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Old 01-27-20, 02:22 PM
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When it comes to beer I can take it or leave it. For example, I can take a pull off one of the 4 kegs in our kegerator and leave our bottled beer for later...

(we don’t drink daily, frequently going several days between beers. Whisky is a once in a while dram, especially at the price for a bottle.)
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I love single malts from Islam, so Ardbeg, Laphroaig, Lagavulin, and Caol Ila are at the top of my list. Ledaig 10 year old (from Tobermory distillery on Mull) is probably my favorite sub-hundred dollar bottle of whisky, depending in the day.
Johnnie Black, couple rocks, splash of water.
Been my drink since I was 28 years old and an older woman taught me what a proper drink was...along with some other things ; )

Ill enjoy single malt, especially after dinner, good scotch is good scotch. I just prefer a smooth blend with less idiosyncrasies that are typically native to a single malt.

Alas, rarely have the opportunity to really indulge much these days. Occasional ďsteak houseĒ night with the boys here and there.. Otherwise, one before dinner when out is about it.

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JW Platinum. It is their only blend that can have an age on the label. All of their others mix years. That said, I prefer single malt myself, in particular Laphroaig. There is something about the super strong aroma of that one that I like and others just hate, the usual comment being "I don't want to be drinking railroad ties".
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JW Platinum. It is their only blend that can have an age on the label. All of their others mix years. That said, I prefer single malt myself, in particular Laphroaig. There is something about the super strong aroma of that one that I like and others just hate, the usual comment being "I don't want to be drinking railroad ties".
My wife and I own a small plot of land next to the Laphroaig distillery. Love all of their expressions, although it makes me feel weird to call them "expressions." I like "offerings" or "bottlings" better. Anyway, I had some 10 year old Laphroaig last night, and I love the taste from first sniff to finish. It's smells like a small, quiet beach on a cool winter evening, with peat smoke from nearby fires intermingled with seaweed. Then the burning lump of charcoal lands squarely on your tongue, reminding you that medicine is good for you, even if it may kill you. As it melts its way down the back of your pallette the whisky still has enough potency remaining to make you ask if, perhaps, you somehow lit that on fire right before you took a sip. Close your mouth slightly (even though you're begging for clear air!) and exhale through your mouth and nose together: Heaven in a bottle of whisky! Makes cold rides that much better after you're home, in front of the fire, with a shower, a blanket and a good book.
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I can acknowledge many things I do are not good for my long-term physical health. Randonneuring, beer, coffee, pastries, being an office worker. All of these can have severe consequences if not moderated. All are difficult to keep in moderation.

I think attempts to rationalize alcohol consumption as healthy are just that, rationalization. It's not healthy, but it's enjoyable.
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Had a very decent Medoc tonight. And a couple of Ouzoís!

In my mind...I ride tomorrow. But letís see what happens. Lol
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Old 02-02-20, 04:37 AM
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The Greek poet Hesiod (c. 700 bc) said "....all things in moderation" or something to that effect. I'm with him.
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guessing this thread is definitely not endorsing beer, wine or whisk(e)y rides...would riding a century (and imbibing enroute) be considered in excess? asking (as always) for a friend...
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guessing this thread is definitely not endorsing beer, wine or whisk(e)y rides...would riding a century (and imbibing enroute) be considered in excess? asking (as always) for a friend...
I would think imbibing enroute would be in excess, but having beer as an incentive to finish a century definitely not in excess.

A wine tour OTOH, would definitely involve imbibing along the route. That's the whole point!

My last bottle of wine the other day was a really nice Taurasi. I much prefer the Italians these days, their varietals are much more distinct from each other, Nebbiolo, Sangiovese, Aglianico, Sagrantino, Montepulciano, Barbera, and many others.

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^the italian stuff has been hot the last 5 years or so. if the threatened french luxury goods-including wines-tariffs come to pass, italy will happily gobble up
more market share in america. read somewhere, the other day, that america now consumes more wine than any other country. dunno if it's true. i'll still
stick with france overall, as i feel the wines, as a whole, generally have better balance and gravity than elsewhere. italy has remarkable diversity, depth, quality
and value tho.
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Recently there was a report that all the wines in CA had some amount of glyphosate in them. If I get into wine it will be local or something other than CA.
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californian red wines generally have a fattiness/lushness to them. the whites? here and there. didn't always used to be that way. it's more of a since 1994 kinda thing.
things seem to be swinging back from flabby, smooth fruitbombs back to wines with balance and acidity/tannin levels tho. some (not all) wines, like clothing, are subject
to the whims/vagaries of the masses/trends.

