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Old 05-29-24, 01:45 PM
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Based on my handle bar set up, what would be the best way to mount a computer? I am thinking a top cap mount, but not sure if that is too far down to take a peek at when in aero position. Is there enough room to connect an out front mount where the handle bars connect with the stem?

More than likely I am taking those customized bars at the top of the tribars off unless that is the best option to mount the computer. I actually think the previous owner had a storage pouch mounted there.

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Any advice on training for the swim?
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Any advice on training for the swim?
I am in the same boat as you. LOL. Swimming is tough. Once I get a little more acclimated to swimming, I also definitely will need some type of formal training plan.

Does anyone have any recommendations for a source for an Iron Man training plan? I have looked at a couple, but they are all overkill with detail. I am looking for a simple calendar type plan. "Day 1: Swim 10 x 25m at 50% effort, with 1 minute rest intervals.....Day 2: Bike: 60 minutes at XX mph"......something that is easy and simple to follow.

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One thing I cannnot do right now is put my head down in the water to exhale during the freestyle swim. I tried it a couple of times and each time I felt like I was just making my breathing worse. So right now I am full face out of water all of the time.
Are you swimming with goggles? I know it sounds like it’s not relative, but swimming with goggles makes the breathing process easier. When I taught swim lessons to kids, I’d have them hold onto the edge/wall while kicking. Base on whichever side they wanted to breathe on, they would ‘stroke’ that arm, and turn their head to breathe. Obviously you exhale when your face is facing the bottom. To know when to turn your head to inhale…when your hand enters the water in front of you…that’s when you turn your head to inhale. As your other arm comes forward on recovery after the stroke…act as if that arm is pushing your face back into the water.

And speaking of swimming with/without goggles. In spite of what I just said above…you should practice to get efficient swimming without goggles. Because…it is not uncommon for your goggles to get knocked off in the scum of the swim start, or at turns on the swim course. I have seen people completely lose their goggles midway through the swim. Being able to swim efficiently without them…as opposed to swimming the remainder of the swim with your head up…could save you time if they are lost.

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Are you swimming with goggles? I know it sounds like it’s not relative, but swimming with goggles makes the breathing process easier. When I taught swim lessons to kids, I’d have them hold onto the edge/wall while kicking. Base on whichever side they wanted to breathe on, they would ‘stroke’ that arm, and turn their head to breathe. Obviously you exhale when your face is facing the bottom. To know when to turn your head to inhale…when your hand enters the water in front of you…that’s when you turn your head to inhale. As your other arm comes forward on recovery after the stroke…act as if that arm is pushing your face back into the water.

And speaking of swimming with/without goggles. In spite of what I just said above…you should practice to get efficient swimming without goggles. Because…it is not uncommon for your goggles to get knocked off in the scum of the swim start, or at turns on the swim course. I have seen people completely lose their goggles midway through the swim. Being able to swim efficiently without them…as opposed to swimming the remainder of the swim with your head up…could save you time if they are lost.

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I am using goggles. I went for another swim session last night. Much easier than my first one. I concentrated more on finding a rhythm rather than speed. I am starting to get the breathing routine down. I almost had face in the water on exhale down. I was exhaling under water but for whatever reason (mental thing probably), my eyes were always above the water line, but my mouth was below water on the exhale. I was pretty happy though about last nights swim.
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I ended up buying these pedals. They came in yesterday. I was kind of surprised about the size of them. I guess it is my inexperience in the bike world. When I compared them to the pedals on the bike I recently purchased, they were nearly half the size.
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Originally Posted by TXRunner78
I concentrated more on finding a rhythm rather than speed. I am starting to get the breathing routine down.
With regard to swim training, at this stage I would advise you to just concentrate on learning the mechanics of swimming, and not worry about any sort of speed work right now. Just swim long slow distance working on getting your stroke efficient. Down the road, once you’ve got all the mechanics working correctly, then you can begin to concentrate more on speed work. If you go straight into doing speed/interval workouts before you have the mechanics worked out, you’ll likely end up just muscling through the swim of your tri, with a bad stroke and body position, and expend a lot more energy to get through it than you would by swimming slower but efficiently. And of course that energy expenditure will show itself in the bike and run.

