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Old 04-26-08, 09:06 PM
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What are you favorite or must have supplements

I am fairy new to the form, but it seem like a lot of good info to be found here so I thought I would throw this out.

What supplements do you use or have you used that worked the best? I know we will get a ton of different answers, but I would like to see if any get more votes than other.

Here is what I used and are on my must use list.

NO-Explode by BSN-
Nothing gives me a energy burst like this stuff. I have tried a lot of different NO (Nitrous Oxide inhibitors) products and this stuff is great. It is a must before any workout or ride. It will make me jittery if I take it and donít ride or workout.

Sports Legs
I thought they were a gimmick until I tried them. But when taken as directed, 5 before you start and 5 every 2 Ĺ hrs, my leg burn due to lactic acid build up is cut by at least 80% I use these on any ride that I know I will ride hard for over 3 hrs.

Hammer Gel and Sustained Energy mixture.
This recipe was give to me by a friend who does Ironmans.
In one of the small Hammer Gel squeeze bottles, I fill it Ĺ full of Hammer Gel and add 3 teaspoons of Sustained Energy top off with water ad shake up. Take a shot (1/4 bottle )about every hr. Since using this concoction I have never bonked. ( knock on wood ).

Beverly International Glutamine Select with BCAAs
The best Glutamine I have ever used. 2 scoops in a bottle to sip during training and 1 scoope in 8oz of water as a recovery drink.

These 4 are my staples and continue to try others, but for now these are the what work the best for me.

What are yours**********?
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Old 04-27-08, 08:12 AM
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Personally i prefer MRI products (exspensive yes, but actually researched). I stay way clear of any BSN products.

MRI NO2 (stopped taking it because the pump was too much...it HURT..)
MRI CE2 (best creatine i have ever taken)
ON 100% Whey
Cytosports Cytomax
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Old 04-27-08, 07:28 PM
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i have been thinking about taking the NO-Explode, some of the guys i ride with say they take it and i have read about it online a little bit, but is it so different from taking some GU or Carb Boom(what I usually have).
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Old 04-27-08, 09:12 PM
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Fish oil, helps keep my knees lubed up. Good for the brain and about a million other things too.

MSM+Glucosamine if my knees start acting up.

Whey protein isolate. And that's about it. I keep it simple.

After reading the active ingredients to SportsLegs, I'm fairly positive I could get the exact same nutrition by eating a salad and exposing my skin to the sun.
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Old 04-27-08, 09:20 PM
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I am a huge fan of a very effective supplement called "real food".

But if you want further info on supplements, do a search in this forum on "supplements". You'll come up with pages and pages asking the same question you've just asked.
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Originally Posted by Machka View Post
I am a huge fan of a very effective supplement called "real food".
I hate this attitude so damn much. There is a difference between supplementing and eating. No one takes a pile of pills and says they are eating right. On the same note, no one can get the quantities needed of certain scientifically studied substances through real food.

That being said, some cheap and proven supplements that I think any cyclist should be taking:
- Creatine Monohydrate - absolutely proven and dirt-cheap way to increase your levels of ATP - 5g a day
- Beta Alanine - proven and dirt-cheap way to increase your bodies carnosine levels - take 4-6g a day
- Bulk maltodextrin - use for preworkout energy if you need a small liquid meal, mix with whey protein islolate for recovery drinks, make your own gel if you are hardcore
- Bulk whey protein isolate - for recovery drinks or use in a long ride
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L-Glutamine (but, only in a recovery drink, never before a ride or race).

It seems to really help a LOT with muscle recovery - I'm hardly ever sore after rides, runs, or races since I've started using it.

5-10 grams in my post-exercise recovery drink, and another 5-10 grams just before bed, and I'm good to go the next day.
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Old 04-30-08, 07:33 PM
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Whey protein before resistance workouts (pushups, pullups, weights) and thats it.
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+1 for Fish Oil. Definitely helps my creaky knees.

Some kind of on the bike food or drink is good for rides 2 hrs +. Maybe a shorter one, depending.

I do b complexes and a multi every now and then.

I have no idea if any of this makes a difference, except that I'm pretty sure the Fish Oil helps the knees.

Things that I am absolutely positive make a difference: sleep, full recovery between highly intense workouts, and a generally healthy diet.
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Originally Posted by Telix View Post
I hate this attitude so damn much. There is a difference between supplementing and eating. No one takes a pile of pills and says they are eating right. On the same note, no one can get the quantities needed of certain scientifically studied substances through real food.
This attitude coincides with ones goals in regards to fitness and the extents they are willing to go to achieve them. If someones goal does not include competition, they may not give a rats ass about their levels of "certain scientifically studied substances".

