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Old 01-29-08, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by jbhowat View Post
Really? Thats an idiotic claim that you can't eat meat and care about the environment. Thats saying that unless someone is 100% green in everything they do in their lives (and I HIGHLY doubt you can say that as I presume you're posting from a computer which has all kinds of nasty materials in it and uses electricity which likely isn't from a renewable source and of course even if your house if you're using an internet system which is most definitely powered by non-renewable energy). So I guess you can't care about the environment either.

You realize populations have a natural cycle that includes overpopulation, right?



I'm still waiting for a scientific study showing health benefits of being vegetarian over non-vegetarians who eat a similiarly controlled and balanced diet that does not have a "no-meat" restriction. "non-smokers" doesn't do it, as I know a ton of 300lb lardasses who don't smoke.
Keep waiting. Or go somewhere else. In case you did'tn notice, the thread title said "Calling all vegetarians." Since that obviously doesn't include you, why are you bothering? Did someone make you feel small today, and you have to take it out here?
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Old 01-29-08, 10:48 PM
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Sounds tasty. I think I'll try this. Although I think I also add rice.
Originally Posted by cristina View Post
make sure you get enough protein and calcium. i get my proteins through beans and peanut butter, and i'm a lacto-ovo vegetarian so i still eat milk and cheese.

my fav recipe for black bean burritos that i make all the time:

1 green pepper, chopped into cubes
1/2 white or yellow onion, diced
salt
black pepper
garlic powder
1 can black beans, drained
1 tomato, diced
1/2 jalapeno, minced
ground cumin - KEY INGREDIENT!!!
tortillas
grated cheddar cheese
salsa

warm pan on stove @ medium heat. use a small amount of extra virgin olive oil, just enough to coat the pan. when pan is warm, throw in green peppers and onions. sprinkle w/ salt, black pepper, and garlic powder and stir. cook for a few minutes, but don't let green peppers get too soggy as they will soften up later.

lower heat a little. add black beans. stir toss stir. after a few minutes add tomatoes and jalapenos. stir them in. get out your ground cumin. sprinkle cumin thoroughly, stir in, let cook. mix should be bubbling a little but not boiling. let it continue to cook for about five minutes, adding cumin once in a while. the more cumin the better, i love the stuff so much i often add it three or four times to get the right amount going.

when mix looks good and cooked, remove from heat and get your tortillas ready. sprinkle grated cheese on tortilla, scoop mix onto tortilla and wrap like burrito. zap in microwave for 30 seconds to get the cheese good and melted. add salsa on top or next to burrito for flavor. enjoy!
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Old 01-30-08, 01:53 PM
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it's good with and without rice! this recipe is highly adjustable - you can add some mushrooms along with the green pepper, that's good too. or changing out the cheddar for pepper jack cheese, mmm so good

edited to add: another thing, i vary from using flour tortillas to corn tortillas... really this recipe is hard to mess up!
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Old 06-18-08, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by DanielS View Post
As for anyone wanting to start a debate on this thread - we vegetarians get this crap all the bloody time and we really don't care. We have heard it all before. Many times. Its boring.
I think my favorite part is the way everyone tells me how hard it is for a vegetarian to get enough protein. You know, it isn't like I've been doing it for about a year and a half or anything and have and idea how to get what my body needs!
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Old 07-18-09, 08:40 AM
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I've been a vegetarian for almost a year and i've never eaten an "actual" vegetarian recipe. it's not that i dont want to it's just i haven't looked for any because my diet has not really changed. you may think your diet is limited but its not. I'll try to post some of my meatless creations
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Old 07-18-09, 05:14 PM
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Hummus > All
(and no, I am not currently a veggie or vegan, although I have been both at times in my life.)
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Old 07-18-09, 05:34 PM
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I have been a vegetarian since I was about 17, I'm 36. Now, do as I say, not as I do Meaning? I'm a bad vegetarian! However, my husband and I do make some great things and use some great products as well.

First, there is a great line of "sausage" that we find at nature markets and Whole Foods. The brand is Field Roast and we just love their roast and their Apple Chicken Sausage. http://www.fieldroast.com/products.htm It's not cheap so we usually dice the sausage up and use it as the meat in an otherwise homemade stir fry.