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With regard to swim training, at this stage I would advise you to just concentrate on learning the mechanics of swimming, and not worry about any sort of speed work right now. Just swim long slow distance working on getting your stroke efficient. Down the road, once you’ve got all the mechanics working correctly, then you can begin to concentrate more on speed work. If you go straight into doing speed/interval workouts before you have the mechanics worked out, you’ll likely end up just muscling through the swim of your tri, with a bad stroke and body position, and expend a lot more energy to get through it than you would by swimming slower but efficiently. And of course that energy expenditure will show itself in the bike and run.

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I have to agree. They just recently opened the community pool up for the summer in my neighborhood. I went there on Monday and ran into another lady that swims laps. We swam in lanes right next to each other. We were never competing per se, but in a side-by-side comparison, she was almost as fast as me in 50 meters but had a far more relaxed pace.

Despite how much improvement I've seen in my swim in the last two years, it's eye opening to see how much more improvement I could make.
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Got out for my first ride on Saturday and again today. Digging riding the bike. Definitely need to switch out the grip tape on my bars. My hands were sweating so much and kept slipping. I also need to get fitted for a new seat and placement. My current seat was fine for the rides I did this weekend, but I could tell it would definitely be a problem if I was going a really long distance. I also need to get better with just controlling the bike. Obviously that will come with more time on the bike.
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Originally Posted by TXRunner78
I am in the same boat as you. LOL. Swimming is tough. Once I get a little more acclimated to swimming, I also definitely will need some type of formal training plan.

Does anyone have any recommendations for a source for an Iron Man training plan? I have looked at a couple, but they are all overkill with detail. I am looking for a simple calendar type plan. "Day 1: Swim 10 x 25m at 50% effort, with 1 minute rest intervals.....Day 2: Bike: 60 minutes at XX mph"......something that is easy and simple to follow.
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Originally Posted by TXRunner78
Got out for my first ride on Saturday and again today. Digging riding the bike. Definitely need to switch out the grip tape on my bars. My hands were sweating so much and kept slipping. I also need to get fitted for a new seat and placement. My current seat was fine for the rides I did this weekend, but I could tell it would definitely be a problem if I was going a really long distance. I also need to get better with just controlling the bike. Obviously that will come with more time on the bike.
The control will just come with time, as you already know. I would always recommend replacing the tape any time you buy a new-to-you bike. But also, it's totally personal preference but I suggest always riding with gloves. First, they will help with absorbing the moisture. Second, you can simply rinse them out after each ride, and that helps keep the tape from becoming saturated with sweat and growing some funk. Lastly, and at least to me, most importantly, it is a layer of protection for when (not if) you go down. A lot of injuries you can't prevent, but for minor crashes, why get road rash on your hands when it's easily avoidable?
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The control will just come with time, as you already know. I would always recommend replacing the tape any time you buy a new-to-you bike. But also, it's totally personal preference but I suggest always riding with gloves. First, they will help with absorbing the moisture. Second, you can simply rinse them out after each ride, and that helps keep the tape from becoming saturated with sweat and growing some funk. Lastly, and at least to me, most importantly, it is a layer of protection for when (not if) you go down. A lot of injuries you can't prevent, but for minor crashes, why get road rash on your hands when it's easily avoidable?
I asked my buddy about gloves today. Any suggestions on brand and type?
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I asked my buddy about gloves today. Any suggestions on brand and type?
I really just buy cheap ones off Amazon. I tend to have 3-4 pair at any given time and only expect them to last 4-6 months. Consider them a consumable item, buy the cheapest ones that fit and throw them away as they wear out.
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I really just buy cheap ones off Amazon. I tend to have 3-4 pair at any given time and only expect them to last 4-6 months. Consider them a consumable item, buy the cheapest ones that fit and throw them away as they wear out.
Thanks. I ordered a pair last night that have the gel pads in the palm. I did notice that when riding, my hands started to hurt a little and fall asleep. I am still getting comfortable with the aerobars, so I was more reliant on the road bars.
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I think it’s very important to wear gloves while riding for more than one reason. They do provide a bit of padding and vibration abatement. Sometimes, changing a flat on the road requires “mano y mano” use of your hands, and gloved is a little easier. And, as Jen pointed out…if/when you go down…the palms of your hands are the first thing to hit the ground. Lastly, on those occasions you inadvertently roll through broken glass, it’s often not that initial contact that causes a puncture. But a shard of glass sticking to the tire and getting pushed through the rubber on subsequent rotations that punctures. So, when you see that glass you can sweep the tires with your gloved hand to hopefully get the glass off the tire before it punctures. Obviously doing it without gloves the glass will shred your hand.

