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Old 07-05-09, 02:29 AM   #1
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Supplements vs. Food

Name some cycling specific supplements, then someone else name a food that can do the job just as well or better, if you don't know of any yourself.


1. Carb/Protein recovery shake
2. Hammer Perpetuem(carb/protein drink for long rides)
3. Protein Shakes
4. Hammer Gel (I LOVE THIS STUFF, but its pretty pricey.)


1. Milk
2. Nuts and fig newtons
3. Three egg whites
4. Bread????? Need some help here...

The point I'm trying to make by this thread is that we are all being fooled by slick marketing to some extent. I love Hammer Gel and can't stop buying the stuff.
Not that there is anything wrong with spending your money the way you want on a convenient product, it's just good to know what other options there are such as real food that isn't hyped up by marketing. I'm sure if broccoli were marketed the same way many supplements are, we'd be eating a lot more broccoli...
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Look up the ingredients and nutrients:

BTW - an alternative to Hammergel might be something like honey, or your own mixture using maltodextrin from a wine making establishment, or 100% orange juice ... something sort of liquidy and sweet.

Rather than energy bars, I eat oatmeal raisin or oatmeal chocolate chip cookies. The cookies taste better and have basically the same nutrients as energy bars.

Like I said, you've got to look it up.
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Hammer Gel : Banana
Enduralytes : Doritos

I get your point, but for your #3 - Perpetuum, the nuts and newtons might do the job as well in terms of fueling for a short-long-ride (like 4 hours or something) but if you're really riding for a LONG time (many hours to days) I think you can end up with more gastro problems because your digestive system can't deal with all the other stuff like fiber, and your digestive system isn't really working that well anyway b/c all your blood is going to your muscles, and because you need so much fuel it gets overloaded.

I don't do really long rides, but even for my medium ones (6-8 hours on the bike) if I'm riding hard I can't eat all "real food" - I need to use some gels and sports drinks and some real food. Otherwise I get too much not-completely-processed food in my system and have stomach problems.

Everyone is different for this, so experimentation is key.
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Your thread is confusing. You refer to several sports products as "supplements." They are not. They are artificial food stuffs.

The term "supplement" refers to products that are intended to "aid" or help or magnify different nutritional requirements. All sports food and drink products are not supplements. Although, they most often contain them.

On the other hand just about any supplement -could be considered a sports product aid. And in theory, because so many processed food products contain "fortified" ingredients, just about any of them could be labeled as "containing supplements." Milk, white bread, breakfast cereal are all good examples.

In any case, sports products most often differ from natural products by their nutrient density and digestibility. Your comparisons between the two are meaningless.
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I'm with Michael Pollan on this one. If my great-grandmother wouldn't recognize it as food, I don't eat it.

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4. Hammer Gel (I LOVE THIS STUFF, but its pretty pricey.)


4. Bread????? Need some help here...
Take a look at this:
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