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Old 06-11-09, 09:59 AM
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Vitamins, what do you take?

Today, I switched from GNC sport vitapaks to Animal vitamin packs. The Animals are a lot less plus you get more vitamins. Does anyone else use the Animal packs?
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Old 06-11-09, 10:50 AM
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No, but does it matter that much? In all honesty, you shouldn't need them if you eat a healthy, balanced diet.
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Old 06-11-09, 12:48 PM
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in no particular order
over 50 daily multiple
folic acid
b6
b12
calcium
vitamin D
omega 3 fish oil
potassium
magnesium
selenium
euchinacea
vitamin C

whey protein powder, but hat's not a vitamin ...
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Old 06-11-09, 02:51 PM
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I just go to Costco and get the following

Kirkland Premium Performance MultiVit
Kirkland FIsh Oil
Kirkland Calcium Citrate.

I really dont think $$$ brands matter. And like what above said, you still need to eat balanced diet.
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Old 06-12-09, 07:25 AM
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The "get everything you need from food" is a myth in today's world of processed foods and junk that's out there and most people don't have enough time to eat the correct amounts of everything they need. Everyone should take a supplement! I use just Hammer Nutrition's Premium Insurance Caps (I find you really don't need the other stuff) and haven't looked back. Check them out via the link below. Gives an active person or athlete everything they need.
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Old 06-12-09, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by slickjolly View Post
The "get everything you need from food" is a myth in today's world of processed foods and junk that's out there and most people don't have enough time to eat the correct amounts of everything they need. Everyone should take a supplement! I use just Hammer Nutrition's Premium Insurance Caps (I find you really don't need the other stuff) and haven't looked back. Check them out via the link below. Gives an active person or athlete everything they need.
It's hard to take your advice seriously when you sound like a shill for Hammer...
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Old 06-12-09, 09:24 AM
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do the souls of lesser cyclists count as vitamins?
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Old 06-14-09, 07:52 PM
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1 multiple vitamin 1 fish oil and 1 condroiten/glucoseamine (sp) pill all washed down with a beer. However I'm not training/racing/trying to crush souls in the park so... ya
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Old 06-15-09, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by gregf83 View Post
It's hard to take your advice seriously when you sound like a shill for Hammer...
That's what it seems like, doesn't it? The fact is, I am a shill for Hammer because I've used their stuff and it works for me. Don't you like to spread the word on good products that you use when there is so much garbage out there?
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Old 06-15-09, 08:33 AM
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Old 06-15-09, 08:58 AM
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-might be useful to check this website as a few vitamins/supplements don't contain what they claim to contain or they contain harmful ingredients (like lead).

www.consumerlab.com

(lab that tests vitamins, supplements, etc.)
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Old 06-17-09, 08:08 PM
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Calcium Citrate
Vitamin D

Those are my only short comings according to blood work. Everything else I'm more than maintaining with diet apparently.
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Not an independent source of information

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-might be useful to check this website as a few vitamins/supplements don't contain what they claim to contain or they contain harmful ingredients (like lead).

www.consumerlab.com

(lab that tests vitamins, supplements, etc.)
I Do Not recommend that Consumerlab.com be considered as an 'independent' source of information. They sell their services / endorsement to manufacturers of supplements - so they get paid by the companies they are supposed to be testing for. Hardly an unbiased source, IMHO. Be an informed consumer - buy from reputable manufacturers / brands. Like any other product if the price is too good to be true - there's a reason.
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I read recently that it is actually not a good idea to take vitamins after rides. That vitamin supplements (particularly antioxidants such as Vit C and Vit E) can negate the beneficial effects of exercise:

https://www.newscientist.com/article/...-exercise.html
https://www.scientificamerican.com/po...032A27D31E25FC
https://www.wellnessletter.com/html/w...tured0809.html
https://www.uni-protokolle.de/nachrichten/id/176846/
(and many more)


I've also discovered that I have to be very careful with Vit K. If a multi-vitamin supplement has Vit K in it, I can't take it. Vit K is a coagulant, helping the blood to clot, and my body has that covered very well all on its own.

I highly recommend getting blood work done and finding out if you are deficient in a particular vitamin or mineral ... or overloaded in a particular vitamin or mineral ... before blindly loading up on them. Vitamins and minerals can actually harm you if you take them when you don't need them.

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Old 09-11-09, 08:03 PM
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Multivitamin, lots of fish oil, glucosamine, CoQ10, turmeric in my shakes.
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Old 09-12-09, 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by slickjolly View Post
The "get everything you need from food" is a myth in today's world of processed foods and junk that's out there and most people don't have enough time to eat the correct amounts of everything they need. Everyone should take a supplement!
I'm sorry but if you can't find enough time to eat everything correctly and get everything you need from food you need to look at your priorities in life. Getting the right food should be #1.


