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Old 06-30-08, 03:50 AM
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Milk

I usually drink milk after a long ride and was wondering what benefits there are of whole vs 2% vs skim.
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Old 06-30-08, 06:44 AM
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The difference is fat, and it's right on the label. I get skim milk to which a
little protein has been added. You prob have something like it where you are.

Also, once you get used to skim and 1%, whole milk seems overly rich.
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Old 06-30-08, 06:55 AM
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I love 2% milk...
I am going to try 1% soon.
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Old 06-30-08, 08:19 PM
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I know this much but I was wondering it would be more beneficial to have more fat calories since I'm often doing 3+ hour rides and burning a lot of fat in the process.
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Old 06-30-08, 09:09 PM
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Milk - what a joke.
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Old 06-30-08, 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by EJ123 View Post
Milk - what a joke.
Yeah really, I mean how could we take seriously the most complex, yet all natural, food on earth? The one so versatile and so necessary for mammalian life... nah we better just make fun of it.

Seriously, you're the joke. Milk is one of the greatest food stuffs we have, enjoy it all you want. I just finished a big ole glass of it myself, and I liked it!
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Old 06-30-08, 11:01 PM
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Here the choice is only skim or 3.7% and so i usually go for the 3.7%
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Old 07-01-08, 08:16 AM
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2% tastes a lot better too. **** milk is good too (i think the Americans don't like this term for milk; it's the one up from 2%).

2% is great. I don't like 1% as much, but i still recommend drinking it over nothing. Keeps your bones strong, full of energy + protein... cheap! win, win, win, win...
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Old 07-01-08, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by sharptailhunter View Post
Yeah really, I mean how could we take seriously the most complex, yet all natural, food on earth? The one so versatile and so necessary for mammalian life... nah we better just make fun of it.

Seriously, you're the joke. Milk is one of the greatest food stuffs we have, enjoy it all you want. I just finished a big ole glass of it myself, and I liked it!
Couldn't agree more.

That is...when you actually drink it as you say - 'yet all natural' - raw, unpasteurized, unhomogenized. But to each his own.
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Old 07-01-08, 10:38 AM
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The difference is simply the amount of highly saturated fat.

As to raw milk, while I had plenty as a kid on the farm, I also knew exactly where it had been the entire time before it reached my mouth, likely from the cow's conception.

No way in hell I'd trust it after leaving the farm in the back of a 10,ooo gallon tanker doing the rounds. Good God, we can't even keep tomatoes safe at room temperature.
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Old 07-01-08, 10:51 AM
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when you actually drink it as you say - 'yet all natural' - raw, unpasteurized, unhomogenized.
Don't get me started on the marketing cr@p that people buy into. As mentioned by CastIron, how do you know that your supreme organic version is all that it claims to be? Did you watch them birth the calf, raise it, feed it, milk it and then transport the milk to some hippy granola store where you undoubtedly paid way too much for it? I personally like the USDA/FDA and the job they do. And, after having a BS in biology/microbiology, I think I'm better off with the pasteurized stuff. But, like you said, to each his own. I just can't stand it when people think that their organic stuff is so great to the point that others shouldn't eat anything but that. It's milk for crying out loud. Just drink it and ride your organic bike!
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Most organic milk is still Pasteurized. And that's largely a good thing if you're willing to pay the cost for the certification. Having said that, the teet is dipped in disinfectant solution before the milking machine is applied to keep the matter sanitary, so there's some marginal chemical exposure at the outset. Further, there are some health benefits to raw milk consumed from childhood. Those benefits come with the risks, however. Those risks also compound with every step in the handling process, which is why raw away from the farm is for other people IMHO.
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We are the only animal that drinks milk after infancy. Cows milk is for baby cows.
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Originally Posted by PotatoSlayer View Post
I know this much but I was wondering it would be more beneficial to have more fat calories since I'm often doing 3+ hour rides and burning a lot of fat in the process.
That's the point. Why would you want to replace the fat? Burn the fatr replace the carbs and protein and you are good to go.
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Old 07-02-08, 05:47 PM
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We are the only animal that drinks milk after infancy. Cows milk is for baby cows.


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Why not dogmilk? Makes as much sense I guess.

Milk is designed to make a 200 pound calf into a 2000 pound cow.
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Originally Posted by Stunning Stu View Post
Why not dogmilk? Makes as much sense I guess.

Milk is designed to make a 200 pound calf into a 2000 pound cow.
My guess is that cows put out more milk for the cost of upkeep. I wonder what dog milk tastes like...

I agree that milk isn't a vitamin.. it should be viewed as a food. I think the main problem with milk is when people use milk like water not understanding that it is full of fat and protein... but we're all smarter than that in here aren't we??
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Originally Posted by Stunning Stu View Post
Why not dogmilk? Makes as much sense I guess.

Milk is designed to make a 200 pound calf into a 2000 pound cow.
Or goat milk. Oh, wait...
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Originally Posted by StunningStu View Post
We are the only animal that drinks milk after infancy. Cows milk is for baby cows.
Your logic is flawed IMHO.
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Milk is designed to make a 200 pound calf into a 2000 pound cow.
So I guess all that grain/hay that they eat is just like salad is to us?
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So I guess all that grain/hay that they eat is just like salad is to us?
exactly. it's all in the milk. latent energy reserves that, for some reason, humans can't digest.
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i like whole milk the best, i just like the taste of it better. Specially with my frosted flakes.
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Totally agree that cow's milk is designed for calves, not adult humans. I eat a very small amount of cheese every so often, but dairy constitutes a tiny percentage of my diet.
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Totally agree that cow's milk is designed for calves, not adult humans. I eat a very small amount of cheese every so often, but dairy constitutes a tiny percentage of my diet.
"Designed" isn't the issue. Our noses weren't "designed" to hold up our sunglasses, but they work just fine in that capacity.
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