Myself i am not interested in taking 20 pills a day, I have a hard enough time taking the half a dozen that I do consider worth taking. That and most suppliments seem to be so overpriced that you would think pharmaceutical companies were out to try to be the richest companies in the world....oh wait......
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Old 05-01-08, 06:47 AM
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i like real food too!

however, Glucosamine has really helped me recover from some nagging knee pain left over from the 07 Chicago Marathon.

as for cycling i love Hammer Nutrition. I use the Gels, HEED, & RECOVERITE. great stuff. later.
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Originally Posted by Telix View Post
I hate this attitude so damn much. There is a difference between supplementing and eating. No one takes a pile of pills and says they are eating right. On the same note, no one can get the quantities needed of certain scientifically studied substances through real food.

That being said, some cheap and proven supplements that I think any cyclist should be taking:
- Creatine Monohydrate - absolutely proven and dirt-cheap way to increase your levels of ATP - 5g a day
- Beta Alanine - proven and dirt-cheap way to increase your bodies carnosine levels - take 4-6g a day
- Bulk maltodextrin - use for preworkout energy if you need a small liquid meal, mix with whey protein islolate for recovery drinks, make your own gel if you are hardcore
- Bulk whey protein isolate - for recovery drinks or use in a long ride
And I don't like the attitude that we "need" to pay big money for things that end up in our bodily waste products. But hey, I guess someone is getting rich off of all those who want to spend the big money on this stuff. Ah, the power of advertizing!

I don't know about you, but I can get all the vitamins and minerals I need through real food.
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works for me
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$20.00 for a month supply of protein isnt that much to me, and no it just doesnt go down the toilet. It works, at least it does for me. I have lifted with and without, i make MUCH MORE GAINS (strength and mass) with whey protein supplementation than without. I have had the same results from creatine and beta alanine.

Thats what i'm abooot.
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Real food. Real, good food, not fast, fried food. If everything on your plate is fried and brown, you're killing yourself.

Fruit, grains, veggies, some meat, dairy.

Sad that it's become a foreign concept.

It works.
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I take 12-15 grams of fish oil per day.

Some may call this excessive. I don't care. How my joints feel is more important than the opinions of others. To get this quantity and quality - very low mercury content - by ingesting fish would not be practical. Sure, one can probably acquire salmon from some pristine area caught by a guy named Sven and cleaned by his virgin daughters as they sing with the voice of angels. But that kind of money should go to my mortgage. And even I, who love seafood, do not want to eat fish every single day.

Glucosamine/chondroitin is another supplement I take daily. I'm not aware of any food that has concentrated amounts. Again, it's a matter of pragmatics over dogma. Those who advocate a food-only philosophy are well advised to remember that not all of us are so fortunate.

Yes, the market is filled with hope-in-a-bottle. And even those that have stood the test of time (such as creatine) are not needed by everyone.

However, as long as one takes care of the fundamentals (sleep, sound diet, etc.) certain supplements have a place.
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cheap whey (i have trouble eating enough)
powdered milk (ditto, + real milk always tastes spoiled to me)
fish oil
multivitamin (mostly think this just creates expensive urine, but my grandpa yells at me about them)
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Low fat chocolate milk.
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I am a huge fan of Cytomax. It is great on the bike & I think makes a super recovery drink. I can really feel the difference when I drink 16 to 24 oz of it after a ride (in addition to some protein - real food; Cheeseburger, Fish, something). I also use Gu Packets, Clif Shots & homemade trailmix. I like bananas too, but rarely carry them on the bike.
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I've probably tired most supplements over the last 10 years with begin into bodybuilding for a lot of it

honestly the only stuff I've treid that works is

whey Protien
Creatine mono-hydrate
glutamine

that being said the only supple,nt I take reguarly is Whey
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I do choc Milk after a ride. I also make sure to do quality carbs and protein in between. If you choose your diet well, there is no real need for anything else.

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Originally Posted by Machka View Post
And I don't like the attitude that we "need" to pay big money for things that end up in our bodily waste products. But hey, I guess someone is getting rich off of all those who want to spend the big money on this stuff. Ah, the power of advertizing!

I don't know about you, but I can get all the vitamins and minerals I need through real food.
So what brought some of you (who don't take supplements) to a supplement thread in the training forum?
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So what brought some of you (who don't take supplements) to a supplement thread in the training forum?
It is so they can enlighten us with there holier than thou attitude.
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I have long considered supplementing with animal flesh products, but so far have rejected their use. The natural way to supplement with such products has always been to run them down and kill them with a stone knife. I just don't think I could do that, although as endurance athletes we are specially trained for that pursuit. Since I don't seem to be able to get enough protein naturally, I've fallen back on whey protein, which comes UPS. So much simpler.

I just hope they don't feed dairy cows soybeans, corn, or other products which can be used to make ethanol.
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