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SSP 12-12-03 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by flyefisher
If you think about it, the fact that weight loss and not weight gain is such a concern to us says a lot about our country. The problem we have is that there is TOO much food! We have it good here.

An Indian guy was once quoted as saying he wanted to move to America because even the poor people are fat....

I simply eat 500 calories less than my daily requirement, factoring in cycling time, and I lose about 1-2 pounds a week. I base it on calories and not type of food. Every 3 or 4 days I have something great like Pizza or Chinese food.

It's no longer an issue just in "our country", assuming you mean the USA (BTW - I wasn't aware that this is a USA-specific forum).

As food becomes more available in other countries, and physical activity rates decline, the rate of obesity is climbing worldwide. The US is on the cutting edge of this phenomenon, but the rest of the world is getting fatter too. See http://www.who.int/nut/obs.htm for some background on the global issues. Or, just Google "obesity world health".

flyefisher 12-12-03 01:24 PM

Let's just call it industrialized countries. Based on my observations, however, obesity is more prevalent in the USA than in any other country I've visted (I've been to quite a few, both industrialized and non-industrialized, and even speak some of their languages).

SSP 12-12-03 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by flyefisher
Let's just call it industrialized countries. Based on my observations, however, obesity is more prevalent in the USA than in any other country I've visted (I've been to quite a few, both industrialized and non-industrialized, and even speak some of their languages).

Well, we're defintely showing the rest of the world the way :(, but the problem is certainly not limited even to industrialized countries. It's starting to show up, for instance, in Africa. Pre-industrial countries are getting exposed to the same kinds of diets, and as their people move to the cities they are less physically active, thus, fatter.

For instance, a recent study on Morocco and Tunisia: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q..._uids=11238780

"Overall levels of obesity, identified by body mass index (BMI) > or = 30 kg/m(2), were 12.2% in Morocco and 14.4% in Tunisia. Obesity is significantly higher among women than among men in both countries (22.7% vs. 6.7% in Tunisia and 18% vs. 5.7% in Morocco) and prevalence among women has tripled over the past 20 y. Half of all women are overweight or obese (BMI > 25) with 50.9% in Tunisia and 51.3% in Morocco."

As the authors note: "These are alarming trends for public health professionals and policy makers in countries still grappling with the public health effects of malnutrition and micronutrient deficiencies."

flyefisher 12-12-03 03:34 PM

Good info. I read the article, it was amazing to find out that so many underdeveloped countries have the same problem...

RWTD 12-12-03 05:02 PM

Marty
In this age of extremes if a sound balanced eating plan has to be marketed with sexy hipish hype like SBD or BFL etc. to get people interested then I'm all for it.Atkins or ketogenic type diets seem most useful to those severely overweight and largely sedentary or those severely addicted to overeating carbs and have to get a handle on it cold turkey.I find the concept useful and though my bodytype is not at all one that does well on low carb I incorporate the concept it into my diet on a limited basis say if I have topped up my carb stores and don't have any physical activity planned.Regardless I think the goal should be a balanced carb intake whether one starts at a high level and gradually cuts back or a low level and gradually adds them back in.

pletcgm 12-12-03 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by SSP
Well, at your current weight and height, you Body Mass Index is 26.6. By some standards, this would be considered slightly overweight. But, BMI is somewhat controversial, and if you are very muscular it could be irrelevant.

Your goal is to lose 13 pounds, which would get you down to 157. At that weight, your Body Mass Index would be 24.6. I'm not in health care or exercise physiology, but that certainly seems like a reasonable goal to me.

In July, I went to a trainer and had him to calculate my BMI. At that time, it was 17.9. Much of mine is muscle. At my weight, I used to be a size 36, but when I really started cycling hard and commuting to work everyday, it dropped my waist size to a 32. I would really like to lose more weight to around 150 pounds, strictly for cycling, otherwise I would stay where I am right now.

SSP 12-12-03 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by pletcgm
In July, I went to a trainer and had him to calculate my BMI. At that time, it was 17.9. Much of mine is muscle. At my weight, I used to be a size 36, but when I really started cycling hard and commuting to work everyday, it dropped my waist size to a 32. I would really like to lose more weight to around 150 pounds, strictly for cycling, otherwise I would stay where I am right now.

I think you're confusing "Body Mass Index" with "Body Fat Percentage".

If your BMI was 17.9, you'd be a candidate for an anorexia clinic. BMI is determined by a formula, based on your weight and height only. This website has a lot of good info on Body Mass Index: http://www.halls.md/index.htm

If your Body Fat Percentage is 17.9, and you weigh 170, that means you're carrying 30.4 pounds of fat. Getting that down closer to 10-12% would mean losing roughly 10 pounds.

pletcgm 12-13-03 11:33 PM


Originally Posted by SSP
I think you're confusing "Body Mass Index" with "Body Fat Percentage".