Two other staples that we try to ALWAYS have in the fridge:

Shredded Carrots that are marinated in a sauce of olive oil, vinegar (we've used both balsamic and wine), a little garlic, and pepper. This is SO yummy and healthy.

Vegetarian Chopped Liver (a.k.a. pate): In a food processor combine: 1 cup walnuts, 1 cup lentils, 1 large onion sauteed first, 2 cubes veggie chicken bouillon, 2 cups water, 1 tsp olive oil. This is DELICIOUS! You can adjust quantities to your taste of course. Chill then eat.

There are two other vegetables we discovered that are just amazing and different. Fennel and Celery Root (Celeriac). For the fennel I just slice it up into bite sized pieces, add lemon juice, a very small amount of olive oil, and pepper. It's great! It also cooks great.

For the Celery Root you can find recipes that are like a coleslaw. We like to cut it into cubes, brush it with olive oil, sprinkle salt, and bake it. It comes out tasting like roasted potates but is healthier!
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Old 07-18-09, 06:20 PM
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I've been a vegetarian since 1990. I'm 35. Next year is my 20 year "anniversary." It's important to make you sure you hit your marks in regards to B vitamins. You don't need as much protein as you think. Us chicks need to make sure we get enough iron. Eat whole wheat pasta with tomato sauce (avoid eating dairy in a meal that's high in Iron.) My coworker is turning veg (not my fault!) and she was researching online that vegetarian diet = non heme iron. This means we need to eat MORE of it than if we were consuming heme iron, the kind in animal flesh. I didn't even know that.

To get complete protein eat beans and rice in the same day. I read somewhere it doesn't have to be at the same time.

I'm not a vegan, I'm a Lacto-ovo Vegetarian. Vegans occasionally annoy me with their sanctimony and "holier than thou" attitude. I've been a vegetarian longer than some of them have been alive. Some of them seem to think us lacto-ovos aren't "real" vegetarians.
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Old 07-18-09, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Luddite View Post
I've been a vegetarian since 1990. I'm 35. Next year is my 20 year "anniversary." It's important to make you sure you hit your marks in regards to B vitamins. You don't need as much protein as you think. Us chicks need to make sure we get enough iron. Eat whole wheat pasta with tomato sauce (avoid eating dairy in a meal that's high in Iron.) My coworker is turning veg (not my fault!) and she was researching online that vegetarian diet = non heme iron. This means we need to eat MORE of it than if we were consuming heme iron, the kind in animal flesh. I didn't even know that.

To get complete protein eat beans and rice in the same day. I read somewhere it doesn't have to be at the same time.

I'm not a vegan, I'm a Lacto-ovo Vegetarian. Vegans occasionally annoy me with their sanctimony and "holier than thou" attitude. I've been a vegetarian longer than some of them have been alive. Some of them seem to think us lacto-ovos aren't "real" vegetarians.
Vegans must whisper behind my back, I'm really a pescatarian. But, I eat fish less than once a month usually. My husband will eat kosher meat and I'll eat fish, but we only eat those things outside our house. We only eat out at vegan and veggie restaurants though. Luckily, there are TONS near us.
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Old 07-18-09, 07:02 PM
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Check out "The Thrive Diet" from Brendan Brazier. The guy is a ironman vegan athlete from Canada, and really goes into a vegan approach to sport nutrition in that book. Also has a lot of recipes.
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Old 07-18-09, 09:24 PM
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Vegan for 3.5 years myself. I don't claim to be an expert or anything, but we do a LOT of cooking and have a huge library of cookbooks, so if anyone is looking for a recipe or anything, I'll be glad to help if I can...
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Old 07-20-09, 10:33 PM
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"How to Cook Everything Vegetarian" by Mark Bittman has become my vegetarian bible...
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Old 07-21-09, 05:14 AM
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I know several vegetarians quite well, and in general, they do not appear any healthier than meat-eaters.

From what I can tell, general health seems to be MUCH more dependent on exercise, than on diet - as long as the diet is reasonable.

in particular, vegetarians who don't exercise seem to be as prone to being overweight as meat eaters who don't exercise.

