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Old 11-01-11, 07:44 AM   #1
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benefits of running

Just curious as i like to run. Is there many benefits to cycling if someone runs on the side as well?
Would it be just helpful for the cardio aspect? not muscles?

What do you all recommend?
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Old 11-01-11, 08:51 AM   #2
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Running is great for cardio fitness and for bone density. beyond that it won't help you much on the bike, because the leg muscles are recruited in a very different way.
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Old 11-01-11, 09:12 AM   #3
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I trail run 2xs a week (along with some running drills). In the beginning running was tough for me. Been injured twice from running to fast and to hard. So it took sometime to really do things right & now I really enjoy running. Trust me I would rather be on a bike, but I found that changing things up has benefited me when it comes to cardio & even strengthening, especially for my cyclocross racing. I also run because its a nice change from being on the bike, especially in the winters months where I live.
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I see that you're in Ontario. I find that one benefit of running is that it's easier to do in the winter than cyclist. It is cold and salty here. BIking is possible, but when I want to get some exercise in the winter I'm more likely to run. It's just simpler. I bike when I want to get somewhere.
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Old 11-01-11, 01:36 PM   #5
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It works your leg muscles in different ways; can't hurt. And all exercise is good for your heart and cardio.
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I'm not a cyclist, yet. I joined this forum a few days ago to get some input and advice on equipment and how best to start. I am however a lifelong runner and have a true passion for the sport. There are many different philosophies on running form and technique but the most important thing is at any distance over a mile or so you really run with your core muscles. Your legs obviously keep you upright and propel you along but your hips, abs, glutes and back muscles is what makes you a runner. Again I don't know crap about cycling but I would think being a good quality runner would do nothing but help your cycling. Also running takes a lot of mental focus to maintain form and push back the pain and desire to stop. I would think that part would translate very well. Jooshy is right about going out too fast and hard. You guys are already very fit and could probably go out and do five or ten miles right out of the shoot. You have to ease into it to keep the injuries down.

Sorry to chime in with absolutely no cycling knowledge or experience but I really enjoy this forum and I do know a lot about running.
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I ran at a competitive level for 8 years and did not notice any benefits to cycling other than I was thin and had good cardio.
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I changed some things around in February this year. I'm now riding 50 miles easily, did a 100 this past summer on some ride in Wichita Falls! I've noticed that all through this, I still have some stomach and fat I need to loose.

I see plenty of skinny legged, fat stomached cyclists. I don't see too many fat runners! I am looking to loose my stomach / body fat.

I'm following the couch to 5K. A bit late for Thanksgiving (turkey trot) but I can always finish by walking!

So the core info is interesting. At the very least running will help you loose weight which will help with riding.
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So would you say that running, makes your loose fat faster then riding a bike long distances?
would i loose more fat running then biking?
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So would you say that running, makes your loose fat faster then riding a bike long distances?
would i loose more fat running then biking?
It depends on how fast and long you're running or riding. Faster/harder/longer burns more calories. Less impact bicycling generally means you'll have less downtime from injury especially if you are overweight. Of course running is a simple and excellent form of exercise.
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So would you say that running, makes your loose fat faster then riding a bike long distances?
would i loose more fat running then biking?
Varies with intensity and duration. You can ride longer than you can run because cycling is non weight-bearing.
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So would you say that running, makes your loose fat faster then riding a bike long distances?
would i loose more fat running then biking?
Only if you eat less. It's a lot easier to burn 2500 Cals on a bike than running.

You can't conclude that because most runners you see are thin that running makes you thin. It just means that the fatties gave up and went cycling instead.
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Old 11-02-11, 09:54 AM   #13
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Running is a nice alternative to cycling, especially in the winter. It's eaiser to get prepared for and a quicker workout.
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Running reminds me why I like cycling and hate running. I'll count that as a benefit
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It sure raised my pain tolerance. My LT numbers looked a bit better as well but that may have been a statistical anomaly.
I find it easier to run in winter and it gives me a mental break. Usually reminds me why I love cycling while trashing my feet.
Variety is a good thing but I doubt you can say definitively that it helps cycling.
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There is another alternative here and its hiking.