If your BMI was 17.9, you'd be a candidate for an anorexia clinic. BMI is determined by a formula, based on your weight and height only. This website has a lot of good info on Body Mass Index: http://www.halls.md/index.htm

If your Body Fat Percentage is 17.9, and you weigh 170, that means you're carrying 30.4 pounds of fat. Getting that down closer to 10-12% would mean losing roughly 10 pounds.

Thanks for the catch, I did mean body fat percentage, instead of BMI.

shimano 12-19-03 06:58 AM

Cycling Software
 

Originally Posted by SSP
I've not studied it in detail, but from what I've read on other forums, Atkins does not make sense for cyclists, or other endurance athletes. Carbs are our fuel, and restricting them risks bonking.

I don't think there's any magic formula to weight loss. If you're eating less than you're burning, your weight will go down.

As for losing weight over the winter...I find that very difficult. This time of year, I'm happy just to keep my weight stable, and not pack on pounds.

After the first of the year, I start to focus on my cycling goals for the year, and one of them is usually my weight. I try to record my weight twice a week (Monday and Friday mornings), on a Tanita scale that's accurate to 0.2 lbs. By keeping track of my weight fairly frequently, and graphing the results (using my CycliStats program), I'm able to know how I'm doing and whether or not I need to cut back on food intake or portion size and/or put in more miles on the bike. For me, those twice weekly "weigh-ins", and the resulting graphs, are sufficient motivation to watch what I eat.

BTW - congrats on your weight loss so far...that's awesome.

What type of cycling software are you using?

SipperPhoto 12-19-03 11:10 AM

Well I finished reading the SBD book... very interesting stuff... I think as far as a "lifestyle change" it looks to be a pretty good one... my wife and I will probably start it after the 1st of the year...

Marty, I'm in the same boat as you.. I don;t really need to lose any weight... I'm 5'10" and about 162... my wife on the other hand needs to lose, so I'm hoping that this will benefit her...

What interested me most was the medical benefits this diet seems to have... most of my family has high blood pressure, bad cholesterol, high triglycerides... I'm not going out like that.. I'll be 29 next week... all my stats are good... and I intend to keep them that way...

as far as adding carbs before a big cycling day... the book seems to say it is ok, just not to overdo it... which to me sounds like common sense... if I'm gonna go out and ride 65-100 miles, yeah.. maybe I need to load up on some good pasta, and stuff beforehand...


I'll post updates once we get started

Jeff

SSP 12-19-03 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by shimano
What type of cycling software are you using?

My program is called CycliStats (http://www.CycliStats.com). It's a ride diary and training log program that I wrote after years of experimenting with spreadsheets and other cycling software. CycliStats tracks basic ride data (distance, time, speed), and estimates calories burned on the bike, and elevation gained. It's designed primarily for "fitness" and "avid recreational" cyclists, but includes features that could also be used by competitive cyclists.

Besides the cycling features, CycliStats also includes a Health tracking feature that allows you to keep tabs on your weight, resting heart rate, blood pressure, etc. I use this feature to motivate my training and my eating habits by weighing myself and recording the results twice per week (Monday and Friday mornings). I find this a lot easier than counting calories every day - if my weight is up, I just cut back on snacks and limit portion sizes until it comes back down. Likewise, if my weight is down, I don't stress over having a bit of chocolate or a beer.

CycliStats recently received a favorable review by cycling author Fred Matheny, on his roadbikerider.com web site (http://www.roadbikerider.com/pr8.htm#CycliStats).

You can test drive CycliStats for 45 days for free, by downloading it from here:
http://www.shastasoftware.com/CycliStats/Download.htm

Sorry if this is too much of a sales pitch, but I'm pretty proud of it, and you did ask! :)

Bokkie 12-28-03 03:13 AM


Originally Posted by SSP
...I try to record my weight twice a week (Monday and Friday mornings), on a Tanita scale that's accurate to 0.2 lbs...

SSP, when weighing yourself, never underestimate the weight loss by having a good dump beforehand.
:D

Truthfully, I can shave off another 500g after a good 'un.

wabbit 01-01-04 06:02 PM

More information I didn't need to know.

Living in a warm climate won't guarantee that you will stay slim- look at the southern states. They have the highest obesity rates, diabetes and high blood pressure! For some reason, that nice weather doesn't seem to inspire them to get out there. Houston is the fattest city! I think in canada we appreciate the warm weather so in summer, we get out there! Putting on weight in the winter is not only because of inactivity, it's biology. We put on weight to keep us warmer- it's the way humans are made. However, we don't need that weight since we have heating!

I only gained about 2-3 pounds last year, with the gym and spinning class, and lost it and more during the summer.

I should mention that while canada is still way behind the US in obesity rates, we are rapidly gaining due to a generation of kids who never exercise, eat junk, sit in front of Xboxes.

RiPHRaPH 01-03-04 08:10 AM

the key is to adjust your consumption so those first few pounds don't escalate into more. many ride less in the winter but eat like we were still in mid season form. there is no bad foods, just bad diets.

love the food
hate the pounds


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