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Old 04-29-14, 04:01 AM
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Supplements/foods for joint health

I'd like to start this thread by saying that not everyone has stellar bio-mechanics. Wear and tear on cartilage is just going to be a fact of riding (or any sport) for people such as myself. Now lets get down to brass tacks.

I've pored over quite a few research papers on glucosamine and chondroitin. The results from all these papers are usually the same, 'inconclusive'. Now from what I remember from college, cartilage does not have active blood flow. It's slow growth is from the absorption of the materials it needs via diffusion. So this is what glucosamine & chondroitin attempt to do- circulate through the blood stream until the cartilage slowly picks it up and incorporates it. European studies have found that glucosamine sulfate (not hydrochloride) is the only effective type, and that it actually takes up to 24 weeks (half a year) to see results To Glucosamine or Not Glucosamine?

So has anyone had any luck with certain supplements or foods in improving joint health? One supplement, which I cannot remember the name of at the moment, did have an almost immediate positive effect on my joints. But it turns out that the mechanism of action was similar to that of aspirin. Basically it was just pain reducer.
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Old 04-29-14, 07:57 AM
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I'd like to start this thread by saying that not everyone has stellar bio-mechanics. Wear and tear on cartilage is just going to be a fact of riding (or any sport) for people such as myself. Now lets get down to brass tacks.

I've pored over quite a few research papers on glucosamine and chondroitin. The results from all these papers are usually the same, 'inconclusive'. Now from what I remember from college, cartilage does not have active blood flow. It's slow growth is from the absorption of the materials it needs via diffusion. So this is what glucosamine & chondroitin attempt to do- circulate through the blood stream until the cartilage slowly picks it up and incorporates it. European studies have found that glucosamine sulfate (not hydrochloride) is the only effective type, and that it actually takes up to 24 weeks (half a year) to see results To Glucosamine or Not Glucosamine?

So has anyone had any luck with certain supplements or foods in improving joint health? One supplement, which I cannot remember the name of at the moment, did have an almost immediate positive effect on my joints. But it turns out that the mechanism of action was similar to that of aspirin. Basically it was just pain reducer.
Glucosamine helped a bit for my knee issues. If it is chronic see an ortho, they have injectible hyaluronic acid, euflexxa or synvisc. It lubricates the knee joint and studies suggested it may stimulate cartilage regrowth, according to a local ortho. They give horses oral hyaluronic acid, don't know of any studies supporting human oral use.

Work on your bio-mechanics, look into glute strength. If knees are the problem you need to squat properly. search "starting strength" for proper form.

If climbing hurts your knees get a lower gear in your cassette. Ligaments and cartilage take longer to strengthen than muscles do, so give it time. Just because you can pound up the hill in 39-19 at low cadence with your muscles does not mean your cartilage is ready for it.
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Old 04-29-14, 09:46 AM
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I noticed some effects from taking MSM and a glucoasmine/chondroiton combo. It could have been placebo, but my knees hurt less and I did fine.

I also agree with bikebrake, you may just need to find easier gears to push for a while.
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I use glucosamine sulfate and MSM. I think they work.
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Originally Posted by DavidPT40 View Post
... Wear and tear on cartilage is just going to be a fact of riding ...
That may be common -- but not inevitable or even probable...

While you may well have cartilage damage, that condition is often diagnosed as arthritis -- and ortho's love to give periodic injections for it (for them it is simple, easy, reliable income). But, from what i have heard, it does help. Or, it could be torn cartilage -- and that has an entirely different treatment.

Or, perhaps it could be from simply improper fit or pedaling technique putting strain where there shouldn't be strain...

But, perhaps more importantly, why do you think you have cartilage damage? Have you had it checked by an ortho?
... If that is not your problem then all the Glucosamine in the world will not help...
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