If you hate running, then try hiking. I don't think it will bang you up as much as running and even if you have extra weight, hiking will still be ok. The neat thing about hiking is that you experience elevation gain benefits and you can stop, take some fluids, nutrition, and enjoy the landscape. How many times have you actually used your digital camera on a bike ride or a run? Probably little or none.

Mine is day hiking so the back pack is minimal and the shoes are not hiking boots but rather trail shoes. They're like running shoes but the soles are thicker and with more gripping. I can actually run in them. I do carry my bike water bottles filled with the powdered mix, Cliff bars, even Endurolytes as well as snack food. I also carry my Garmin Edge 305 and change the settings to one-tenth of a mile and disengage the auto stop function.

There are two types who hike. Those who go for the aerobic exercise and those who just enjoy the outdoors and being away from the urban setting. Those who do mountain biking off-road will know what I'm talking about.

The hiking I like is at the local mountains and deserts. Here in California we're spoiled.
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Old 11-02-11, 11:58 AM   #17
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The real deal in winter is XC skiing - running on skis. Especially skate skiing. But you have to run on a prepared track, not poke along. I take spin class from a Cat 1 track racer who runs XC in winter and I was on the varsity Nordic team in college. It's wonderful training.

Ordinary running is great, too. I love to run but hardly do it anymore because I love to bike more. If you are only trying to get faster on the bike, biking is much better than running. But running is a heck of a lot better than doing nothing, and can be quicker to do than biking. As far as weight loss goes, for the time-crunched I think the nod has to go to running. One will have a higher HR running at the same RPE because more muscles are engaged than while cycling, which translates to a greater calorie burn per unit time. It's easy to loaf on the bike, but not so easy while running. It's also easy to eat on the bike, but not so easy when running. The qualifier is that that's per unit time, and if one has the time, it's easy to spend a lot more time per week riding than running.

For off-the-bike activities, again the nod to running. Better for hiking and climbing, tennis, basketball, etc. For Alpine skiing I don't know. Both are very good training for skiing. It's nice to be able to take run after run without resting during. Alpine skiing IME has a lot of anaerobic, so one has to have done a good bit of that to see the greatest benefit.
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I am a cyclist first but run as well. I find that there is no direct benefit but I can only assume that being fit and working the leggs heart lungs can only help....I luv to trail run.....only riding makes you a better rider.
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Only if you eat less. It's a lot easier to burn 2500 Cals on a bike than running.

You can't conclude that because most runners you see are thin that running makes you thin. It just means that the fatties gave up and went cycling instead.
Funny! Personally, I lost more weight from cycling than running because I can ride much much longer. I actually have to eat more just to keep from being too skinny while cycling.
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My favorite benefit: it's fun.

I like cycling too.

Unfortunately I like eating even more than these two activities, so despite the fact that I do both I'm still fat.
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Funny! Personally, I lost more weight from cycling than running because I can ride much much longer. I actually have to eat more just to keep from being too skinny while cycling.
Same here. My legs give out when running far in advance of any significant calorie burn.
Comparing them timewise I burn more when running but I just can't sustain running for anything long enough to beat cycling.
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Only if you eat less. It's a lot easier to burn 2500 Cals on a bike than running.

You can't conclude that because most runners you see are thin that running makes you thin. It just means that the fatties gave up and went cycling instead.


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I equate 4 miles of riding to one mile of running in terms of calories burnt. Riding 100 to 150 miles every weekend is not that difficult. But try the equivalent miles of 25 to 35 miles of running. That's like more than one marathon per weekend. Good luck with that.

Indeed, I was surprised to see the number of "fatties" the first time I rode with my riding club. Almost non existent in my running (marathon) club.

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I found an odd benefit yesterday. Hitting a patch of ice at full speed and crashing while running results in less injuries than the same crash on a bike.
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I found an odd benefit yesterday. Hitting a patch of ice at full speed and crashing while running results in less injuries than the same crash on a bike.
I don't think that's true in every case.
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The two are very different, but there are clear benefits to adding some running days into your workout schedule. The cardio from running will surely help your sprints on the bike for one. As mentioned before, your muscles are engaged differently on the bike vs. running, but you will lose weight quicker and with less overall workout time running vs. cycling. I got my bike to cross train on as I train for a marathon, but now I'm having a hard time running as often as I should because I just wanna cycle all the time... lol!

As a general guide, you can equate 20 miles of cycling (fast) to about 5 miles of running.
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