What I have seen is that some vegetarians seem to replace meat with a lot of high-fat foods that are probably worse for you than meat - especially as far as weight gain is concerned. They also tend to eat constantly, and can easily end up consuming more calories than meat-eaters.

I only know one vegan, and he's pretty skinny.

As for myself - I don't consume much meat. I'm not sure why. I often cook meat for my family (I do the cooking in my house), but end up just eating the vegetables. When I do eat meat, it's usually just a small portion - especially beef. with chicken and turkey i tend to have somewhat larger portions. So, I do eat meat regularly, just not a lot of it. I'm 5'10", 165lbs.

Anyway, my own experience, from watching friends and family, is that if your main reason for becoming a vegetarian is to loose weight, or become "healthier" - think again. Both of those things are better accomplished through exercise.
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Old 07-23-09, 12:41 PM
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From what I can tell, general health seems to be MUCH more dependent on exercise, than on diet - as long as the diet is reasonable
I'll attest first hand. I'm going on about 17 years as a strict vegetarian. My reasons for being vegetarian are not health based. Many vegetarians are "health-conscious" and thus make thoughtful decisions about what goes into their body ... resulting in perhaps above average health and a healthy lean physique.

But that isn't all of us ... I make choices in my diet with little regard to things like "fat-content" .. I will eagerly consume a bag of chips or a tub of ice cream while being lazy in front of the TV. I am a little overweight and have horrible cholesterol.

Point being, being "healthy" is another objective/choice, distinct and separate from being "vegetarian". Some folks may elect to reach first objective by achieving the second, but I don't think they necessary go hand in hand.
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For me, the healthy things you can't see are the important things.

Five years ago my cholesterol was 272. After going vegan, my cholesterol is now 83. Animal-based foods are the only foods that have cholesterol in them.

Also, I am the only person in my immediate family who does not have high blood pressure.

However, health was not my primary reason to give up animal products. I have a hard time differentiating between animals called "pets" and animals called "food". Several years back, a kid in our neighborhood stole someone's dog, cut its head off, hung it up by its back legs, and skinned it. Naturally everyone in the neighborhood was upset. His reasoning was that he visited his uncle's farm and that's what they did to the pigs. He said he looked up to his uncle and wanted to work for him, so he was just practicing.

That made me ask myself - why is it wrong to do that to a dog, but people get paid to do it to pigs, cows, and chickens?

Anyways... not trying to start an argument or anything. I live my life the way I think I should and let others do the same with their lives. Just stating my point of view for whatever it's worth...
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Old 07-23-09, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by BearsPaw View Post
Anyways, if you are worried about getting enough vitamin X, you may wish to track your meals on this website: www.fitday.com.
IIRC, vegetarian diets are sometimes low in vitamin B, so adding a bit of seaweed helps (nori and kombu are common). Otherwise, eat your beans and tofu and the rest is pretty easy.

I'm a lazy vegetarian: I like tofu, but I'll eat fish, poultry or even beef once in a blue moon, just to hedge my bets. However, folks like Peter Singer make a pretty compelling case for going pure vegan on an ethical basis.
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Old 07-23-09, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by palookabutt View Post
IIRC, vegetarian diets are sometimes low in vitamin B, so adding a bit of seaweed helps (nori and kombu are common). Otherwise, eat your beans and tofu and the rest is pretty easy.

I'm a lazy vegetarian: I like tofu, but I'll eat fish, poultry or even beef once in a blue moon, just to hedge my bets. However, folks like Peter Singer make a pretty compelling case for going pure vegan on an ethical basis.
So you're not a vegetarian. You're a picky eater...

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Old 07-29-09, 08:53 PM
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I have been vegan almost 6 years. How time flies...

vegweb.com has tons of wonderful recipes. tons!

2 cups of granola and 1/2 cup syrup ontop with some blueberries. Add in whatever else and you have an easy simple pre ride breakfast adding up to over 1300 calories.
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Old 07-30-09, 01:59 AM
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I've thought about going veg a few times, but like to keep the option for meat when I feel like it. I stick to mostly fish and lean white meats, only occasionally will I have red. In fact, a lot of the time my meals contain no animal protein. I never notice much difference in terms of recovery.
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