OJ or Apple Juice
1 cup frozen blueberries
Meal 5: Chicken Breast
3 cups romaine lettuce
Meal 6: 1 cup Skim Milk
1 scoop cassin protein powder
Good Night.....
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Nutrition Facts:
Calories: 2140
Fat: 31g
Sat: 11g
Poly: 4g
Mono: 8g
Carbs: 238g
Fiber 23g
Protein: 230g
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I have other diet plans based off of this for longer rides (up to 5hrs. for my centuries) and one plan for my weight training days. Biggest difference is more carbs for longer rides, fewer carbs for weight days. If you guys see any obvious problems or have any suggestions, PLEASE don't hesitate to comment.
Thanks in advance!
-Tony B
Meal 1: V8 - Low sodium
Slimfast Shake
Meal 2: 1 Pint Skim Milk
1.5 scoop whey protein powder
Meal 3: Chicken Breast
1/2 cup carrots
Meal 4: Yougurt
V8 - Low sodium
On bike: Water
At 1 hour on
bike or finish: Banana
Post Ride: 1 scoop Creatine
1 scoop vinillia whey protein
10oz. OJ or Apple Juice
1 cup frozen blueberries
Meal 5: Chicken Breast
3 cups romaine lettuce
Meal 6: 1 cup Skim Milk
1 scoop cassin protein powder
Good Night.....
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Nutrition Facts:
Calories: 2140
Fat: 31g
Sat: 11g
Poly: 4g
Mono: 8g
Carbs: 238g
Fiber 23g
Protein: 230g
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I have other diet plans based off of this for longer rides (up to 5hrs. for my centuries) and one plan for my weight training days. Biggest difference is more carbs for longer rides, fewer carbs for weight days. If you guys see any obvious problems or have any suggestions, PLEASE don't hesitate to comment.
Thanks in advance!
-Tony B
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all the protein powder supplementation...expensive.
Probably low on vitamins and minerals as well.
Probably low on vitamins and minerals as well.
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Less protein powder and more poultry/fish.
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Good idea on the fruits and veggies, good antioxidants and starchy carbs, yum yum. I forgot to mention that I take a men's multi vitamin in the morning along with 18 fish oils and 18 desiccated beef liver tabs throughout the day. So that's another 180 calories from fat (fish oil) and an extra 144 calories from protein (beef liver).
I also forgot to mention my vitals: 25yo, 177lbs., 5'9", 15%bf
Thanks again!
I also forgot to mention my vitals: 25yo, 177lbs., 5'9", 15%bf
Thanks again!
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Originally Posted by mateo44
More fruits and vegetables, methinks.....
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get rid of the slimfast and make it a regular casein containing shake. Slimfast is HORRIBLE. I would also suggest that you're not getting much healthy fat at all. Put a tablespoon of ground flaxseed in the am protein Add in a few tablespoons of quality fish oil. Throw a half of an avocado in another shake. Get rid of the apple juice and put those calories to good use with a meal with more real fruit and veggies.
And ignore those who say get rid of the protein powder. It's cheaper than whole food and gets you a lot of protein per meal, which is necessary. I would even go so far as to add in a half or full scoop into the yogurt in meal #4.
Once you balance in some healthy fats you should be rocking. You didn't mention how much you weight but even while dieting you're likely coming in too low calorie-wise and will need to adjust upwards. Adding in the healthy fat will take car of that and take care of your brain and joint function at the same time. Fat is also thermogenic and anabolic, so you got that going for you, which is nice.
And ignore those who say get rid of the protein powder. It's cheaper than whole food and gets you a lot of protein per meal, which is necessary. I would even go so far as to add in a half or full scoop into the yogurt in meal #4.
Once you balance in some healthy fats you should be rocking. You didn't mention how much you weight but even while dieting you're likely coming in too low calorie-wise and will need to adjust upwards. Adding in the healthy fat will take car of that and take care of your brain and joint function at the same time. Fat is also thermogenic and anabolic, so you got that going for you, which is nice.
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Slim fast is pure sugar plus fiber and a vitamin pill. You might as well down a few packets of sugar while filling up on Metamucil. Try eating really food. Vegetable soup can be very filling. Eat more chicken and fish.