BTW, most of the ‘cycling’ gloves I have are actually weight lifting gloves. They’re essentially the same thing, and are usually a few dollars cheaper in the sporting goods section at department stores. — Dan

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Speaking of tire puncture, what do you guys carry on your bike for long rides? Obviously it's probably not a big issue for my upcoming sprint, but if I continue on with the IM training, I want to start accumulating items/necessities that need to be carried on bike.
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You’ll want something to repair flats on the road (non-race). It will happen to you if it hasn’t already. I carry one spare tube, and two CO₂ cartridges for on the road repairs. But, I’m a bit paranoid and also carry a hand pump, and a few “Scabs” patches for the possibility of second flat backup. In a sprint tri…I never carry ‘anything’ for flat repair — no tube, no pump, no CO₂, no patches. It’s such a short race that for all intents and purposes, even if you’re quick at it, the time it takes to repair a flat puts you out of contention for anything (A good race management team will have a sag wagon to pick you and your bike up.). In longer races it’s a different story. And please…be a good cyclist and don’t leave anything behind after you’ve repaired a flat on the road. — Dan
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Originally Posted by TXRunner78
Got out for my first ride on Saturday and again today. Digging riding the bike. Definitely need to switch out the grip tape on my bars. My hands were sweating so much and kept slipping. I also need to get fitted for a new seat and placement. My current seat was fine for the rides I did this weekend, but I could tell it would definitely be a problem if I was going a really long distance. I also need to get better with just controlling the bike. Obviously that will come with more time on the bike.
I use Cinelli tape. Cheap and really good. You can apply it yourself. Look up some videos on YouTube (GCN and David Arthur. In fact David Arthur has the best "how to" videos out, in my opinion.) As for a saddle (not "seat"), that's probably an area where you don't want to skimp. I bought a Selle SMP Dynamic saddle on eBay for about $70 used. That's a great deal, because they are about $270 new. Very unique design and a well appreciated brand. Check out the Selle SMP website for fitting instructions. Otherwise, there's a ton of TT specific saddles out there.
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Just by looking at the Selle SMP Dynamic I can tell it’s way more comfortable than my saddle. I think the one that is on it now is one of the Selle saddles you can get at Walmart. Lol
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Chatting with my buddy at work about our bikes. He is about to take his bike in for a tune up also. We got into talking about getting fit also. What would be an average pricing for a tune up and and also a fitting? I am seeing tune up packages in the $120 to $400 range. Also, bike fitting packages in the $300-$350 range. That is at one of our LBS. I haven't shopped others in the driving area.
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Originally Posted by TXRunner78
Chatting with my buddy at work about our bikes. He is about to take his bike in for a tune up also. We got into talking about getting fit also. What would be an average pricing for a tune up and and also a fitting? I am seeing tune up packages in the $120 to $400 range. Also, bike fitting packages in the $300-$350 range. That is at one of our LBS. I haven't shopped others in the driving area.
My fit was $150. A tune up will depend on the condition of the bike. $100-$200 range, typically.
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My fit was $150. A tune up will depend on the condition of the bike. $100-$200 range, typically.
Thanks. I thought the $300 seemed a little pricy. Now the shop that has this prices uses all sorts of computers and tech. Yea, I am not there. Just make my seat comfy for me. LOL.
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Anyone ever try the Prologo Dimension saddle? I picked one up on a steal of a price. Going to throw it on my bike and see how it works. At least it will be better than what I have now and can use for the sprint.
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Anyone ever try the Prologo Dimension saddle? I picked one up on a steal of a price. Going to throw it on my bike and see how it works. At least it will be better than what I have now and can use for the sprint.
No, but they look really nice. Is it a dedicated TT saddle?
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I am not certain if it is a true TT saddle. Here is the description from the Prolog site. The saddle is listed under the "road" section. They do have some Dimension models listed under the TT section.

The name Dimension contains the importance of the project itself: to create an innovative product in terms of size, design and ergonomic shape suitable for all disciplines and perfect for men and women. Dimension is comfort, performance and lightness. The combination of a short nose (35mm less than a traditional saddle) and the PAS system ensures blood flow and pressure relief, guaranteeing comfort even in an aerodynamic position or during the maximum pushing phase. The wider seating area (width 143mm) allows a better distribution of body weight. The Dimension saddle has been tested and developed in collaboration with the best international professional teams to ensure a saddle suitable for all users.
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