if you're not into wine already, i don't recommend it. it can get very very expensive and very very consuming. everything else, including single malts, is cheaper.
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Old 02-05-20, 06:53 AM
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Kentucky

Beer and wine are very high carb content. Bourbon is health food? Brought to you by Wild Turkey and the Commonwealth of KY.
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Old 02-05-20, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ooga-booga View Post
californian red wines generally have a fattiness/lushness to them. the whites? here and there. didn't always used to be that way. it's more of a since 1994 kinda thing.
things seem to be swinging back from flabby, smooth fruitbombs back to wines with balance and acidity/tannin levels tho. some (not all) wines, like clothing, are subject
to the whims/vagaries of the masses/trends.

if you're not into wine already, i don't recommend it. it can get very very expensive and very very consuming. everything else, including single malts, is cheaper.
California wines are more expensive than single malt Scotch? Cali reds are going for a hundred bucks/750mL bottle these days? Thatís some great marketing, great wine, or both. I had no idea. I donít drink wine.
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California wines are more expensive than single malt Scotch? Cali reds are going for a hundred bucks/750mL bottle these days? Thatís some great marketing, great wine, or both. I had no idea. I donít drink wine.
Not quite. While there are bottles in the high$ range, there are many that are more reasonably priced, and of course the range goes from two buck chuck and up. There is a huge spread. OTOH, you don't drink a bottle of single malt in one sitting either. My wife and I almost never leave anything over on any decent bottle of wine. That's probably not healthy but we enjoy it.
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Hoppy IPA's are my reward for the 30 mile rides, and smoky scotch (Laphroaig) for the centuries.
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Hoppy IPA's are my reward for the 30 mile rides, and smoky scotch (Laphroaig) for the centuries.
Try Ardbeg 10 if you never have. Just a bit down the toad past Laphroaig and Lagavulin. Also quite good, very peaty, great on the evening of a long cold ride. (I only added that last part to keep it bike related.)
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Recently there was a report that all the wines in CA had some amount of glyphosate in them. If I get into wine it will be local or something other than CA.
Glyphosate is everywhere even human breast milk. It used to be thought of as perfectly safe now it is turning out to be one of the most toxic substances known to mankind. No wonder cancer rates are skyrocketing.

Stick to Euro wines or single malts.
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Glyphosate is everywhere even human breast milk. It used to be thought of as perfectly safe now it is turning out to be one of the most toxic substances known to mankind. No wonder cancer rates are skyrocketing.
Here's a blurb from a CBSNews.com piece regarding the concentrations of glyphosate found in common American beers and wines:
"Assuming the greatest value [of glyphosate] reported, 51.4 ppb, is correct, a 125-pound adult would have to consume 308 gallons of wine per day, every day for life to reach the US Environmental Protection Agency's glyphosate exposure limit for humans. To put 308 gallons into context, that would be more than a bottle of wine every minute, for life, without sleeping."
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Glyphosate is everywhere even human breast milk. It used to be thought of as perfectly safe now it is turning out to be one of the most toxic substances known to mankind. No wonder cancer rates are skyrocketing.

Stick to Euro wines or single malts.
Dear God don't let it be in bourbon.
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Here's a blurb from a CBSNews.com piece regarding the concentrations of glyphosate found in common American beers and wines:
"Assuming the greatest value [of glyphosate] reported, 51.4 ppb, is correct, a 125-pound adult would have to consume 308 gallons of wine per day, every day for life to reach the US Environmental Protection Agency's glyphosate exposure limit for humans. To put 308 gallons into context, that would be more than a bottle of wine every minute, for life, without sleeping."
The EPA's analysis refers to acute toxicity, ie what will kill you instantly, rather than the long term cancer causing effects of constant low doses.
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I abstain the night before long road rides, but don't mind a glass or two of very good red wine or sip on a nice bourbon or scotch. Moderation being the key. Will I have a beer or two after the Solvang Century? Well the start/finish IS In the parking lot of a brewery so what do you think?
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I abstain the night before long road rides, but don't mind a glass or two of very good red wine or sip on a nice bourbon or scotch. Moderation being the key. Will I have a beer or two after the Solvang Century? Well the start/finish IS In the parking lot of a brewery so what do you think?
Finished up a windy 87 miler a little earlier today and just had some JW Blue Label. More than a "sip."
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