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Originally Posted by aikigreg
Get rid of the apple juice and put those calories to good use with a meal with more real fruit and veggies.
I am getting quite a bit of good fats (in my opinion) from the butt-load of fish oil that I take. Is Flax really any better than fish oil? I also like to throw in some cod liver oil to my creatine shake.
My vitals are: 25yo, 177lbs., 5'9", 15%bf
Thanks for the good ideas everyone!
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OKAY!!! No slimfast. I also just learned that it contains trans fats! WTF!? A drink for dieters that contain trans fats... Odd world we live in.
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Originally Posted by ruechaos
What would be a better juice in your opinion? I like to use it in my post exercise creatine shake. How about V8 Fusion? Tastes pretty good and has a full serving of both fruits and veggies.
I am getting quite a bit of good fats (in my opinion) from the butt-load of fish oil that I take. Is Flax really any better than fish oil? I also like to throw in some cod liver oil to my creatine shake.
My vitals are: 25yo, 177lbs., 5'9", 15%bf
Thanks for the good ideas everyone!
I am getting quite a bit of good fats (in my opinion) from the butt-load of fish oil that I take. Is Flax really any better than fish oil? I also like to throw in some cod liver oil to my creatine shake.
My vitals are: 25yo, 177lbs., 5'9", 15%bf
Thanks for the good ideas everyone!
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Originally Posted by ruechaos
Nutrition Facts:
Calories: 2140
Fat: 31g
Sat: 11g
Poly: 4g
Mono: 8g
Carbs: 238g
Fiber 23g
Protein: 230g
Calories: 2140
Fat: 31g
Sat: 11g
Poly: 4g
Mono: 8g
Carbs: 238g
Fiber 23g
Protein: 230g
Fat: 6%
Carb: 48%
Protein: 46%
Generally speaking, you should be looking at more of a:
Fat=15%
Carb=60%
Protein=25%
You're looking at WAY too much protein, and not enough carbs for hard riding. You also need some healthy fats in there.
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Originally Posted by ruechaos
What would be a better juice in your opinion? I like to use it in my post exercise creatine shake. How about V8 Fusion? Tastes pretty good and has a full serving of both fruits and veggies.
I am getting quite a bit of good fats (in my opinion) from the butt-load of fish oil that I take. Is Flax really any better than fish oil? I also like to throw in some cod liver oil to my creatine shake.
My vitals are: 25yo, 177lbs., 5'9", 15%bf
Thanks for the good ideas everyone!
I am getting quite a bit of good fats (in my opinion) from the butt-load of fish oil that I take. Is Flax really any better than fish oil? I also like to throw in some cod liver oil to my creatine shake.
My vitals are: 25yo, 177lbs., 5'9", 15%bf
Thanks for the good ideas everyone!
Flax is not better than fish oil - it's simply a different source. And you didn't mention it in your list before, so be sure you count those as calories.
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Originally Posted by donrhummy
Why? Trust me on this: stick to foods that are the least processed and you'll lose fat (with exercise).
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Originally Posted by ruechaos
OKAY!!! No slimfast. I also just learned that it contains trans fats! WTF!? A drink for dieters that contain trans fats... Odd world we live in.
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Check the ingredients, the shake contains hydrogenated soybean oil.
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Didn't have to check your diet, the fact that you are asking about it is proof you have problems.
Normal people usually learn how to eat by the time they learn how to type.
Normal people usually learn how to eat by the time they learn how to type.
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Originally Posted by VanceMac
Disagree with aikigreg on the juice. You have those simple carbs exactly where you need them: post ride.
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The food pyramid is the worst invention EVAR. What kind of person trusts the government to dictate the proper way to eat?
Originally Posted by rodrigaj
Food pyramid
Small portions (i.e., moderation)
Excercise
Small portions (i.e., moderation)
Excercise
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Originally Posted by aikigreg
The food pyramid is the worst invention EVAR. What kind of person trusts the government to dictate the proper way to eat?
Just the food pyramid, moderation and exercise. I feel great, have lots of energy for kids (I teach Chemistry) and I coach Science Olympiad.