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'06 Cervelo Dual vs '05 Cervelo P3

Old 08-15-06, 11:30 AM
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'06 Cervelo Dual vs '05 Cervelo P3

I can get the Dual for $2K CAD or the P3 for $2.6K CAD. Both are brand new.

Assuming a good fit with both would I be foolish to not shell out the extra $600 for the P3?

I'm looking to move from a road bike to a dedicated Tri bike and both of these are on sale right now at my LBS.
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Old 08-15-06, 12:25 PM
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Doesn't seem that great of a deal on a new ('06) Dual. The Dura-Ace model is listed as $1900 on Cervelo's own site. But I just remember seeing where you were posting from. I don't know the conversion of Canadian/USD. So forget that. ANYWAY.

I was posed with this same question myself about a month ago. I ended up purchasing an '05 P2-SL for around $1900 shipped. I could have gotten a '05 P3 for $2300 shipped. I ended up not shelling out the extra $400 because the guy who was going to sell me the P3 told me not to pass up the deal on the P2. He told me the extra $400 wasn't worth the weight or aero differences.

I originally had the intention of spending $1700-$1900 on a '06 Dual. I liked the Dual because it had full Ultegra, or Full Dura-Ace for under $2K. This is really hard to come by, especially with an aero seat post and aero front setup. But the opportunity came up for me to spend the same amount on better bike for the same amount.

Over the past few months of researching and reading about different bike models, I have come to the same conclusion that I have on shoes. Most companies have three tiers of price/quality. The bottom is not really that great but will get you by. The middle level is better than the bottom and not that far away from the top. The difference from the middle to the top in terms of quality is not that great, but the price difference is. I would like to cite Asics Gel 1110 ($60)-2110 ($75)-and Kayano ($110) shoes as an example. In this case Cervelo has Dual - P2 - P3.

I would say go with the Dual and save the money that you would have spent extra on that P3 and put it towards a set of nicer wheels when you get the opportunity. Good luck.
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Old 08-15-06, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by rplong
Doesn't seem that great of a deal on a new ('06) Dual. The Dura-Ace model is listed as $1900 on Cervelo's own site. But I just remember seeing where you were posting from. I don't know the conversion of Canadian/USD. So forget that. ANYWAY.
In USD it would be about $1780 for the Dual w/ full Dura Ace.

I've read alot of good things about the Dual and like that it is full Dura Ace. I believe the P3 at the LBS is Ultegra.
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IMO the P3 is a much better deal. Much more aero and lighter fame. Ultegra weights just a little bit more, but is more durable. I bet a P3 is lighter with Ultegra than a Dual with Dura ace anyway. I think that $400 will give you a bike you could be happy riding for 4 or 5 years. As with Dual you will want a new bike in 1 or 2. IMO
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get the Dual and spend the additional money on better wheels. Better wheels will make a bigger difference in the speed of the bike than the difference in those 2 frames.
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Go with the P3. I have an 05 Dual 10, which I bought for a lot less, but if the difference was that close, I'd have gone up two steps.

Full Dura Ace is a misnomer, since the only upgrade is the rear derailer. The bar ends are all DA, as were the Front derailers when I bought mine. The cranks are FSA, the brakes are house brand, so no real upgrade to be had there.



Much better bike bling, I think the '06 is a tad ugly as well.
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Thanks for the feedback. I'm going to check out the fit on the P3 and go that way if I can.

There is only one P3 left and it is a 55cm frame. I'm 6' .5" with an 84.5cm inseam (book to crotch method) so it will most likely turn out to be too small.

The Dual I can get in any size.

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Originally Posted by Grymhawk
Thanks for the feedback. I'm going to check out the fit on the P3 and go that way if I can.

There is only one P3 left and it is a 55cm frame. I'm 6' .5" with an 84.5cm inseam (book to crotch method) so it will most likely turn out to be too small.

The Dual I can get in any size.
Depends on how agressive a position you can or want to ride...

I'm 6'1", inseam of 86cm (ride a 56-57cm rode bikes) and recently bought a 52cm P3 alum 700c frame and will ride 175mm cranks (would prefer 177.5mm)

I too was sceptical of riding such a small frame, but was easily convinced when I borrowed a friends P3 in that size (he is nearly identical in dimensions as I am) and went for a quick 60km training ride. With a forward seat position and long Vision tech bars it was a bit twitchy but fast! Felt good from the get go.
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Old 08-17-06, 10:25 AM
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As they say, the 55cm Cervelo P3 fit me like a glove! I went through a pro fitting before buying it and it was dead on within a couple of mm fit wise. How uncanny, they had one left in my exact size!

I snagged it up. $2599 CAD for a new '05 P3 with 3 years of service included seems like a great deal to me... I think in USD that would be around $2325 right now.

Can't wait to get it tomorrow! :-D
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