The Real myth is that these supplements work, look it up there is no evidence whatsoever that supplements do anything.

https://www.livescience.com/health/09...ivitamins.html

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Old 09-12-09, 07:10 AM
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I'm sorry but if you can't find enough time to eat everything correctly and get everything you need from food you need to look at your priorities in life. Getting the right food should be #1.


The Real myth is that these supplements work, look it up there is no evidence whatsoever that supplements do anything.

https://www.livescience.com/health/09...ivitamins.html
Both sides of this argument seem to make sense. Food has less nutrional value and increasingly has pollutants. For example getting your omega 3 from fish would require you to eat alot of fish every day and get too much mercury. Or you could take a fish oil pill without the mercury. But there is more goodness in the food that just omega 3 or some vitamins and all that is lost if you focus on the pills.
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Old 09-12-09, 07:35 AM
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Or you could take a fish oil pill without the mercury. But there is more goodness in the food that just omega 3 or some vitamins and all that is lost if you focus on the pills.
How did you come to this assumption? Most of the fish oil pills contain mercury... A much safer way of getting omega 3's would be flax seed.

The only major food you have to look out for nowadays(when it comes to pollutants) is fish, you can easily live without fish. The nutritional argument is based on huge monocrop farms, food grown in healthy organic soil is just as nutritional as its ever been.

If you do decide to take supplements try to stick to ones that are the least processed and come from natural sources. Hemp protein, Mesquite powder, agave powder, bee pollen, propolis and flax seeds are all great supplemental items
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Hemprider, how dare you not mention hemp seeds as a reliable source of health supporting fat, especially taking into account the ratio's in which those fats are provided. Hemp has a ratio of 3/6/9 that mimics what is optimal, according to recent theories and research, of what is optimal for a human body. Not to mention its ridiculous amounts of minerals that are hard to get elsewhere, its hormonal supportive effects for both men and women, and its complete protein.
So eat your fraggin' hemp, druggie.
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Old 09-12-09, 10:58 AM
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Hemp seeds are awesome but the ratio is still higher in omega 6's then 3's, some thing like 4/1, i know some people prefer alittle more omega 3's. I personally get by with hemp seeds as my only supplementation and i seem to be doing pretty damn good
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Old 09-13-09, 06:14 PM
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Centrum regular and an extra vitamin D daily. So far, doctor agrees these are all I seem to need.
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Old 09-13-09, 08:25 PM
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trap and eat a kitten 3x weekly should do for ya
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The write up in Wiki on antioxidants had some good insights, regarding fruits and veg vs. vitamin supplements. I take a supplement (centrum 1/2 tab, fish oil tab, calcium, vitamin D, Vit C 500, Glucosamine/ chondroitin). But I also really try to get 7 to 9 serv. of fruits and vegetables, and one apple included, every day.

The article stated that supplements have not been proven to be of benefit for reduction in heart disease and some cancers, the way a diet high in fruits and vegetables have been. May be due to a complex mixture of beneficial nutrients including flavenoids and others. The article has numerous citations for more light reading.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antioxidant
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I would imagine taking all those supplements is expensive, why not spend the cash towards more fresh produce? Its not just that it has no benefit in the reduction of heart diseases and cancer. It the fact that we have no idea if they even work like they say. I would rather put my money into tried and true methods then trust some pill from a billion dollar company...
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I Do Not recommend that Consumerlab.com be considered as an 'independent' source of information. They sell their services / endorsement to manufacturers of supplements - so they get paid by the companies they are supposed to be testing for. Hardly an unbiased source, IMHO. Be an informed consumer - buy from reputable manufacturers / brands. Like any other product if the price is too good to be true - there's a reason.
Regardless of whether they are considered independent or not, their articles include thorough reviews of journal articles about supplements (absent any manufacturer information) in the journal review section of their publications. I find this section of their reviews to be unbiased--as all of their statements are backed up by a journal reference--and full of excellent references to nutrition, endocrinology and other scientific journals. I tend to bounce their reviews off of my sister who has a Ph.D. in endocrinology and is a professor at a large university. She agrees with their advice and respects the reference sources.

They also include tests of brand-specific products paid for by the manufacturers who have products included in the tests. If Consumerlab indicates that a product has lead in it, I'm definitely not taking it. I find value in that sort of information (regardless of whether they are paid or not for testing specific brands). I also find their brand reviews to be extremely matter-of-fact. And, I'm much less suspicious of a manufacturer who is open to a third party lab test of their product vs. one who would not include their products in such a review.

Certainly one should consider the source, but when the source has a wealth of related but non-marketing information, I am happy to use it to my advantage. I've found very few other sources with as much information available (besides doing my own journal reviews which can be quite time consuming). If you have one, please share as I'm always looking for new information.
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