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Old 10-17-14, 08:21 AM
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Indoor Trainer w/ power meter

I'd like to find a decent quality stationary upright bike with a power meter that reads in watts (with reasonable accuracy), can be adjusted to a reasonable riding position, can accept real bicycle saddles and pedals, something designed to appeal to a real cyclist, not an armchair bound wannabe.

Needs to be easily reconfigured for different riders.

Recommendations, anyone?
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Originally Posted by no sweat View Post
I'd like to find a decent quality stationary upright bike with a power meter that reads in watts (with reasonable accuracy), can be adjusted to a reasonable riding position, can accept real bicycle saddles and pedals, something designed to appeal to a real cyclist, not an armchair bound wannabe.

Needs to be easily reconfigured for different riders.

Recommendations, anyone?
Dunno what your price range is, but I just bought a Cycleops 300 and it's great. I specifically wanted a drop-bar riding position rather than a time-trial setup (although it would be even better if I could change the bar angle), and like the fact that it freewheels like a real bike.

Looking at the Cycleops site to link you I noticed they just rebranded everything, but the Phantom 3 Indoor Cycle Phantom 3 appears to be exactly the same thing with a new paint job and a little more expensive. (I bought mine from REI as I could buy it with local pickup and avoid shipping fees, and they still list the 300: CycleOps 300 Pro Indoor Cycle at the price I paid.)
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Old 10-17-14, 12:05 PM
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My GF has a Cycleops 400 Pro. I think best price was at Competitive Cyclist. I feel bad. We never use it
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Old 10-17-14, 02:12 PM
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Why not Wahoo KICKR and use your regular bike with it?
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Old 10-17-14, 02:53 PM
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Old 10-18-14, 07:55 AM
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Looks feasible to get a Cycleops used w/o breaking the bank. Investigating.

The other thing that was recommended to me off line was a Concept 2 rowing machine. In the words of an endurance athlete friend, "10 reps of 2 minute intervals on this thing and you'll be talking to God". The immediately interesting thing about the C2 is that when I look em up used, they all have evidence of heavy use (and the reviews on line are amazing for any type of product). The upside is a whole body (or at least "more body") work out, storability. Downside is that I don't get cycling specific power information. I am enough of a numbers and performance weenie that I would like the power numbers and (more important here) would find the quantitative feedback motivating. The newest C2s appear to have a pretty decent monitor which might slake my number weenie thirst, but this probably means buying new.
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Old 10-18-14, 05:44 PM
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I've become intrigued with the cross training possibilities and ordered a C2 rowing machine. We'll see how this goes.
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Old 10-19-14, 04:56 PM
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For the cost of the C2, you could have invested in a power meter...but cross-training can be fun
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Old 10-21-14, 04:51 AM
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For the cost of the C2, you could have invested in a power meter...but cross-training can be fun
... different strokes, lol. OT, but I'm very skeptical of the value of on-road power in my local environment. It's all hills. The "Zone 2 recovery ride" is a *completely* theoretical concept here, unless you are going to get off and walk up the hill. An instrumented indoor cycle on the other hand, would be a good thing and the immediate choice was between something Wattbike-ish and the C2.

The C2 has a good power meter. Granted that it won't be the same power as cycling (rowing is inherently less efficient), but it generates hard numbers that I can use to self evaluate. My wife's interest in the C2, my interest in something new and cross-training compatible with cycling, some really strong recommendations on the C2 from friends were some factors considered. A power meter equipped bike on a turbo trainer wasn't considered for several reasons.
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Old 10-22-14, 05:18 PM
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You will love and hate your C2. The model C can be upgraded to the new performance monitors if you can find a used one at a good price since the monitors are fairly expensive.

2000 meter sprint is what will have you not only talking to God but probably seeing him as well.
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I got a bit carried away and bought a new Model D with the (just released) PM 5 monitor. It's certainly possible to get into a C2 machine for a lot less.

It's a great piece of kit. Superior build quality. Smooth, relatively quiet in operation. Monitor is good. The exercise is... different. This is a serious HTFU sort of exercise and I have a bunch of "suddenly utilized" muscles talking to me this morning. Fingers, palms, shoulders(!!), back. And I'm not even building any real power on it yet. Hoping my impatience (weather is really miserable right now and I'm feeling the lack of riding) doesn't goad me into an injury. I held 150 Watts for ten minutes last night, limited by my ability to hold decent form in this exercise, and that was probably pushing it.
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Form is crucial. If your form falls apart you not only will lose a lot of power but open yourself up to injury. Make sure you watch the videos at Concept 2 for the proper rowing form and don't set the damper too high.

A "resistance" of 100-130 is where you want to set the damper for most workouts.
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Old 10-25-14, 06:08 PM
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About day five on the "erg". I'm getting it figured out. My shoulders already bigger & more defined. Wife likes the erg too (extra win).

Out on the road bike today. 38 miles @ tempo. Either it was just a really good day or cross training helps (I've been extremely cycling specific and fairly well plateaued lately). It's hard to believe that a change in training could be effective so quickly, so maybe just a good day. I was a solid 1 mph faster (riding solo) than I have been at an avg HR 5 bpm lower.
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